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  • #81
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mav226:
    I think they are just painful hats, period. Everyone I know thinks theirs is painful.

    Is there anyone out here w/ a custom Patey that doesn't hurt? Tell us if so!

    If they've been scamming us this whole time, boy do I know a lot of people who are going to be ticked off. It does make sense though that it would be numbered/labeled. My chaps and boots are <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I bought a Patey... directly FROM Patey, in England. Even with the cost of the flight and hotel, it was cheaper to go direct, plus I was fitted by the guy who actually makes the helmet (and they keep that on file in case I ever need repairs or want another one etc.) They do actually make them from scratch if you go there directly - I was there for several days and watched some of the process, with the layering of materials around the form and so forth. Very interesting

    The Pateys you can purchase (or used to be able to purchase) from Royal Crowne are semi-custom. Meaning they order the closest stock size and then heat them up to allow them to fit your particular head. Similar, but not exactly the same process.

    Mine fits like a glove and has never hurt at all - which is the reason I bought it, after trying just about every single stock helmet out there and feeling like I would get a migraine from wearing them for more than five minutes. Guess I have a non-standard head.
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      #82
      <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lucassb:
      I bought a Patey... directly FROM Patey, in England. Even with the cost of the flight and hotel, it was cheaper to go direct, plus I was fitted by the guy who actually makes the helmet (and they keep that on file in case I ever need repairs or want another one etc.) They do actually make them from scratch if you go there directly - I was there for several days and watched some of the process, with the layering of materials around the form and so forth. Very interesting

      The Pateys you can purchase (or used to be able to purchase) from Royal Crowne are semi-custom. Meaning they order the closest stock size and then heat them up to allow them to fit your particular head. Similar, but not exactly the same process.

      Mine fits like a glove and has never hurt at all - which is the reason I bought it, after trying just about every single stock helmet out there and feeling like I would get a migraine from wearing them for more than five minutes. Guess I have a non-standard head. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

      First off, all, the company is Regal Crowne. Everyone should remember that and stop purchasing anything from these people. They sell jackets and boots as well as the Pateys and are clearly not a reputable firm.

      Now, IF Regal Crowne had said that these were 'semi-custom', then yes, I could see the deal with the not-so-good fit. But I was told exactly how the things are made by Margi years ago when I got measured the first time and I vowed that one day I would have one.

      When I got measured in FL, I was told again that they were CUSTOM made and that mine would take three months to make. While I was sitting there waiting, for him to complete my order, I did see a hat hanging there with these felt pieces stuck in them because clearly the hat was being steamed to fit a buyer. That might be fine for that person to have a semi-custom hat. I want and paid for a CUSTOM hat.

      I signed an agreement with them that says, "No refunds on CUSTOM orders." In doing that they put in writing that they are selling a custom item.

      For this poster above to say such wonderful things about the helmet, it is clear to me that EVERYONE WHO HAS COMPLAINED ABOUT THE FIT OF THE PATEY HAS CLEARLY NOT GOTTEN A CUSTOM HELMET yet they paid for such.

      I called my bank. No refunds on electronic transactions that took place over 90 days ago. Interesting that Tomasso waits for 7 months to deliver 'my' hat so that I have no recourse w/the bank.

      Tomorrow, I speak w/that managing director and if he can't help me, I'm off to my attorney.

      "If you have the time, spend it. If you have a hand, lend it. If you have the money, give it. If you have a heart, share it." by me

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        #83
        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lucassb:

        The Pateys you can purchase (or used to be able to purchase) from Royal Crowne are semi-custom. Meaning they order the closest stock size and then heat them up to allow them to fit your particular head. Similar, but not exactly the same process.

        <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

        Nope, not true. When I spoke w/a representative at Patey this a.m., he had CUSTOM orders in from Regal Crowne. He knew Margi by name. He said they have had many complaints from people about Regal Crowne.

        So, Regal Crowne is getting some extra money from people for these custom helmets and most likely living off of it and passing off hats that are probably given to them by Patey to sell as 'off-the-rack' so they can make an extra buck.

        Regal Crowne is misrepresenting the company and we are paying for it.

        "If you have the time, spend it. If you have a hand, lend it. If you have the money, give it. If you have a heart, share it." by me

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        • #84
          If they (RC) are an authorized dealer, perhaps Patey will help you? It seems odd that if they have had numerous complaints, they wouldn't consider revoking the license and perhaps finding another dealer.

          I am so sorry that you have had such a bad experience. Before I bought mine, I did quite a lot of investigation and heard so many complaints (not just about service but also about fit) that I decided to go direct. I can tell you that the Patey shop in England (a short train ride from London now that they have moved) is a pretty interesting little place to visit, and I only had to wait about 3 1/2 wks to get my helmet, which I love. I was also able to get it exactly the velvet I wanted, which was a very dark charcoal grey, because I wanted something a little different that still looked traditional. There was no extra charge for that, and I have been really pleased with the whole experience.
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          • #85
            If I were Patey, I would not be letting Regal Crown sell my hats anymore...... the fact that people are purchasing "custom" hats that give them migraines is not a good advertisement for the company's extremely expensive product.
            The witchy witch witch of south central NC.

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            • #86
              Just for fun, I shot off an e-mail to Regal Crowne when I read this last week. "If I wanted to purchase a custom Patey....how long would it take". Very innocuous.

              Guess what, no response.

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                #87
                <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by justthemom:
                Just for fun, I shot off an e-mail to Regal Crowne when I read this last week. "If I wanted to purchase a custom Patey....how long would it take". Very innocuous.

                Guess what, no response. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                I'll be shocked if you even get a response. They never responded to my email months ago.

                "If you have the time, spend it. If you have a hand, lend it. If you have the money, give it. If you have a heart, share it." by me

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                • #88
                  Have you sent Patey a printout of this thread? I think they might be interrested to know that their name is being tarnished so badly by one company.

                  Feeling stupid now that I just assumed all Patey's were suppossed to hurt. Oh well, at least it looks fabulous

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                    #89
                    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mav226:
                    Have you sent Patey a printout of this thread? I think they might be interrested to know that their name is being tarnished so badly by one company.

                    Feeling stupid now that I just assumed all Patey's were suppossed to hurt. Oh well, at least it looks fabulous <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                    No, I haven't, but I will. After I speak w/Patey's managing director, I am going to tell him that I am going to send him a faxed copy of this thread. I think it is important for them to know how Regal Crowne is smearing their good name.

                    Patey has been in business for over 200 years. There is no way they could stay in business w/the kind of service and product that Regal Crowne is putting out on the street.

                    "If you have the time, spend it. If you have a hand, lend it. If you have the money, give it. If you have a heart, share it." by me

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                    • #90
                      Sorry to hear you are having such problems Anyplace...

                      I guess I'm confused as to how you thought your Patey was going to be completely CUSTOM...I have never even heard of that option being offered by Regal Crowne. Margi always tells you the helmets are handmade and they will customize them to fit your head. I think they make that perfectly clear when you purchase the hat. But perhaps not...

                      Personally, I never would have left the trailer if I wasn't satisfied with what I had been given.

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                        #91
                        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by hjchik:
                        Sorry to hear you are having such problems Anyplace...

                        I guess I'm confused as to how you thought your Patey was going to be completely CUSTOM...I have never even heard of that option being offered by Regal Crowne. Margi always tells you the helmets are handmade and they will customize them to fit your head. I think they make that perfectly clear when you purchase the hat. But perhaps not...

                        Personally, I never would have left the trailer if I wasn't satisfied with what I had been given. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                        Well, it is quite simple...when I looked into the hat, they told me how the hats were custom made for you, per the information I posted above. They also refer to the item as 'custom' on the order form. They also charge a separate price for the customizing of the hat vs. buying one as is. It is stated on their price sheet.

                        The Patey employee who I spoke with also explained to me how the hats were made and confirmed that they do indeed make them that way for the Regal Crowne customers and mentioned having custom orders in for Regal Crowne customers as we spoke.

                        He checked his records for three months back to see if a custom order was submitted to them under my name by Regal Crowne. Since I just received the hat on Sat and have been calling every week for the past few months for a status on the hat, having RC tell me that it wasn't in repeatedly, had they had a custom hat made for me by Patey, it would have been in Patey's records. There was no order for the past 90 days for me there at Patey. The managing director will have to research farther back but he wasn't in to do so.

                        Also, when I went to pick up the hat, as Tomasso was waving it in the air to help the steam dry, I was skeptical. Because if it were custom made for me, why would he have to do through these machinations? I asked, "...and this is a custom helmet, correct?" Because I just knew he had taken it off the rack. He said, "Yes." He held up a wooden block and said, "This is your head."

                        Patey does not ship the wooden form w/the hat. It stays in storage with them in case the customer would like to have another built.

                        So, that's how I know I was supposed to get was a custom made helmet.

                        I didn't want to leave the trailer either, but Margi assured me that the hats took time to 'mold' to your head. And that it took a month for it to feel right.

                        As you might have noticed by now, another poster here said hers fit like a glove. Mine was painful, my forehead is bruised from it and my neck is strained from me having to push so hard to get it on my head.

                        "If you have the time, spend it. If you have a hand, lend it. If you have the money, give it. If you have a heart, share it." by me

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                          #92
                          <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Anyplace Farm:
                          <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by hjchik:
                          Sorry to hear you are having such problems Anyplace...

                          I guess I'm confused as to how you thought your Patey was going to be completely CUSTOM...I have never even heard of that option being offered by Regal Crowne. Margi always tells you the helmets are handmade and they will customize them to fit your head. I think they make that perfectly clear when you purchase the hat. But perhaps not...

                          Personally, I never would have left the trailer if I wasn't satisfied with what I had been given. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                          Well, it is quite simple...when I looked into the hat, they told me how the hats were custom made for you, per the information I posted above. They also refer to the item as 'custom' on the order form. They also charge a separate price for the customizing of the hat vs. buying one as is. It is stated on their price sheet.

                          The Patey employee who I spoke with also explained to me how the hats were made and confirmed that they do indeed make them that way for the Regal Crowne customers and mentioned having custom orders in for Regal Crowne customers as we spoke.

                          He checked his records for three months back to see if a custom order was submitted to them under my name by Regal Crowne. Since I just received the hat on Sat and have been calling every week for the past few months for a status on the hat, having RC tell me that it wasn't in repeatedly, had they had a custom hat made for me by Patey, it would have been in Patey's records. There was no order for the past 90 days for me there at Patey. The managing director will have to research farther back but he wasn't in to do so.

                          Also, when I went to pick up the hat, as Tomasso was waving it in the air to help the steam dry, I was skeptical. Because if it were custom made for me, why would he have to go through these machinations? I asked, "...and this is a custom helmet, correct?" Because I just knew he had taken it off the rack. He said, "Yes." He held up a wooden block and said, "This is your head."

                          Patey does not ship the wooden form w/the hat. It stays in storage with them in case the customer would like to have another built.

                          So, that's how I know what I was supposed to get was a custom made helmet.

                          I didn't want to leave the trailer either, but Margi assured me that the hats took time to 'mold' to your head. And that it took a month for it to feel right.

                          Also, if all they had to do was take one off the shelf and steam it to fit you, then why do you think they told me it would take three months to get mine?

                          As you might have noticed by now, another poster here who went to Patey in England to get hers said hers fit like a glove. Mine was painful, my forehead is bruised from it and my neck is strained from me having to push so hard to get it on my head. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                          "If you have the time, spend it. If you have a hand, lend it. If you have the money, give it. If you have a heart, share it." by me

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                          • #93
                            Anyplace, my hat really does fit me very comfortably - and has from day one. Somehow, it is snug enough to stay on really well, too.

                            With other helmets I tried, if they were snug enough not for the brims not to move or to come off, they hurt like you-know-what. This helmet is actually MORE snug than that and pretty hard to get off, actually, but doesn't hurt a bit. In fact, I can hardly tell I have it on, which is one of the things I like best about it. I absolutely HATE having things on my head and generally can barely tolerate a baseball cap - but I don't mind wearing this at all.
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                            • #94
                              <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Anyplace Farm:
                              First off, all, the company is Regal Crowne. Everyone should remember that and stop purchasing anything from these people. They sell jackets and boots as well as the Pateys and are clearly not a reputable firm.

                              <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                              First, I have to confess that I am biting the inside of my cheek hard enough to draw blood to keep from reeling off the hundred things that come to mind at the mere thought of spending that kind of money on a HAT!!!

                              However....I totally support you in the statment that everyone should heed the name of the company that ripped you off.
                              My opinion of the price of the hat itself does not mitigate theft.....which is what this is if they took your money and did not deliver the goods as promised.
                              Without dropping ANOTHER sum of money into this pot....I think you should take any recourse available to you.
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                                #95
                                <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lucassb:
                                Anyplace, my hat really does fit me very comfortably - and has from day one. Somehow, it is snug enough to stay on really well, too.

                                With other helmets I tried, if they were snug enough not for the brims not to move or to come off, they hurt like you-know-what. This helmet is actually MORE snug than that and pretty hard to get off, actually, but doesn't hurt a bit. In fact, I can hardly tell I have it on, which is one of the things I like best about it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                This is so reassuring for me to hear. I find it sad that no other poster here w/Pateys are saying the same. It really makes me wonder what this guy is doing.

                                I am convinced that the helmet they gave me is the exact one that they tried to sell me off the rack in FL. Given how worn the ribbon tails were, it was a clear indicator that this was not a newly made helmet.

                                And, given that the employee at Patey said they haven't made them with tails up in 'quite some time', I am confident this is one of RC's floor models. The Patey employee gasped when I said, "And the ribbon tails were up when I ordered them down." He said in a very sad voice, "Ma'am, I am afraid it sounds as though he has sold you a hat directly from his shelf."

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                                  #96
                                  <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BarbB:
                                  <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Anyplace Farm:
                                  First off, all, the company is Regal Crowne. Everyone should remember that and stop purchasing anything from these people. They sell jackets and boots as well as the Pateys and are clearly not a reputable firm.

                                  <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                  First, I have to confess that I am biting the inside of my cheek hard enough to draw blood to keep from reeling off the hundred things that come to mind at the mere thought of spending that kind of money on a HAT!!!

                                  However....I totally support you in the statment that everyone should heed the name of the company that ripped you off.
                                  My opinion of the price of the hat itself does not mitigate theft.....which is what this is if they took your money and did not deliver the goods as promised.
                                  Without dropping ANOTHER sum of money into this pot....I think you should take any recourse available to you.
                                  <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                  When you consider how long people wear helmets, I'd bet that they wear them longer than jackets. I have a Christie I've had for over 15 years.

                                  People pay $400+ for Grand Prix jackets that will go out of style (fabric patterns) in a year or so. How is this any crazier than that?

                                  They spend $200+ on breeches that their butts won't fit into in a year or so or that their children will grow out of.

                                  They spend $200+ on wither pads that will get tossed aside as soon as the Supracor comes out.

                                  They spend $1000+ for a weekend of showing where they will often come home with The Big Brown or nothing at all.

                                  This hat is classic in style and has been made that way for over 200 years. It can be worn hunting, in the big ring or the little ring or at home. People keep their helmets way longer than they keep any other horse-related item. The saddle and bridle are in the same league.

                                  I don't see it as any crazier than any other horse-related purchase. A lot of money? Yes. Am I rich? Hell no. Am I pissed that I've been suckered? Absolutely. Am I going to fight until I either get a hat that was made for me or I get my money back? You betcha.

                                  "If you have the time, spend it. If you have a hand, lend it. If you have the money, give it. If you have a heart, share it." by me

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                                  • #97
                                    Anyplace - the only reason I pursued a Patey was because my then-trainer had one that was purchased directly from England. If I had not had his experience to rely on, I never would have bought one as I heard nothing but horror stories about RC. I have since then sent a few people directly to Patey and they have all been very pleased. If you choose to get yours from them, I think you will find you get what you pay for.

                                    As an aside, yes - it is an enormous amount of money to pay for a helmet. But if you are a hard to fit person like I am, the comfort alone can justify the expense. I normally ride about an hour a day, six days a week, quite often longer on the weekends. I used to ride all those hours without a helmet because the screaming headaches I used to get from my stock helmet(s) made riding pure torture. I would have bought a regular approved helmet had I been able to find one I could wear without that kind of pain, but it proved impossible.
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                                    • #98
                                      <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Anyplace Farm:Also, when I went to pick up the hat, as Tomasso was waving it in the air to help the steam dry, I was skeptical. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
                                      And, you said he recognized you right away, but said to come back in an hour!? If you did a bullet point list of everything this guy has done that each individually points to shady business...and put it as a whole, in front of Patey, SURELY they'd step in for you. Well, maybe not, but I'd sure try. IF this hat was magically ready that last time you called him (and he hadn't bothered to notify you), and if he recognized you at this trailer early...you can bet that anyone with a legitimate hat as ordered would say "oh, there you are! I'm not really open so excuse my disorder but let me get your hat for you now before it gets busy". I mean, there was no money to change hands, and the ordering was done, and the hat was supposedly done...all he had to do was grab it and give it to you...IF it was indeed done. Definitely crazy, definitely not right. I hope you get some satisfaction.

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                                      • #99
                                        I would definitely be pissed off. I can't recommend enough having a lawyer contact them & going after a FULL refund. This is ridiculous!
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                                        • to me it sounds like a whole bunch of you got ripped off.

                                          i bet the uncomfrotable ones are not safe at all. I'm sorry but if somthing is already squeezing my temple and forehead that hard, if I hit the ground with my head wouldnt that be even MORE pressure?

                                          Anyplace freak out! You deserve it!
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