No god deed goes unpunished- RIP Luna

[Heinz 57]

She's an animal lover, or she would not have these pets in the first place.

By that rule, we would never have a need for shelters or rescues because everyone that owns a pet is an animal lover and would never BEAT or STARVE or ABANDON the animal! noooo.

Head in the sand much?

[anon123456]

Wow, your post is the worst thing I've heard in a very long time. And I don't mean the part about the dog killing your cat. I am very sorry that it happened, but the dog doesn't deserve to be kicked out on the street. YOU took the dog in, THE OWNERS have abandoned him with you, YOU accidentally let the cat out. And yet, you feel that its ok to let a dog starve to death, scared and alone? The dog was acting out of insticts. You, however, can think about your actions and still want to be a horrible person, which IMHO, makes you worse than the dog.

I felt bad when I started reading your post, now I just feel disgusted.

Agreed 100% I am totally disgusted that anyone could hold such hatred for an animal that they have cared for for months. To just turn it loose and let whatever happen happen is just as wrong as the original owner. And you would/should be held responsible for negligence/abandonment of the poor dog. If the original owner does not pick it up, take it to the vet and have it euthanized but do not simply throw it away!
I am disgusted and have no respect for you. I am sorry for the cat!

[Marshfield]

Hugs

[sketcher]

She's an animal lover, or she would not have these pets in the first place.

That's what all the hoarders say.

[CrazyGuineaPigLady]

And after that, and the dog's owner not stepping up? I get it. why continue to be the only one doing the right thing by the dog in this situation?

Because someone in this world has to! Just because the dog’s owner thinks throwing it on the streets is A-okay, it doesn’t make it right.

I agree! We would ALL feel this way if we cared at all about our furry family members. It's just that there are only A FEW here that will actually ADMIT it.

I will admit to wishing certain animals were no longer in my eyesight but I’ve never thought about doing them bodily harm or neglecting them altogether. “Bad” dogs (and a naughty foster cat I have right now) are furry family members, too, while in your care. Lulu is gone and unless there are other cats at risk, it’s purely revenge against an unsuspecting animal to do anything other than find them a better home.

[cloudyandcallie]

Wait a minute, Trakehner, we had a cother who bragged about killing (and eating) horses and bragged about killing stray cats and said he killed his own dog when it bit his daughter or granddaughter, i forget which.

OP should take it to vet and pay to have it euth-ed, as many have said here. And as others have said, since OP probably feels guilty for letting the cat get out of the house,she wants to punish the dog. And why post on coth if she doesn't want feedback?

As for horses harming animals? Not mine. I've always had the horses who were careful not to step on barn cats: who thought aggressive dogs were just trying to be friendly, etc. But I have been at barns where horses had previously killed dogs that got into pastures and paddocks. And my dogs do sometimes catch squirrels, but even old Quincy the 98 pound dude gives them to me and I raise them and turn them loose.

And it's nice to see the Christmas spirit have everyone turning on each other. Merry Christmas to all. Zu Zu needs to come back on and jingle for all.

BTW did anyone see the horses in California in the flooded paddocks up to their girths? Are all of our California cothers ok in the rain storms?

And, when a dog shakes a cat, it usually means a broken neck, so trying to give CPR is not going to help.

[asb_own_me]

no, but I am starting to think you need to fly down and get it yourself.You seem awful torn up about the whole thing

Tamara in TN

We need a "Like" button a la Facebook.

[fivehorses]

Elys Fields would never abandon and animal (I don't believe any COTH poster would ever abandon an animal) no matter how mad she was. It's just venting emotion from a loved cat being killed.

As someone noted, there are WAY too many lovely dogs and cats who need homes to ever put up with or tolerate an ill-behaved or psycho dog or cat. Euthanasia isn't evil or cruel...pity more horses running through meat auctions in PA and elsewhere didn't have owners honest and humane enough to put their poor horse down....but selfish enough to try and get every last nickel no matter how their horses suffered.

It's a hurt person releasing emotion...I'd suggest lightening up and some not getting holier-than-thou and I'm-above -such-emotions. None of us are.

are you fricking kidding me? Are you in that much denial? I know eff from pm's and emails. For her to state such a thing, makes me truly wonder the kind of person she is. But, more so, why your trakener would think someone is just venting.

we all know internet protocol...you are going to get slammed for not being politically correct, and eff has been slammed a lot regarding her horse mgt, and I HAVE DEFENDED HER AND CALLED MANY ON THIS BB A BULLY FOR THEIR ATTACKS ON HER.
Maybe they read her better than me. EFF, if you are reading this, I hope you are willing to do the right thing. otherwise, as I originally posted, you are no better than the scum who abandon horses.
Your authenticity is BS. If you harm this dog, you are scum, and you get to live with it.
trakener,do you know EFF, do you know for sure she is only venting?
I feel I know her a bit more than most from private pm's and emails, and wow, oh wow, I didn't think she had this in her. I guess we read people wrong?

[fivehorses]

no, but I am starting to think you need to fly down and get it yourself.You seem awful torn up about the whole thing

Tamara in TN

that is a bit nasty, Tamara. You posted earlier at your disgust, but have to now attack someone who thinks this is a deplorable way to treat an animal.
You just came down a few notches in my respect.

[fivehorses]

Oh for cripes sakes, the poor woman is grieving over her cat that was just killed.
Astonishing, absolutely no one here has wished death upon something that just turned your world upside down.

Look at the time of her post - 3:22 AM. Obviously this happened only hours before.

Sorry, but I cannot excuse anyone for venting like that.

I live alone, I have no one to vent to. But, I am certainly not going to come onto a BB and talk about abandoning an animal, or putting a shovel in its head.
Grief and anger are one thing, but what EFF posted is a bit more than that. She sounds rational and clear in her intent.

On top of that. I have horses, some I don't really care for. One tried to kill me thru a bite on my neck. Did I dump him, do I treat him poorly...NO. He gets treated the same as others. He was abused, and he reacted. Yes, I did think of euthanizing him, but I knew it was his mental illness...and no, I didn't need to exert my revenge.

Aside from that...this is a public forum. I would think people might get the fact that there is a certain 'decorum'. You don't say stupid stuff unless you want to be attacked.
This was beyond acceptable, and I consider EFF one of my 'coth' friends. I am not so sure anymore.

For anyone to find this ok, sorry, I guess I just don't feel you are in very much control of your own emotions that you feel it is ok to excuse or accept inappropriate comment or behavior.

What if someone said this to you in person...would you find this ok? Grief and things we say are one thing.
If EFF said, I want to kill this dog, I want to set it loose and abandon it. She did not choose those words...she made it very clear it wasn't thought, but action she was going to take...a very big difference.

[mvp]

Because someone in this world has to! Just because the dog’s owner thinks throwing it on the streets is A-okay, it doesn’t make it right.



I will admit to wishing certain animals were no longer in my eyesight but I’ve never thought about doing them bodily harm or neglecting them altogether. “Bad” dogs (and a naughty foster cat I have right now) are furry family members, too, while in your care. Lulu is gone and unless there are other cats at risk, it’s purely revenge against an unsuspecting animal to do anything other than find them a better home.

LuNa is gone now.

I agree with you-- passing the buck to the dog ain't right. I was just saying that I understood why the OP was not, at present, interested in being the one person vis-a-vis the owners who was going to stand up and do the right thing.

If I read it right, the owner's reaction, "he11-- just turn her loose then," would add to the frustration.

I won't comment on the "dogs will be dogs" part of the innocence of this one. I know opinions and tolerance for dogs who kill animals, bite people, chase livestock etc. vary.

[hitchinmygetalong]

I wasn't going to post this but decided to go ahead and do it.

"I believe" that my filly that is laid up right now with a severe limb injury, would not be in this position if it weren't for a crazy Arab mare I took in for free. She was advertised on the net and sounded absolutely wonderful. The owner fed me a huge line of bull about how spectacular this mare is. I agreed to take her sight unseen. She was on my farm 2 weeks and it was a total nightmare the entire time. I have never in my life seen such a mentally fried, screwed up horse.

The morning my filly was hurt, I had brought in one of my other mares to the barn, and the crazy Arab mare went BEZERK. She was so freaking herd bound she was dangerous. She was running the fence and screaming her head off, which got my filly excited and worried.

The filly started running around all hyper and next thing I knew she was hopping on 3 legs. She's now on 6 months stall rest, and one vet has suggested I euthanize her because she does not think she will heal.

In my heart I had a tiny bit of anger for that mare causing the filly's injury. But logically I knew that animals will be animals and that sometimes chyt happens. And really I was the only one to truly blame for taking in the horse in the first place. I cared for the mare to the best of my ability for another week until I drove her 5 hours back to where she came from.

Not at any time did I downgrade my level of care for that crazy mare. She got exactly the same care and attention every other horse did because I knew it wasn't her fault she was so nuts. Every day when she was spinning around and trying to double barrel kick my head off, I was setting out her bucket of grain and vitamin/mineral supplement.

Just because you have once again made a thread all about you, I would like to point out how interesting it is to see how the story changes, Auventera. Here is your original post on that now 4,672 page thread on your poor filly:

Nov. 14, 2010, 08:53 AM
Auventera Two
Schoolmaster

Join Date: Sep. 25, 2005
Location: The Land of the Frozen
Posts: 12,323
Acute lameness - broken bone, extensor tear, ???
Yesterday Le'Sorna went out with everyone else, running around bucking and playing like normal. They were a bit hyper from being inside due to freezing rain.

I went out with a load of manure and noticed her having a slight headbob, looked a bit off on the right front. Figured she strained something so I went out to feel for heat/swelling. There was none. Cleaned out hoof, looked fine. Could have stepped on a stone? <snip>

Not one word about the wacky mare. Not one. Just a story about horses acting goofy in the chilly weather and the filly going lame from one moment to the next.

And by the way, if your newest version is true, you are not the only person on the planet who has had an animal injured because of the actions of another. Believe it or not, forgiving an animal for being an animal is not an automatic "in" for sainthood or something.

Back to the trainwreck. I'm almost sorry I said anything way back on page 1....

[cloudyandcallie]

Oh crap, did I miss that on the other thread? That the mare did it? Pass the blame please.
I agree with everyone who says different people feel different ways about incidents like this (with the dog and cat, not with the filly is in pain, the fill is fine, etc.)
However, I am a firm believer in euth-ing unwanted animals rather than passing the buck to others or punishing the animal by torture. I've held lots of animals, unfortunately, while my vet euth-ed them and it's the best way to go, if an animal has to go.

[cutemudhorse]

I am so sorry for your loss. I understand completely. I would also find another place for the dog immediately.

Yes, I know it is just being a dog --- but it was your relationship with the cat that was special to you, the dog was a favor to a friend. You have your own path to walk. Let it be a dog elsewhere. I would not suggest that you just 'let it go' however!!! Try a rescue or AC if no one takes it.

[Tamara in TN]

that is a bit nasty, Tamara. You posted earlier at your disgust, but have to now attack someone who thinks this is a deplorable way to treat an animal.
You just came down a few notches in my respect.

well, that's all good too I guess....I just think that A2 is fanning flames or is it throwing coal in the engine box on a train ??(for why?? I don't know) and if she's so darned tore up,go get the dog and be done with it....

if that loses me respect with you,then that's ok as well....(said after two peach schnapps and an hour of Horse Hero videos...you should all try them they are great !!)

I'd have already gone and got the stupid thing as to have carried on so as she has...talk or walk I say...you make the choice...

after all A2 has people in TN who could get the dog by by morning if she wanted to....but to carry on is just silly....have your say and be done with it....

Tamara in TN

[fivehorses]

Lets put it out there. Ace or Aventura is not well liked by many of you.
All I see is now a personal attack on her, and a flip flop on your original comments...in order to attack or demean someone who is upset over the OP's comments and potential actions.
maybe its the peach schanapps or whatever you are drinking tamara. And, no, thank you, but a bit too sugary sweet for my taste.

[Moderator 1]

As this topic is understandably heated and not horse-related, we're going to close the thread.

Best wishes to the OP for getting through the difficult situation without further suffering for any parties.

Mod 1