No god deed goes unpunished- RIP Luna

[KristiKGC]

Since I don't even want to have to look at that dog, much less feed or handle her, that is probably what I will do -- put her out of my fenced yard -- if her owner doesn't come through for her -- too bad. If she is stupid enough to leave the front yard and - gets hit-- too bad-- so sad-- one less cat-killing dog.

For everyone sticking up for the OP and saying that she is just venting and wouldn't do it, I would like you to re-read the bolded part above. All we have to go on is what the poster tells us. She says she will probably just turn him loose. That is a cruel, heartless act. It isn't my responsibility to assume she's a decent enough person not to actually go through with it.

[naters]

Sorry for your loss OP.

It is true, no good deed goes unpunished.

Money has been super tight this year but I decided to adopt a cat from a rescue that pulled him from his "expiration date" at the pound because the shelter woman was going through a divorce and having to shut down her shelter, etc... He was guaranteed healthy, but he just got out of the vet clinic for $581.62.

He was not healthy at all.... will be paying on that bill for a long time.

[trubandloki]

Wow, your post is the worst thing I've heard in a very long time. And I don't mean the part about the dog killing your cat. I am very sorry that it happened, but the dog doesn't deserve to be kicked out on the street. YOU took the dog in, THE OWNERS have abandoned him with you, YOU accidentally let the cat out. And yet, you feel that its ok to let a dog starve to death, scared and alone? The dog was acting out of insticts. You, however, can think about your actions and still want to be a horrible person, which IMHO, makes you worse than the dog.

I felt bad when I started reading your post, now I just feel disgusted.

Putting the dog to sleep, fine. But just dumping the dog outside, is cruel, inhumane and illegal!

I'm very sorry for the loss of your cat. Having had the same experience with a "cat safe" dog I was fostering, I know exactly what you witnessed. It's why I no longer foster adult dogs.

However, what you are proposing to do to the dog is nothing short of a crime. Legally, morally and ethically.

The responsible thing to do is to take the animal to an animal shelter, or contact a rescue and attempt to place the animal. Or, euthanize it humanely.

If you dump this dog - I hope the authorities find out and you're convicted of animal cruelty.

While I sympathize with and understand your sorrow over the loss of your cat - it will never excuse what you are proposing to do.

And your "friend" sounds like a real boil on the butt of society for even proposing it - as do you for even considering it.

Again - my condolences on the loss of your cat - but don't inflict suffering and terror on the dog for acting according to its instincts.

All great posts!

Venting is one thing. This seems to be past venting.

And the long and short of it is, the person watching the animals is in charge of making sure nothing happens. The dog is not the one at fault here.

[amastrike]

People say things they don't mean when they're upset. If my beloved cat was just killed by a dog, I'd be talking about tossing the dog out on the streets, too. Doesn't mean I'd do it.

[JenRose]

EFF - I am shock over your cruel posts. I am sorry about your cat but it is NOT the dog's fault. Your signature says you run an "equine refuge". I would think you to be a kind, rescue minded individual but your comments have me reeling!!! Hit the dog over the head with a shovel, kick it, abandon it to me hit by a car, starve, etc???????

I got my first horse when I was in the 6th grade. My sister was in the 3rd grade and we "shared" him for awhile. We hadn't had him a month and she fell off and he stepped on her putting her in ICU for a week. Did my parents kill or punish the horse....no it was an accident!

I took in a feral cat last year. I have 4 rescue dogs, all cat savy, but this cat would run like the wind when the dogs came up to the barn. One day my Lab chased her up a tree. She ran out on a smaller branch and fell. I saw it happen from the barn. When she hit the ground, my Lab and terrier mix were circling her, lunging and barking. By the time I got there she was almost gone. I never saw the dogs pick her up, bite or shake her but they are the reason she died. I hate that it happened. I hate that she died scared and in pain. I do not hate the dogs. It was a terrible accident. They were being dogs and she was being a cat!

I am in North Louisiana. Please do not turn the dog out or abuse her. PM me if you need help.

Again, condolences on your Luna.

[KristiKGC]

*raising hand* Late poster. Just found this thread. Thanks very much for knowing what others think, asb_own_me. One of my beloved pets was just killed by another animal I'm caring for. Would I take it out on the animal? Would I think terrible thoughts about retribution? Would I abandon it? NO! In the future -- speak - for - yourself. Or better yet, point the finger of shame at elysian*fields*farm, instead of the people who choose responsible animal care. Everything's great until something bad happens, then it's either head bashed in with a shovel or kicked to the curb? Yeah. That's something to defend. And so in keeping with the season too. Very compassionate.


Mods, please consider banning elysian*fields*farm. I for one am appalled by her post and not interested in seeing any more 'vents' in the future, or posts like asb_own_me who feel the need to defend EFF's behavior, and that she's justified in inflicting her disgusting thoughts on the rest of us.

I must have missed asb's post earlier.

asb_own_me, who do you think you are to call people who don't have those cruel thoughts liars? Don't try to justify your lack of decency by saying that everyone would feel that way. I think there have been plenty of people coming forward who agree saying that the thought never crossed their mind. I completely agree with OnThinIce, in the future asb, speak for yourself.

[asb_own_me]

People say things they don't mean when they're upset. If my beloved cat was just killed by a dog, I'd be talking about tossing the dog out on the streets, too. Doesn't mean I'd do it.

Exactly what I was trying to say.

Good for the rest of you who've never had a horrible thought cross your mind, ever, no matter how bad things got. Wow. You're super.

[FalseImpression]

I too am sorry that you lost your cat in such dramatic fashion, but really "YOU" let the cat out... by accident, but still YOU let it out. So maybe you are feeling more guilt about this that you want to admit. The dog was just being a dog. My dog would also kill a cat if he had the chance so we make sure he is never in close quarters with a cat. He tried once going through a screen door to get to my daughter's now fiancé's cat. Believe me, we make sure these two are always separated and very rarely have them on the same property!

To think, write and post what you did is inexcusable. That is NOT going to help you in the long run... at all. We will probably never know what you do with the dog and I hope you find her another home, but knowing what I know of LA... no such hope unless she gets to a shelter which works with rescues.

YOU also post so often of the good you do for horses... well, sorry, but reading such a post (or rather two posts) makes me doubt of your good deeds... what would happen if one horse kicked and made euthanasia necessary for one of your favourite horses?????

By posting here and being sad/angry but not irrational, you would have had the compassion and help of a whole bb. Now, you lost all that... people will not read your posts without that big grain of salt.

I am sorry for you, sorry for your cat, but mostly sorry for the dog who had obviously not been taught any better by her former owner nor by you.

And if saying that is being an ass, well I am fine with it! People like this need a kick in the butt too.

[danceronice]

OP, I might think about shooting the dog, but even if I were THAT ANGRY that I'd chose a dead cat over a live dog, at least I'd be just killing it.

If you do just dump it, I hope you know in most states that's at least misdemeanor animal cruelty. If it gets hit by a car, car loses control, people in car are killed injured, enjoy the civil suit and if it's a slow day at the DA's office, they might even try and get you on contributing to vehicular homicide. And we've got you on here in writing saying you'll turn it lose and you HOPE it gets hit by a car.

Animals are animals. My neighbor used to keep his horses and mules on our land and they stomped a kitten to death in front of me once. Because mules will do that. Didn't stop me from loving the pony from the herd he gave me.

If you want the dog gone and probably dead, take it to the county shelter, cough up the surrender fee (don't weasel your way out of it) and leave it. If you do pitch it on the road to fend for itself like the jackasses who've dumped dogs and cats on our farm, I hope you get caught and fined.

[Just Wondering]

But I also blame friend's daughter who kept bringing little fluffy stuffed toys for her to play with even after I had asked that young woman not to bring such toys to her. She would come while I wasn't home and toss these to her over the fence.


Dog was only supposed to be here a couple of weeks to begin with and it has been eight fricking months.

I am very sorry for Luna. I am much more a cat person than a dog person.

However -

If the dog had intended to kill the cat - it had eight months to do so in the house. The fluffly toys could of been thrown away before the dog ever played with them. ( Pointing fingers.)

At the end of the two weeks - 4 weeks, it was up to you to give your friend a choice. Now when something has happened - you are again pointing fingers?

Once again - I am very sorry for Luna. Rehome the dog, mourn for Luna and let it go.

[Trakehner]

The dog would be gone...today.

Dog's either at the local shelter or the owner is finding another home....today. Their choice.

Sorry, but peoplle waving hands and whinging "He's only being a dog" and "You're being so mean"....oh please. A neighbor dog was running after 2 horses, one injured and put down due to the dog. Bang! Dead dog and we hung him on the fence bordering the barn/his owners property...this was in Middleburg, VA...horse country doesn't tolerate livestock killing dogs.

If somebody's dog killed a barn cat...another "Bang" moment. I protect those I care about...I couldn't abide a dog near me who killed my cat.

So sorry about the cat.

[Trixie]

Good for the rest of you who've never had a horrible thought cross your mind, ever, no matter how bad things got. Wow. You're super.

You have been on these boards for long enough to know that people do VERY BAD THINGS to animals.

Here we have someone threatening, in a fair amount of detail, that she wants to do VERY BAD THINGS to an animal.

There is no way for us to know whether or not she’s “serious” so I’m going to go by exactly what she posted. Which was cruel and nasty and horrible and detailed animal abuse. And frankly, we’ve all seen it too many times to pat her on the head and tell her so sad, we’re sorry, feel better. Not when she said she wants to HIT AN ANIMAL WITH A SHOVEL or KICK AND STOMP IT or LEAVE IT IN THE COLD TO GET HIT BY A CAR AND DIE.

And I don’t understand, for all the grace in me, how you could POSSIBLY even BEGIN to condone that.

If I lived in Louisiana I’d go pick up the dog to spare him. I don’t really have anywhere to put him, but inside somewhere safe would be a start.

[Trixie]

Sorry, but peoplle waving hands and whinging "He's only being a dog" and "You're being so mean"....oh please. A neighbor dog was running after 2 horses, one injured and put down due to the dog. Bang! Dead dog and we hung him on the fence bordering the barn/his owners property...this was in Middleburg, VA...horse country doesn't tolerate livestock killing dogs.

But out here we know the problem is just as much the owner as it is the dog. Dogs shouldn't be out chasing livestock because they should be a) taught better than that and b) supervised.

I don't think it would be nearly as big of an issue if the OP were to have the dog properly euthanized or otherwise humanely disposed of. Beating it, kicking it, and turning it out on the street are not appropriate answers.

[danceronice]

The dog might be gone (again, I'd consider circumstances as I can much more easily replace a cat than a dog, ie for free in about five minutes without exageration, much as I can replace a dog more easily than a horse--a drive to the pound for about $50 vs. God knows how long) but throwing the animal out on the road is not only cruel, it's criminally-actionable cruelty, not to mention dangerous to people and other animals.

Take it to the shelter. Throwing it out to fend for itself it the sort of idiocy for which people should have their other animals taken away.

[ADM7040]

Elysian Fields Farm I initially felt sympathy for you when I read about the loss of your cat, but now I feel nothing but disgust for you and your cruel intentions. Your obvious lack of a moral compass has now been shown and I will never forget that whenever I read another of your posts and I suspect that many others feel the same. I hope that you rein in your anger, take this dog to an animal shelter and never take another dog in your household again.

To asb own me: no, I have never had cruel thoughts like this no matter what an animal has done wrong. Perhaps you have and that is why you assume that everyone else has done so, but that is certainly not normal. It is even less normal to post these thoughts on a public forum that caters to responsible, educated animal lovers.

I do understand why people tried to reason with the OP and ask her to do the morally (and legally!) correct actions for the dog. You are good people and displayed more sympathy and kindness to the OP than she deserved. Certainly far more than she is displaying towards the dog.

In the spirit of the holiday season, I will wish the OP sympathy for the loss of her beloved cat but also implore her to take the dog (unharmed) to the shelter. Perhaps this dog may have a chance to finally live in a home where he/she is wanted and loved.

[msj]

My sympathies

I'm very sorry for the loss of your cat, Luna.

Have a neighbor take the dog to an animal shelter as you are in no condition to do so.

[TBMaggie]

Well OP, are you going to come back here and tell us all what you did with the dog??

I too, am very sorry about your cat. Very sorry. But if you've had time to reflect a bit on this, I hope you realize that this wasn't the dog's fault, it was yours. YOU accidently let your cat out. It was an accident. Sh*t happens. Most of us can relate...a tiny lapse in our pet's lives, and the result is death. Grieve, cry an ocean, but you have to accept this for what it is - an accident.

*Why people use the internet to vent every thought that enters their heads, is beyond me

[LovelyBay]

The dog would be gone...today.

Dog's either at the local shelter or the owner is finding another home....today. Their choice.

Sorry, but peoplle waving hands and whinging "He's only being a dog" and "You're being so mean"....oh please. A neighbor dog was running after 2 horses, one injured and put down due to the dog. Bang! Dead dog and we hung him on the fence bordering the barn/his owners property...this was in Middleburg, VA...horse country doesn't tolerate livestock killing dogs.

If somebody's dog killed a barn cat...another "Bang" moment. I protect those I care about...I couldn't abide a dog near me who killed my cat.

So sorry about the cat.

I'm sure someone will want to ban me for this comment, but I have to disagree with the "it's just a dog being a dog comment". I've had animals attacked by dogs and I don't think it's acceptable, ever. I too would shoot it humanely. I wouldn't pay to have it euthanized, that's over $200 around here.

OP I hope you haven't read this thread, and I'm stunned that it hasn't been closed yet. I understand your venting, and I'm very sorry you had to witness poor Luna's attack. I don't argee with turning the dog loose (but I don't think you will really do that), but getting rid of it humanely is appropriate. There are enough good dogs out there that "cat killer" doesn't need to find it's way into unknowing hands to do the deed again.

[Calhoun]

I've been rewatching my old Triple Crown videos, just watched 1994. One of the main stories that year was Tabasco Cat, who had run over and came very near to killing Wayne Lukas' son, Jeff. Very severe head injury. 6 months after the accident, at the time of the TC races, Jeff was still attending rehab and hadn't gone back to work. He was not expected to survive at first. Wayne Lukas said in one of the interviews that he got the barn help together right afterward, while Jeff was still in a coma and looking very questionable for survival, and emphasized that nobody was going to blame the horse for this, and that they all would continue working with him just as before. It was a sad, tragic accident, but it wasn't the horse's fault.

One of my favorite quotes, "The good is never as good as the bad is bad", was quoted by Lucas after being asked how he felt when Tabasco Cat won a race.

[GreyHunterHorse]

I am SO SORRY for your loss. RIP kitty.

I'm sure someone will want to ban me for this comment, but I have to disagree with the "it's just a dog being a dog comment". I've had animals attacked by dogs and I don't think it's acceptable, ever. I too would shoot it humanely. I wouldn't pay to have it euthanized, that's over $200 around here.

OP I hope you haven't read this thread, and I'm stunned that it hasn't been closed yet. I understand your venting, and I'm very sorry you had to witness poor Luna's attack. I don't argee with turning the dog loose (but I don't think you will really do that), but getting rid of it humanely is appropriate. There are enough good dogs out there that "cat killer" doesn't need to find it's way into unknowing hands to do the deed again.