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The Patey Saga - A Happy Ending

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sannois:
    Just wondering how to hear the message, I click on the link and all I get is a green page that says index at the top, and a counter! I really dont want to hear her voice again, I heard it enough a almost 20 years ago.. And kt she is a 3 headed monster dont let the nice talk when she wants something fool you! that is one evil wench! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    If you got to the green page, you're there. You should see a small Real Player pop open and then it'll automatically start playing. You have to give it a second - - it is a big file so it might take a moment.

    "If you have the time, spend it. If you have a hand, lend it. If you have the money, give it. If you have a heart, share it." by me

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    • Anyplace-

      I just read this entire thread and am completely apauled (athough not surprised) Day after day, I hear things about aweful people in the horse business and this just adds to it. But all I have to say to you is ... YOU GO GIRL!

      I know there are good people out there, but it is tough to believe. I just listened to that message and was FLOORED. If I recieved a message like that from ANYONE I would be so mad I probably would not be able to see straight. It seems like you have been extremly cool throughout this entire thing and I HOPE that Patey takes action against that lady...because she is obviously doing harm to their business.

      As a side note, when you return the helmet MAKE SURE someone goes with you. Maybe not walk up with you together, because that may put her on guard, but make sure someone is around to hear everything that is said. I say take your money and run. Enough people have read this board to put RC out of business. I would be interested to hear what those pros think of her using their names and then acting the way she did.

      I wish you the best of luck!!!!!

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      • How 'bout some tips on how NOT to get taken to the cleaners by these types of people?

        Anyone?

        For me, I know that I always use my credit card (not a check card or debit card) to pay for any kinds of high dollar items, items that I have to order and wait to receive, or items where I'm only %99.9 confident in the seller.
        I know my credit card company has come shining through for me when I needed them, and I know others have had major problems with getting a refund thru debit cards/banks in instances when they were clearly victims of fraud. Just FYI.

        Also, I like to go to the Better Business Bureau online (www.bbb.org) to check out a company before I plunk down any larger chunks of money.... you can find some scary things out that way I found out the state's Attorney General's office had won a major ruling against one organization that I had gone there to check out.

        I used to be one of those naturally trusting people and never believed some one could possibly be out to screw me over - not anymore!

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        • RE: Vogels. I have two different sized feet and my Vogels are definitely the same size. They did measure my arch, though.
          Strength does not come from physical capacity. It comes from an indomitable will. - Gandhi

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          • OMG I just listened to the message! And THATS HER!!! I never wanted to hear that voice again! And aparently she hasn't changed abit! Wonder if Tony Workman and Tommy Serio know shes throwing their names around?? UGH!

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              Sannois, I PT'd you.

              "If you have the time, spend it. If you have a hand, lend it. If you have the money, give it. If you have a heart, share it." by me

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              • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LaurieB:
                Hopefully you will receive a wad of cash back the moment after you place your defective hat back in Margi's grasping hands. Once that transaction is complete, I really hope you print up this thread and mail it to her. It's kind of fun to imagine her having to listen to her own snotty message and pondering the power and magnitude of COTH readers in the equestion marketplace.
                Perhaps that will make her feel a little less _important_? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
                Hmm. I'm not stepping in on one side or the other, but does everyone jumping on this bandwagon really want their comments sent to a well respected and influential judge and horsewoman? You're all welcome to your opinions, but some of you may want to review your comments if that is the the original poster's intention. Just a friendly suggestion, as I've never seen a thread get quite so intense about a particular public figure.

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                • Totally off topic, but I just looked at your webshots, Chanda. GORGEOUS!!

                  Ok, back to your regularly scheduled program...
                  \"Riding a horse is not a gentle hobby, to be picked up and laid down like a game of solitaire. It is a grand passion. It seizes a person whole and, once it has done so, he will have to accept that his life will be radically changed.\" -- Ralph Waldo E

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                  • I don't think it would really matter. If she is so concerned about catering to only "important" people, do you really think her judging is any different. It sounds like who is standing at your ingate would decide if she gives you a look or not. This has been a test of character for her and unfortunatly she has come up wanting. It is really a sad reflection on her integrity as a judge. I have no idea who this women is, don't even know her last name.
                    Good luck with the helmet return and don't be surprised if she already has word of this thread. It is a very small world.
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                    • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by C.Boylen:
                      Hmm. I'm not stepping in on one side or the other, but does everyone jumping on this bandwagon really want their comments sent to a well respected and influential judge and horsewoman? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                      I get the distinct feeling that the implication of the above statement is that if this person sees these comments, that it will affect the results of the shows she judges. Am I getting the right picture?

                      I did listen to the appalling message that she left Anyplace and I will never give this company my business. Just because she is "well-respected and influential" does not give her the right to treat people so poorly. This type of elitist behavior is what gives the horse business a bad name, and I hope that people do lose respect for this person and take their business elsewhere.

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                      • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KellyS:
                        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by C.Boylen:
                        Hmm. I'm not stepping in on one side or the other, but does everyone jumping on this bandwagon really want their comments sent to a well respected and influential judge and horsewoman? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                        I get the distinct feeling that the implication of the above statement is that if this person sees these comments, that it will affect the results of the shows she judges. Am I getting the right picture? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                        Not at all.
                        I was getting the distinct feeling that many had no idea who or what they were criticizing, and were simply sympathizing with a poster who had a bad experience. That's fine, but some of the posts were becoming just as rude as the orginal conversation. Many gave me the impression that they were looking down on someone whom they perceived as a "shop girl" with delusions of grandeur, and these posts are perpetuating the very behavior that offended the orginal poster.

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                        • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by C.Boylen:
                          Hmm. I'm not stepping in on one side or the other, but does everyone jumping on this bandwagon really want their comments sent to a well respected and influential judge and horsewoman? You're all welcome to your opinions, but some of you may want to review your comments if that is the the original poster's intention. Just a friendly suggestion, as I've never seen a thread get quite so intense about a particular public figure. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                          Gee, Chandra, I was under the impression that this wasn't about anything but the crappy service that Anyplace got from Patey. Is that what you're worried about - that someone will find out? And do you really think that any judge worth his/her salt is going to A) know who all these posters are and write it down in his/her little black book and/or B) actually hold it against them in the show ring? Lot of effort for nothing if that's the case, IMO.

                          My apologies if I've misinterpreted your post.
                          In loving memory of Laura Jahnke.
                          A life lived by example, done too soon.
                          www.caringbridge.org/page/laurajahnke/

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                          • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by C.Boylen:
                            Hmm. I'm not stepping in on one side or the other, but does everyone jumping on this bandwagon really want their comments sent to a well respected and influential judge and horsewoman? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                            I show jumpers, not hunters for this very reason. Either the jump stays up or it doesn't, and either my time is the fastest, or it isn't. The judge's personal opinion of me is immaterial.

                            But, that aside, as she is earning this kind of reputation in the equestrian apparel industry, I don't see how she could possibly be (or remain) "well respected" as a judge when she treats her clientele like crap. (Personally, I've never heard of her) It isn't like her business is in a totally unrelated field to her judging. Respect and reputations go both ways. If the word spreads like it has here, it would not take long for those who hold the shows to figure out that having her as a judge means lost revenue. People might boycott venues because she is the judge, and then show managers would look elsewhere for a less "controversial" judge to bring people back.

                            Oh, and my recommendation for dealing with her? Picketting is perfectly legal as long as you don't restrict the flow of traffic going into her booth. You can stand right near the booth with very large signs stating your truthful and personal experience:

                            "Regal Crown sold me a 3 year old off-the-rack hat and told me it was 'custom made'."
                            "Regal Crowne misrepresented their goods to me."
                            "Regal Crowne does not treat their customers well."

                            If it is the truth and first hand experience, there isn't a bloody thing they can do.

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                            • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Many gave me the impression that they were looking down on someone whom they perceived as a "shop girl" with delusions of grandeur, and these posts are perpetuating the very behavior that offended the orginal poster. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                              Not me- I got the impression of a nasty old woman scamming a nice person. She may be the world's greatest judge and fair and benevolent and even feed the poor in Africa with her earnings.

                              BUT, she misrepresented a product that took her too long to get to the buyer. She left a rude message and used namedropping to make her point, whatever that was. She "sold" a "custom" hat at a premium price that neither fit the buyer nor met the buyers requirements (ie, bow up not down) and does not seem interested in helping her get what she requested or even explaining in a non-rude / non condescending manner. And we have a history of how she has treated others like that.

                              Perhaps our "salesperson" needs to get out of the business and go back to judging or whatever. Perhaps this thread will expedite that process and a more appropriate vendor will be found to represent Patey helmets in the US.
                              The witchy witch witch of south central NC.

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                              • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ESG:
                                <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                Gee, Chandra, I was under the impression that this wasn't about anything but the crappy service that Anyplace got from Patey... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
                                Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the 'crappy service' done by Regal Crowne and not Patey's? Be sure to slam the correct responsible parties.

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                                • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Many gave me the impression that they were looking down on someone whom they perceived as a "shop girl" with delusions of grandeur <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
                                  I assume most "shop girls" would have the intelligence and ability to deal with this situation in a far more professional fashion. I assumed from all that been posted here that this is your typical hobby equestrian business that turns out to be more work than the owners anticipated and ends up being run badly. Looks like I wasn't too far off.

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                                  • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pol:
                                    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ESG:
                                    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                    Gee, Chandra, I was under the impression that this wasn't about anything but the crappy service that Anyplace got from Patey... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
                                    Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the 'crappy service' done by Regal Crowne and not Patey's? Be sure to slam the correct responsible parties. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                    I'm so confused as to who owns who and is responsible for what that I probably did goof on that. So y'all please insert "Regal Crowne" where I mistakenly wrote "Patey".

                                    Thanks for the correction.
                                    In loving memory of Laura Jahnke.
                                    A life lived by example, done too soon.
                                    www.caringbridge.org/page/laurajahnke/

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                                    • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by silver:
                                      <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Many gave me the impression that they were looking down on someone whom they perceived as a "shop girl" with delusions of grandeur <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
                                      I assume most "shop girls" would have the intelligence and ability to deal with this situation in a far more professional fashion. I assumed from all that been posted here that this is your typical hobby equestrian business that turns out to be more work than the owners anticipated and ends up being run badly. Looks like I wasn't too far off. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                      Ditto and ditto. Any "shop girl" with the temerity to speak to a customer like that would shortly find herself shopless. Alas, the dilettante dabbler who is probably a frustrated equestrienne is far more venomous and difficult to deal with. I think this Margi character personifies the latter.
                                      In loving memory of Laura Jahnke.
                                      A life lived by example, done too soon.
                                      www.caringbridge.org/page/laurajahnke/

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                                      • Respected and influential Judge??? On what planet.???

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                                        • If it's this one, hopefully, not much longer.
                                          In loving memory of Laura Jahnke.
                                          A life lived by example, done too soon.
                                          www.caringbridge.org/page/laurajahnke/

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