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  • #21
    Awww, Come on ladies. You all know half the world are total idiots, and the other half are borderline. It is only you and me that are really wise and all knowing.
    Unfortunately we are a declining clique.
    In school there will be no need of writing and using a computer keyboard. Why?, because the computers will do everything by voice recognition. You just talk and the computer writes it out!
    Oh won't that be interesting with the slang we have now?
    JMHO
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    • #22
      Originally posted by TheJenners View Post
      Because that statement isn't judgmental
      Nope! Not in the least!
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      • #23
        Originally posted by DeeThbd View Post
        Nope! Not in the least!
        It's being judgemental toward people who are being judgemental. It's like a double negative. They cancel each other out.
        Originally posted by tidy rabbit
        Oh, well, clearly you're not thoroughly indoctrinated to COTH yet, because finger pointing and drawing conclusions are the cornerstones of this great online community.

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        • #24
          I'm totally judgemental. But not to those who are newbies, say things like 'he bucked me' or color match their horse to death. I remember being a newby and some of the stupid things I said, even though it was decades ago now, I don't know how my trainers didn't laugh in my face sometimes.

          I AM however, totally judgemental of those who put themselves up to be 'experts' and professionals and have all kinds of experience. Either online or in person, especially online. In person, I can deal with that kind pretty swiftly. It's the online experts who continually post inaccurate, dangerous and sometimes just plain stupid stuff that I'm totally judgemental about. And those who don't learn from their internet or IRL mistakes, I reserve special judgements for those. And we have some of these here. And yes I am judging them now.

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          • #25
            ok, the horse "giving head"? I'm still laughing about that one.

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            • #26
              I try not to be judgmental. If someone's horsemanship is poor and the animal is suffering from it, I'll do my best to correct things, but I generally assume people are coming from a place of ignorance rather than intentional disregard. And many things I see--poor quality hay, ill fitting tack, etc. simply cannot be fixed (or cannot be fixed immediately--a decent saddle can cost 1-2 months' salary at typical wages in this area), as in my area many are quite poor but horses are a way of life. I don't like it, but then, the owners are often in the same boat themselves (can only afford cheap overprocessed food, their homes in poor condition, wearing clothing until it absolutely falls apart, etc.) and in most cases I still think it's better than a short trip to Mexico, which would be the fate of many of the horses I see if they were sold.

              In other words, as long as the horses are in good weight, get necessary farrier and veterinary care, and aren't abused, well, I may not like it and will do my best to help the situation, but I don't demonize the owners or judge them as people. I used to be a lot more judgmental, but the reality of working in one of the poorest areas of the US has caused me to look at things in a little less of a black-and-white way.

              I definitely try not to judge anyone's fashion sense, aside from "oh I want one" or "I don't think that's quite my style..." I figure it takes all kinds to make the world go 'round. Also I like bright things and fun patterns so I've probably inspired a few whispered catty remarks in my time...

              edit: I've been thinking about this, and people I really judge harshly are those who have the means to improve things but don't. I really have trouble with people who can do better, but don't because they want to save a few bucks and/or they just don't care.

              Also, I'm curious...what kind of usernames are unacceptable? Mine's a bit silly, but is my favorite horse's nickname. I've seen many other light-hearted names, but none like LiLPrInCeSs69 or whatever...that's about the only type I might raise an eyebrow at.
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              • #27
                Originally posted by atr View Post
                The colt and stud thing is totally regional. That's like cringing over someone's accent.

                Usernames. Those are something I get judgemental about.
                Yup. There are some posters that I just can't take seriously because of their usernames.

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                • #28
                  I am confused by the snobbery over "he bucked me." I mean, you would know exactly what they were saying. What are they supposed to say, he bucked and I came off? I think that's really nitpicky.

                  The only people I judge are those people that just are never wrong. They know everything, can ride anything, can fix any horse, have no bad habits. You know what I'm talking about. The supposed grand prix dressage riders who have a trailer on 2 acres and a muddy pen full of ponyxArabxTBxPaint...things. There have been numerous occasions where a "trainer" has been going on and on about their amazing skillz and I just want to rudely blurt out "Then what the @#$% are you doing HERE riding THAT?"

                  I only judge those people because they are usually "teaching" other ignorant (I mean ignorant in the purest sense) people how to ride and care for horses, when they are seriously lacking in knowledge. Oh, the circle of stupid, it moves us all.

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                  • #29
                    [QUOTE=alg0181;5272310]I am confused by the snobbery over "he bucked me." I mean, you would know exactly what they were saying. What are they supposed to say, he bucked and I came off? I think that's really nitpicky.


                    How about "he assisted me in my flying dismount" lol


                    The only people I judge are those people that just are never wrong. They know everything, can ride anything, can fix any horse, have no bad habits. You know what I'm talking about. The supposed grand prix dressage riders who have a trailer on 2 acres and a muddy pen full of ponyxArabxTBxPaint...things. There have been numerous occasions where a "trainer" has been going on and on about their amazing skillz and I just want to rudely blurt out "Then what the @#$% are you doing HERE riding THAT?"



                    I only judge those people because they are usually "teaching" other ignorant (I mean ignorant in the purest sense) people how to ride and care for horses, when they are seriously lacking in knowledge. Oh, the circle of stupid, it moves us all.[/QUOTE
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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by CFFarm View Post
                      Anyone who really "knows" can look at a horse and rider and size up the knowledge and experience of both in usually a glance. Then they move on.
                      This. And if I see a kid who is doing it right I always tell them good for you.
                      The cue card kid just held up an empty cue card. For a minute there I thought I had lost my sense of humor. --- Red Skelton

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                      • #31
                        I try to not judge by the written word, as depending on where were from, we speak and talk differently and what one would may mean one thing to me, someone else may say it another way using another word, but it means the same thing. Like relatives and kin, hello and howdy, etc...

                        But nah, not as judgmental as the OP seems to be, why? I am not any better or worse a rider that my friends, if I can help someone, be them young or old, I would rather do so with good graces and a nice manner then roll my eyes or be snarky and rude. My mama brought me up to have manners and try to be polite when with others, that is just me though, for whatever it is worth.
                        "Promise me you'll always remember: your braver than you believe, and stronger than you seem, and smarter than you think." By Christopher Robins to Pooh

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                        • #32
                          I've always found that the people who have the most "advice", generally unsolicitated and ususally wrong, know the least. The first people who bitch about something being done wrong or not their way are know it alls who end up looking stupid in the long run. I'm not talking safety issues either!

                          For instance-

                          A woman at my barn says that she doesn't need her horse to collect properly as he "does it on voice command" therefore, she doesnt need to ask properly. She says "put your head down" and he does. She is always the first to offer a solution to everything. I just nod and smile (and roll my eyes when I walk away).

                          I really want to scream at one rider I know who claims her horse is the best jumper/dressage horse/WP horse. She tells everyone how to ride, how much she (over)paid for her horse and how she could "beat the pants off anyone" at a rated dressage show.

                          In reality, her horse is a confo nightmare, gangly and awkward and an ass to boot. He has yet to clear a fence with out a hanging knee, get on the bit and is physically UNABLE to collect properly due to a goose rump. But I just nod and smile. Nod and smile.

                          Whats that phrase? On the outside I may be smiling, but in my head, I've killed you three times? LOL

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                          • #33
                            For the good of the horse

                            I'll play. There was a time when all of us here didn't know jack. I openly hearken back to the times when I had my first horse and I swear, my heart hurts for the way I kept that poor mare because I (nor my parents) knew any better.

                            Even my vets didn't say, "You know you should look into getting either straw bedding or bag shavings instead of wood chips you found on the fire trail because those wood chips are sharp and they don't absorb much moisture and you need to build a bed for your horse to encourage her to lie down from time to time. Because there's no way she can comfortably lie down in that rocky little 'corral' your daddy built you." Nope, they just delivered their service and turned a blind eye. I do remember them suggesting we give more hay though. She had no grazing whatsoever because our front yard was not fenced in and rope burns were the alternative.

                            Anyway, I have since worked for top barns and trainers and I know better. But I know better from reading and observing or by someone I worked for saying, "Do it like this" and my following it to the letter. But no one ever had the decency to share their knowledge when they saw all of the obviously wrong things I did. I hate that.

                            So, I suggest all of you who have an eye for the 'correct' or the best way to do something, try to find a nice, supporting way to share your knowledge and advice without hurting the not-as-knowledgeable. It is for the good of the horse.

                            "If you have the time, spend it. If you have a hand, lend it. If you have the money, give it. If you have a heart, share it." by me

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                            • #34
                              The colt thing drives me nuts.
                              No matter what your accent, a colt is NEVER a baby horse.
                              sorry.

                              just like some Texan's say "y'all" (singular)
                              or "all y'all" (plural).
                              sorry, that's just redneck to a whole'nother level.
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                              • #35
                                I'm not.

                                Except for when I see a fat person on a skinny horse. Then I automatically assume that the are an idiot and that I will avoid speaking to them at all costs so as to avoid sounding like the meanest person on earth. I do not like seeing skinny horses alone, but when the owner/rider is overweight, I really can't take it.

                                Otherwise, I'm nice, jovial, and passive.

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                                • #36
                                  I'm almost too non judgmental.

                                  To me, I only really have the capability to know myself and what I feel, so if I end up judging other people, I'm only judging myself.

                                  *shrugs*
                                  Let us eat, drink, and be merry. For tomorrow we die.

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                                  • #37
                                    Originally posted by acoustic View Post
                                    I'm not.

                                    Except for when I see a fat person on a skinny horse. Then I automatically assume that the are an idiot and that I will avoid speaking to them at all costs so as to avoid sounding like the meanest person on earth. I do not like seeing skinny horses alone, but when the owner/rider is overweight, I really can't take it.

                                    Otherwise, I'm nice, jovial, and passive.
                                    That's why I keep buying fatter and fatter horses.
                                    Originally posted by tidy rabbit
                                    Oh, well, clearly you're not thoroughly indoctrinated to COTH yet, because finger pointing and drawing conclusions are the cornerstones of this great online community.

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                                    • #38
                                      Originally posted by ExJumper View Post
                                      That's why I keep buying fatter and fatter horses.


                                      I'm 5'10" and...um...not thin. Think Michael Phelps' shoulders. Amazon woman. I am always so paranoid that I look like the Hulk on smallish horses.

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                                      • #39
                                        Originally posted by purplnurpl View Post
                                        just like some Texan's say "y'all" (singular)
                                        or "all y'all" (plural).
                                        sorry, that's just redneck to a whole'nother level.
                                        Awesome. Wonder if I could change my name to Dr. Redneck? Would all y'all mind?



                                        I think most of us can be judgmental at times - I know I don't mean to be and try not to be. But I don't understand being judgmental and proud of it. Being rude and condescending and looking down on people isn't something to be proud of....
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                                        • #40
                                          [QUOTE=CFFarm;5272353]
                                          Originally posted by alg0181 View Post
                                          I am confused by the snobbery over "he bucked me." I mean, you would know exactly what they were saying. What are they supposed to say, he bucked and I came off? I think that's really nitpicky.
                                          Originally posted by alg0181 View Post


                                          How about "he assisted me in my flying dismount" lol


                                          The only people I judge are those people that just are never wrong. They know everything, can ride anything, can fix any horse, have no bad habits. You know what I'm talking about. The supposed grand prix dressage riders who have a trailer on 2 acres and a muddy pen full of ponyxArabxTBxPaint...things. There have been numerous occasions where a "trainer" has been going on and on about their amazing skillz and I just want to rudely blurt out "Then what the @#$% are you doing HERE riding THAT?"



                                          I only judge those people because they are usually "teaching" other ignorant (I mean ignorant in the purest sense) people how to ride and care for horses, when they are seriously lacking in knowledge. Oh, the circle of stupid, it moves us all.[/QUOTE
                                          The only problem with that (though I see your point) is that sometimes money runs out and all you can afford is what you described.
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