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Sick of seeing this at auctions- a vent

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  • Sick of seeing this at auctions- a vent

    Let alone old school horses and the like, I'm so sick of seeing weanlings and yearlings at these auctions or even people threatening to send them to auction. Why are these babies even being bred? It breaks my heart. I feel for the few and far between who actually fall into a serious rut and I know our economy is in the sh**ter (excuse my language!), but come on now? And don't get me started on cats and dogs I need coffee.

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    Yeah, and given the fact that these horse were bred *after* the the start of the Great Depression of the 21st century, WTF?

    August, 2008.... October, 1929....what's the difference?
    The armchair saddler
    Politically Pro-Cat

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      #3
      I'm confused as to what you mean?

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        Originally posted by ksetrider View Post
        I'm confused as to what you mean?
        I mean that the start of our current economic crisis was talked about a great deal as of August, 2008. The crash of the New York Stock exchange happened in late October, 1929.

        This means that anyone breeding during the 2009 season should have seen the writing on the wall.

        History taught this lesson, too for anyone who at least knows what The New Deal was. There are many economists and others who argued that the Crash of 1929 indicated an extreme but short term problem. By 1932? Not so much....
        The armchair saddler
        Politically Pro-Cat

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          #5
          Ah gotcha! well I concur totally. It makes me so sad to see a weanling at an auction. Seriously? I don't buy the "well the stallion hopped the fence" excuse. I guess I could also be the ignorant one for not understanding how this happens so often. How does a 10 month along pregnant mare end up at an auction? Why was she originally bred? Sooooo many questions.

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          • #6
            A stallion did actually hop the fence and breed my mare. It does actually happen, just perhaps not with great regularity.

            Still not dumping my foal at an auction. That obnoxious colt that bred my mare, well, he's lucky I can't eat him myself. (not mine, but then again if he were mine, it wouldn't have happened in the first place)

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            • #7
              Sometimes a breeder will plan for the long term....changes in the market for my type of horse for instance have changed from buyers looking mostly for weanlings and yearlings to looking for long yearlings to short two year olds.... a year to a year and a half longer for the breeder to hold them. IF someone had been thinking along those lines and then run into some kind of financial crisis (job loss, health disaster etc) they might be forced to move these youngsters long before they planned to. Not saying this is what you are seeing....it could just as easily be the folks that bought horses when prices first began dropping and thought they'd breed foals to recoup their "investment" in their stock...several of those locally. They bought reasonably bred stock that was on the market when prices began falling. They did so because they'd "always wanted to get into breeding" and hadn't been able to find decently bred stock at prices they could afford (or would pay) until the prices dropped. Then they bought, bred as quickly as possible and now have foals that they can't sell and can't keep for two years.

              I have two foals carrying over from '08, none from '09, and one from this year. The '08 colts will be gelded later this winter/early spring and be ready to go. I do have foals coming in '11 but with better pedigrees and also have now expanded by sales contacts to several people who can market them in S. America and Europe for me (and have the quality to go there....I too bought when prices dropped but with a specific goal in mind...top bloodline mares, producing mares). Not everyone that bred in the last couple years is an idiot. In the events that I breed for there are age specific events... so if there are good quality, well bred animals approaching those age groups there is still a market. Just have to adjust your marketing schedules.
              Colored Cowhorse Ranch
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              • #8
                In my area, it works this way:

                Owner has a farm with riding horses. In order to qualify as a farm and get farm property tax rates, he needs to be a breeder. Guy wants to save $2000.00 a year in taxes, so breeds one or more of his mares to his neighbours stallion for a couple hundred dollars. Doesn't really want them, so sents them to auction when weaned and before the grass dies. Sells them for $50-100.00 each. Not enough to pay for the stud fee, but with the tax saving considered, it does make fancial sense.

                Or the breeder that has mares, and has a stallion, and realizes they should downsize, but figures a bred mare will sell better than a barren mare, so breeds...but then can't sell her...so sells babies at auction.

                just two things I see happenning.
                Freeing worms from cans everywhere!

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