• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

Credible threats of suicide will be reported to the police along with identifying user information at our disposal, in addition to referring the user to suicide helpline resources such as 1-800-SUICIDE or 1-800-273-TALK.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 2/8/18)
See more
See less

Saddles, Scammers and PayPal

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Saddles, Scammers and PayPal

    I just got a scammer reply to an ad I have for a saddle for sale. It's pretty obviously a scammer (he's "at sea" and therefore will have an agent pick up the saddle. ). Here's the thing - he's offering to pay via PayPal instead of the usual money order, which should be at least somewhat safer. Has anyone seen this before...? I'm curious to know how the rest of the scam goes...
    "Adulthood? You're playing with ponies. That is, like, every 9 year old girl's dream. Adulthood?? You're rocking the HELL out of grade 6, girl."

  • #2
    Hummm. I'm curious too. I once placed an ad in a local paper for a nice, high end Crosby saddle. The type of saddle ads usually in this rag were for cheapo westerns, and crummy no-brands.

    So, this foreign guy calls. He said he wanted to buy my "saddles", the western one, too. I didn't have a western saddle for sale. Anyway, I told him I'd meet him half way between our two towns, on the weekend - I was busy all week at work. No, he wanted to come to my house, he really insisted. All the alarm bells rang - he said he wanted to send the "saddles" to cousins in South America. Would bring cash, of course! Yeah, right.

    Anyway, I got him off the phone by saying I would meet him in ________ on Saturday if he was still interested. Needless to say, he never called back - GOOD!

    Watch out, maybe your scammer's "agent" just wants to find out where you live. Ya never know.

    Comment


    • #3
      Someone on here got scammed by a "legit" buyer on e-Bay. She got her money, but the buyer lodged all kinds of complaints with e-Bay and ended up getting the seller to refund half of the money.

      Then a couple of weeks later, the buyer had that same saddle listed, at the same price the original seller (our COTHer) had sold it for. Complaints by the COTHer to e-Bay were falling on deaf ears.

      Comment


      • #4
        Ah, I actually just sent an email today to a craigslist seller asking if he would be willing to ship a saddle to me AFTER, of course, I paid in full for the saddle AND shipping via paypal. He's in Texas, I'm in Ohio so me going to pick up the saddle isn't really an option. It's an old antique KY Rollback saddle with a really low price tag in great condition, something you just don't find everyday. I reassured him in the email I wasn't a scammer but I'm only half-optomistic the seller will believe me. Actually, after reading this thread I won't be holding my breath on a return email.

        *sobs*

        We aren't all scammers, some of us really want to buy the item! But I totally understand where the suspicion comes from! I really like that saddle too...

        Comment


        • #5
          Originally posted by saddlebum122 View Post
          Ah, I actually just sent an email today to a craigslist seller asking if he would be willing to ship a saddle to me AFTER, of course, I paid in full for the saddle AND shipping via paypal. He's in Texas, I'm in Ohio so me going to pick up the saddle isn't really an option. It's an old antique KY Rollback saddle with a really low price tag in great condition, something you just don't find everyday. I reassured him in the email I wasn't a scammer but I'm only half-optomistic the seller will believe me. Actually, after reading this thread I won't be holding my breath on a return email.

          *sobs*

          We aren't all scammers, some of us really want to buy the item! But I totally understand where the suspicion comes from! I really like that saddle too...
          Offer to send him a U.S. Postal Money order. The seller can take it to his local post office and cash it.

          Happy Trails~
          Joyce

          Comment


          • #6
            Never thought of that! Thanks!

            I haven't heard back from him, I'll have to see if the ad is still even up. It was a really good deal for someone that likes those type of saddles, a true bargain. Sadly for me someone else local might have snatched it up.

            Comment


            • #7
              I recently sold a saddle and bought a saddle (one out, one in), and I was shocked at how bad the scammers were.

              They used form letters where they just added what they thought were the appropriate words for the spot (saddle, english, etc).

              I asked them to send their money order (always for MORE than the amount, of course) made out to the internet fraud division of the US Goverment at their address. Several of them did. Don't know if it helps, but it made me feel better.

              Comment

              Working...
              X