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  • #61
    [QUOTE=Tamara in TN;5309240]pretty well I'd say...

    the OP is trying to fatten a horse in work with a single 50 pound bale of 7%-9% CP hay split over 5 days....

    Well, exactly. When put like that, of course it is laugh-able, and sad. That diet would not be enough for my already chubby sec A mare.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Tamara in TN View Post
      pretty well I'd say...

      the OP is trying to fatten a horse in work with a single 50 pound bale of 7%-9% CP hay split over 5 days....

      My husband laughed at the whole absurdness of the animal being in a negative energy situation,in work and is basically on a starvation ration and this person is asking how long til the mare fattens up....?? and under a vets orders to treat the mare this way??

      it was too much for him...and he laughed.

      last I checked I was not appointed to anything (by birth,contract,vote or even even inventing the Internet) here or elsewhere. If nominated I will not run if elected I will not serve

      However,hay is my business. My sole mortgage paying farming business for 13 years. And we employee 10 men full time as well so we are not fair weather part timers.

      So yes, I do interject when incorrect,sometimes dangerous and potentiality harmful information is presented. Now, if you'd rather I did not, please say so.

      Tamara in TN
      For a number of years, I raised horses for sale. I had so many that I raised all of my own feed.

      Apparently some here have the attitude that what you say is not so important. After all raising hay is kind of like mowing the yard.

      Anyone who believes that should try it sometime.

      It takes some pretty serious management to raise horse quality hay.

      And even more so if it is alfalfa. One day in timing can make the difference between hay that burns the barn and hay that is perfect.

      A day or two on the long side and it loses al of its leaves and is mostly stems.

      At that is only the beginning. Weevils, weeds, chemicals, lime, fertilizers, etc.

      Most who buy hay have no idea.

      CSSJR

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      • #63
        Originally posted by LLDM View Post
        Oh come on. We ARE rude. Hello! No point in being defensive about it. There are a ton of posts here that I bet my bottom dollar the poster would not say to to the OPs face.

        I often feel sorry for people who get piled onto on this board. One wrongly worded post can get your head handed to you. So why be so bloody surprised when someone mentions it?

        Yes, we are rude. Some of us try to wait until someone else is rude first. Usually, it's not a long wait!

        But really guys, why get your panties in a wad one someone calls it like it is? The OP came here asking for advice and as usual the COTH prolific posters just had to say, basically, that she was worthy of being laughed at. That's about the very definition of rude. Just because a relatively new poster didn't swoon over some hay advice from our self appointed hay guru is no reason for her (that would be Tamera) to get on her condescending 'tude. The OP was asking for help and really that was far from helpful.

        So now it's my turn to be rude! How'd I do?

        SCFarm
        Good point. We ARE blunt, sometimes to a point of rudeness. Shouldn't be surprised when someone notices!

        Originally posted by RooMB4 View Post
        While most people here don't seem to care whether OP's feelings seem to have frequently been hurt on this board, I do agree with her. Everyone wasn't born knowing what they currently know about horses. It's a learning process asking a question (no matter how stupid the perfect horse people think it is) doesn't warrant nasty responses.

        With that being said, I'm not sure it's just this board - I think it's horse people in general. I've been around the horse crowd (all disciplines) for a number of years and there's always cattiness. It's unfortunate, but true. It's always a competition, even when it's not.
        I haven't read the hay thread being referenced but, yeah, as a sometime instructor I know how one can get asked questions that do seem absurdly obvious ... yet the questioner is sincere and truly trying to learn. As to horse people, well, I mostly only know horse people and dog people and both are pretty much the same I'd say!
        If thou hast a sorrow, tell it not to the arrow, tell it to thy saddlebow, and ride on, singing. -- King Alfred the Great

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Rallycairn View Post

          I haven't read the hay thread being referenced but, yeah, as a sometime instructor I know how one can get asked questions that do seem absurdly obvious ... yet the questioner is sincere and truly trying to learn. As to horse people, well, I mostly only know horse people and dog people and both are pretty much the same I'd say!

          well into the discussion between the two of us:
          my post,
          some mares will always keep fluid,others dry back like a bit of jerky you just never know...it's odd though unless you were pouring the feed to her already what was the logic behind stopping the feed to dry her up ? that is almost a cow/nanny/ewe way to look at things..esp if she was fighting an infection...

          anyway my husband laughed when he heard with you were feeding...he said if you were going to feed timothy you'll need 20 maybe 30 pounds a day...


          Tamara in TN
          Last edited by Tamara in TN; Dec. 27, 2010, 07:31 PM.
          Production Acres,Pro A Welsh Cobs
          I am one of the last 210,000 remaining full time farmers in America.We feed the others.

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          • #65
            The place is blunt, definitely, but really I've only got two people on ignore. And it's not anything they said to ME, specifically. It's just that whenever you see those particular names at the top of the post, it's a dead giveaway that the post itself will be full of snide and nastiness and totally devoid of any useful information.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by katarine View Post
              Thought you'd be gone by now? How many posts to tell us you're leaving?

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              • #67
                Originally posted by RooMB4 View Post
                While most people here don't seem to care whether OP's feelings seem to have frequently been hurt on this board, I do agree with her. Everyone wasn't born knowing what they currently know about horses. It's a learning process asking a question (no matter how stupid the perfect horse people think it is) doesn't warrant nasty responses.

                With that being said, I'm not sure it's just this board - I think it's horse people in general. I've been around the horse crowd (all disciplines) for a number of years and there's always cattiness. It's unfortunate, but true. It's always a competition, even when it's not.
                Have you checked her profile? She's ostensibly and equine professional.

                This is not professional behavior.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by victorian24 View Post
                  GOOD BYE CoTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                  I think you left off an exclamation point. There are only 15 there.
                  Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by LLDM View Post
                    Oh come on. We ARE rude. Hello! No point in being defensive about it. There are a ton of posts here that I bet my bottom dollar the poster would not say to to the OPs face.

                    I often feel sorry for people who get piled onto on this board. One wrongly worded post can get your head handed to you. So why be so bloody surprised when someone mentions it?

                    Yes, we are rude. Some of us try to wait until someone else is rude first. Usually, it's not a long wait!

                    SCFarm
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by victorian24 View Post
                      GOOD BYE CoTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                      YES! I love the ones that flounce!

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                      • #71
                        GOODBYE, CRUEL WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                        !!

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                        • #72
                          Victorian24- I'm posting in support of your vent-I agree with you 1000%-- if you are still bothering to read any the drivel being posted in response to your vent. In general, many of the posts (on almost any subject, but not all) are so full of snide and snark that any "information" or "advice" often gets drowned in the poison being spewed.

                          Please be aware that it does no good at all to bother to remark on the level of rudeness that some people on this board wallow in-- they GLORY in their ability to be rude without any real life consequences-- that is why they come here-- because they CAN be rude and not face the consequences-- unless they step over the invisible line and get BANNED by the mods.

                          Anyway I afraid that all you accomplished with your post was to give all of the rude, snotty, self-important ones here a belated "holiday gift" --- they all got that warm and fuzzy feeling when reading your post because they felt complemented-- and they felt justified in spewing more trash.
                          Laissez les bons temps rouler!
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                          --An equine refuge

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by elysian*fields*farm View Post
                            Victorian24- I'm posting in support of your vent-I agree with you 1000%-- if you are still bothering to read any the drivel being posted in response to your vent. In general, many of the posts (on almost any subject, but not all) are so full of snide and snark that any "information" or "advice" often gets drowned in the poison being spewed.

                            Please be aware that it does no good at all to bother to remark on the level of rudeness that some people on this board wallow in-- they GLORY in their ability to be rude without any real life consequences-- that is why they come here-- because they CAN be rude and not face the consequences-- unless they step over the invisible line and get BANNED by the mods.

                            Anyway I afraid that all you accomplished with your post was to give all of the rude, snotty, self-important ones here a belated "holiday gift" --- they all got that warm and fuzzy feeling when reading your post because they felt complemented-- and they felt justified in spewing more trash.
                            And this is an example of good manners. LOL.

                            Your sig would lead one to believe that you operate a refuge or horse retirement facility of some sort.

                            If so, do you not have some concern that OP's horse is being starved?

                            Should you not take the position that the horse must be properly fed?

                            If not properly fed, should you not seize the horse so that it is properly fed?

                            Is it less rude to be blunt with OP or is is less rude to take the horse?

                            Or are you just trolling?

                            CSSJR

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                            • #74
                              EFF< we didn't know you cared!

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                              • #75
                                What tempest in a tea cup did I miss?

                                Another person leaving, knickers tightly twisted, because the advice was not as expected?

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                                • #76
                                  Your sig would lead one to believe that you operate a refuge or horse retirement facility of some sort.

                                  If so, do you not have some concern that OP's horse is being starved?

                                  Should you not take the position that the horse must be properly fed?

                                  If not properly fed, should you not seize the horse so that it is properly fed?

                                  Is it less rude to be blunt with OP or is is less rude to take the horse?

                                  Or are you just trolling?
                                  IF OP had been starving her horse on purpose, then yes, we would have a big issue. However, she came here for advice, and obviously is not interested in abusing or neglecting the horse. Sometimes the unnecessary drama just muddies the water. Tell OP, in a helpful way, what she can do for her mare, and emphasize the urgency that she get more hay and feed into the horse. Period. Snarkiness is not helpful.

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                                  • #77
                                    EFF is still pissed that got trounced on for her *I want to kill the dog* thread.
                                    If i'm posting on Coth, it's either raining so I can't ride or it's night time and I can't sleep.

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                                    • #78
                                      Originally posted by saje View Post
                                      Have you checked her profile? She's ostensibly and equine professional.

                                      This is not professional behavior.
                                      Not only that, she claims on her website to offer instruction which includes nutrition...
                                      "It's like a Russian nesting doll of train wrecks."--CaitlinandTheBay

                                      ...just settin' on the Group W bench.

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                                      • #79
                                        Originally posted by Catersun View Post
                                        EFF is still pissed that got trounced on for her *I want to kill the dog* thread.
                                        Yeah, I was going to say, she's just annoyed she got jumped for saying she wanted to beat a dog to death and was just going to dump it by the side of the road for killing her cat.

                                        The world would be a much more straightforward place if people stopped making "OMG YOU HURT MY FEEWINGS" their number one priority.
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                                        • #80
                                          Quite honestly, I know nothing about the real people behind the screen names on COTH. I can't say one way or the other if claims of being a professional this or a professional that are accurate or not. My point is simply in agreement with farmgirl...genuine questions deserve informative answers. It's not always about what is being said, but more often, the tone in which it is delivered. My response is not specifically related the the hay/feeding issue that keeps being raised as I've not read that thread but just in general for many of the topics I've read on this board. Hopefully when someone asks a question they are able to sift through and withstand the unnecessary comments and learn something that may help them in their situation.

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