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  • #21
    I live 'at the barn' so it would be problematic for me not to drink there occasionally. I do not mind if the boarders want to have a drink on special occasions like holidays, cookouts, etc. It is an unspoken rule that those times are not 'horse time' anyways, especially once any alcohol has been had.

    I did evict a boarder once for a reason related to alcohol. She was a worker in the health care field and would drop by to see her handfull of a spoiled yearling in the evenings on the way home from work. Quite often she would crawl out of her car with a glass of wine already in hand! Her general demeanor kind of hinted that the glass in hand was NOT the first. I have no problem with some one who likes to catch a good buzz after work, but you are NOT going to do it just before you arrive at the barn and you certainly will NOT be handling your horse like that anywhere near mine or the other client's horses! Too much chance of stupidity. There were a lot of other reasons this person had to go, but this was certainly a huge factor.
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    • #22
      Shortly after I started taking jumping lessons (at 52), I began secretly tossing down a miniature of vodka before the lesson. (My instructor was an abstainer.) She commented on how rapidly I improved after that.

      We had cook-outs at the barn, and there was always a wheelbarrow of ice for adults to stash their cold ones in. We never had any problems with over-consumption or inappropriate behavior.
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      • #23
        I don't board now but when I did it was ONLY to adults. I had a small fridge in the tackroom and if someone wanted to keep a couple of beers in there, it was fine with me as I usually kept a couple in there along with some soda's and water. Now, there's barely room for a couple of bottles of water as the shelves are filled with beet pulp for the horse's breakfast and dinner and a 5 lb bag of carrots and apples.

        I now have a neighbor that trucks in to use my indoor and I don't worry about her bringing over anything but at Christmas time I did give her a plate of rum balls. I sure hope that my commercial liability contract doesn't count that as drinking at the barn.
        Sue

        I'm not saying let's go kill all the stupid people...I'm just saying let's remove all the warning labels and let the problem sort itself out.

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        • #24
          Not really at my current barn.
          Some of my fondest memories from the barn I ran was when myself and the other 3 trainers were done for the day, horses were turned out, we'd pull all our camp chairs together with a view of the herd, fashion ourselves martinis in red plastic cups and talk dressage. Could we have done that in one of our homes? Sure, and once a quarter we did, but there was really something special about being covered in horse boogers after a hard days work, talking about what we LOVE, and those glamorous red cups.
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          • #25
            In the western riding world, it is rare the person that doesn't drink some and many drink a little too much.

            If you were to ban drinking, you would not have anyone show up.
            I have seen some neighbors going to help work cattle before daylight already a little bit into their drinks, thinking all is so funny and giggling.
            They also didn't close the gates, let the cattle we just penned back out and had a wreck, that they thought it was so funny also.

            I know of horse owners that support large stables and top trainers that drink too much and would not have a trainer around that doesn't also drink plenty.

            When drinking is a problem, that it may be in a barn is secondary to what drinking too much may become.

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            • #26
              Yep. A beer at the barn on a hot day is a wunnerful, wunnerful thing.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by AppendixQHLover View Post
                Sometimes in the Ladies lesson if we are riding in the afternoon we have a glass of wine. There are no kids there in that lesson.
                This only. My own barn, and when I have a "Ladies' Lesson" , a glass, or 2 of wine after a ride, and drinking some good wine down at our "farm house" is a good bit of fun. Lucky to have overnight accomadations for such occasions that we sometimes have a "Ladies Camp", and yes, alcohol is on the menu. At the other end of the spectrum: Never when lessons are children, or special need riding sessions.

                I think that whether or not alcohol is appropriate depends on many variables. I have a small program, and when it's "Ladies' Day", a glass or two of wine...while watching video of lessons, can be a lot of fun.

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                • #28
                  Yes...Occasionally a few of us (all well into adulthood) will share a bottle of wine or some beers at the end of the day. Unfortunately, someone who worked for me a few years back drank WAY too much on a regular basis at these gatherings, to the point where due to inappropriate behavior, she was asked to leave. I have heard since that she drinks with the juniors at her new barn Totally inappropriate, but I see nothing wrong with a glass of wine after a long day among RESPONSIBLE adults. If it was a kid-centered barn, that would be a different story...but ours is mostly adults. Unfortunately, it only takes one bad apple to ruin this practice though.
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                  • #29
                    1) I'm a foxhunter: Why waste a good flask?

                    2) My gelding is now 27 and legal for years. He loves a good swig of Sam Adams!

                    In all seriousness, a stirrup cup hits the spot on a cold day, but the music of the hounds is more intoxicating than any alcohol! If I tried to drink a beer while out in the barn, I'd just misplace it. But a glass of wine watching the sunset while the horses graze is heavenly.

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                    • #30
                      I used to belong to a riding club that sold wine by the glass in the club house, which was never an issue.

                      My current barn has sort of a tradition of Sunday morning mimosas in the office after the group lessons. This is a social activity and there might be children around having lessons elsewhere, but no one drinks in front of the kids or EVER handles a horse while or after drinking.

                      However, there is one boarder who comes in the late afternoon after work and basically stays there until I don't know what time--she has never left there ahead of me. She has permission to keep beer in the trainer's office fridge, and pours it into a big plastic mug so that kids who are there for lessons at that time don't know she's swigging Bud. Many of us believe that this woman is an alcoholic, and that she should not ever be allowed to drink there. Her drinking is NOT social, and she masks it in her sippee cup. She gets drunk. It's creepy.

                      But the issue is that of the culture of this particular barn. Drinking and smoking are accepted around the barn and when there are children present.

                      I go back and forth between outrage and chastising myself for being so critical of activities that are legal and that millions of people do at home with their kids around and there is nothing wrong with it.
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                      • #31
                        I was at a barn that had a full bar, and the fridge had nothing but olives, tomato juice and celery sticks--and whatever else to make a smart cocktail or tini. No "food".

                        And truth be known, it was the old-timers that got into the cough medicine a little too much and caused all sorts of chaos, not the youngins' (which I was one of them) . We're talking obliterated lying in the lawn, forgetting to take very important health meds, crashing golf carts etc.--it was funny though (to me anyway). This was usually in the lounge/patio and mostly not during handling of horses-but there were some that did drink and ride.

                        It was interesting though to see how well the horses took care of their owners that were smashed
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                          #32
                          Originally posted by fatwhitepony View Post
                          I live 'at the barn' so it would be problematic for me not to drink there occasionally. I do not mind if the boarders want to have a drink on special occasions like holidays, cookouts, etc. It is an unspoken rule that those times are not 'horse time' anyways, especially once any alcohol has been had.

                          I did evict a boarder once for a reason related to alcohol. She was a worker in the health care field and would drop by to see her handfull of a spoiled yearling in the evenings on the way home from work. Quite often she would crawl out of her car with a glass of wine already in hand! Her general demeanor kind of hinted that the glass in hand was NOT the first. I have no problem with some one who likes to catch a good buzz after work, but you are NOT going to do it just before you arrive at the barn and you certainly will NOT be handling your horse like that anywhere near mine or the other client's horses! Too much chance of stupidity. There were a lot of other reasons this person had to go, but this was certainly a huge factor.
                          Totally understand that one.

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                          • #33
                            Yes, there are people drinking at our barn on most nice days in the summer. It's generally after riding and after the work is done, to put the horses out and sit in lawn chairs and watch them while having a beer/cooler or two. I've never seen anyone drunk there. I have no problem with it and I do join in when I have the time!
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                            Why must you chastise my brilliant idea with facts and logic? **picks up toys (and wine) and goes home**

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                            • #34
                              The barn owner has never thought to ban alcohol, as none of the boarders have ever thought to hang around drinking and being annoying. Coffee, on the other hand, is forbidden ever since a rash of coffee spills on tack caused by boarders leaving coffee cups within the reach of barn dogs.

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                              • #35
                                It isn't abnormal to see my boss (BO) come over to the barn with a cocktail after 5 to watch the evening lessons in the summer. (She lives on the property) Sometimes we will have picnics on Sunday afternoons and everyone consumes alcohol in a moderate amount.
                                We had out farm Christmas party last week and hired two bartenders with an open bar ;D .
                                As far as boarders just bringing over a 6 pack and popping a top....that doesn't ever happen but during small get togethers and the like, it's not uncommon.

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                                • #36
                                  I don't know what the rules are at my barn, but I'm assuming it's not allowed. That's the way it has been at most placed I've ridden or boarded at.

                                  There probably is some alcohol on the property considering that the BO lives there but I dont think beer and wine ever make it into the barn, except perhaps as a holiday gift that gets opened later. Most people are too busy coming and going from school/work to ride so I don't think they'd want to drink while they were there.

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                                  • #37
                                    I wonder in this day and age of lawsuits.....could a barn be held responsible if a boarder left the premises after drinking there and got in an accident?????

                                    I personally think a boarding barn is a place of business and should act as such. Granted, maybe if you have two or three adult boarders and you want to go share wine at the end of the day, that's one thing. But having open alcohol in front of children at the barn is a big NO, NO IMO.

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                                    • #38
                                      I also live on the farm I manage, so I can drink on the farm if I want. But I generally choose not to, or I might not make it for night check!

                                      We had a holiday party with drinks, and the lesson kids were present. Their parents were there as well, and nobody got crazy. My lesson kids are all good eggs and sat with me and talked Glee and books. Didn't even look twice at the alcohol table. Such good girls! My BO is british, so sees nothing wrong with a glass of wine or two, but in general, there is no drinking unless a special occasion/holiday. No one would dare get out of control for fear of the wrath of the BO! She definitely does not hold back!
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                                      • #39
                                        you mean that not everyone does it?

                                        dang.
                                        Have YOU ever looked into the eyes of a rich white child who has just lost a jumping competition?

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                                        • #40
                                          We have group trail rides at different friends barns. some of us will have a beer before going out or bring it with us in a bottle holder. if you bring it with you, you need to take the bottle back to the barn no leaving it on the trail. most weeks we will also have a BBQ after the ride and a drink or two. but no one goes over board. we did have a camp over and drank pretty heavily but that was after horses were taken care of.

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