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Mice in the grain at Maker's Mark Secretariat Center

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  • #61
    Originally posted by Midge View Post
    Bait with pecans, since that's what brought the little bastages into my house.
    Okay, Midge, you owe me a keyboard!
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    • #62
      I hope that the folks at the MMSC can take this thread as a learning experience and look to improve their horse management skills. I think that most posters, myself included, recognize that mice do exist in barns and could reasonably get in a grain bin at some point. (Though I admit, it would never occur to me to NOT use rodent proof bins.)

      What is disturbing is the ignorant and cavalier attitude about it. Sorry, but it is just bizarre to brag about having rodents in your feed. Isn't it common knowledge that rodents and wildlife (raccoons, opossums) DO present a health hazard to both horses and people? For goodness sakes, admit that mice in the feed is a problem (and I'm sorry, but having trained mice in your feed bin each morning IS an infestation).

      While I don't think that mice in the feed bins is an emergency, I also would not consider donating to this rescue for this reason. What other health hazards are they ignoring? What other bad management is going on? C'mon, trying--at least TRYING--to keep rodents out of the feed is basic common sense.

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      • #63
        23 years in horses, I have never once found a mouse in a grain bin at my barn.

        Thank god.

        ETA: That is because although they are cute, they are disease carrying and don't want their poop in my bins, so I buy rodent proof containers.
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        • #64
          Barns and grain will naturally entice mice and rats,however, I certainly wouldn't brag about it!

          We have sealed feed bins for grain and feed and try to keep things sealed and sanitary, but even spilled grain in stalls will draw rodents.

          Let's hear it for barn cats!

          Just about the time you brag that you have no mice, a barn cat will bring you a little carcass to show you how clever they are at catching them!

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          • #65
            Originally posted by nuts4cowboybutts View Post
            Barns and grain will naturally entice mice and rats,however, I certainly wouldn't brag about it!

            We have sealed feed bins for grain and feed and try to keep things sealed and sanitary, but even spilled grain in stalls will draw rodents.

            Let's hear it for barn cats!

            Just about the time you brag that you have no mice, a barn cat will bring you a little carcass to show you how clever they are at catching them!
            Just because you don't see the little boogers does not mean they are not there.

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            • #66
              I really hope the ramblings on a blog does not impact the donations or the ability of the center to help the horses. I think in this day and age, people feel the need to write and post their thoughts on the internet. It is just what you do, right ( thus forums exists)? Maybe the mice blogger was trying to be cute and expressive with writing thus did not think of the how the blog would be translated. Problem with the internet is that anyones ramblings are there forever for all to see and refer back to. So hoping that the consequence of someones blog does not not effect the OTTBs.

              I helped get a rescue organized for a year once they got their own farm. Most volunteers have little horse experience but huge hearts. Thus they missed some, what I consider, common sense things especially when it came to the public and how experienced vs non-experience horse people view things. Could be the case here. We found mice in the barn before we even moved in ( former owner did not keep a clean barn ) so we welcomed the cats first but one volunteer wanted to do humane traps and then turn the mice loose in the field. Took some time to explain that mouse would just come back and that the cat/mouse relationship is very natural and normal. It is all okay.

              I have a small farm and 2...now 3 barn cats ( semi-wild young one that moved in). I never see mice but I am sure they are somewhere. I have a huge field next to me with hawks and eagles always over there thus critters are around. And then I find the half eaten mice carcass on the lawn. That is always nice. So mice exist and will always. They just need to be controlled and feed protected. I have garbage cans with locking lids for all feed and those sliding organization bins for smaller containers, brushes ect. Keeps dust out to!
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              • #67
                Wow, just wow!

                I'm soft hearted and I can't bring myself to trap and kill mice. I do have barn cats and I have trapped and relocated mice. I can't imagine thinking that having mice around feed is a cute and harmless thing. Also, who in their right mind thinks that they only have one or two mice because that's how many they've seen at one time?!
                Y'all ain't right!

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Ghazzu View Post
                  I have a rodent proof grain bin.
                  IME, they're pretty common to find in barns.
                  yeah, and for us poor folks they are called "30 gallon metal trash cans with lids"

                  I have three,one for the oats,one for the Ultium Growth and one for the soybean meal....

                  AND three cats who sleep happily in the heated 12x12 tack/feed combination (complete with litter box ) all winter long to keep any hopefuls at bay...

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                  • #69
                    I have those rodent proof grain bins too
                    Those things are great - I have never, ever had rodents in my grain!!
                    Y'all ain't right!

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Tamara in TN View Post
                      yeah, and for us poor folks they are called "30 gallon metal trash cans with lids"



                      Tamara in TN

                      I have those too I wish I could have barn cats, but the coyotes here just pick them off Haven't had a mouse problem, but I think the hawks and owls are taking care of them. My JR would like to help

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                      • #71
                        Here's another post made by another volunteer

                        ugh. I just read this all and am seriously considering making an account and saying something. sure, theres mice. but is it like we haven't already tried? I remeber last winter when we put that poison out, and then we had to deal with the b...ody count. and there are not nearly enough to come close to what last year was.

                        can i just go drag them all to MMSC so they can see for themselves


                        So much for their live and let live motto.

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                        • #72
                          Oh, for pete's sake, "body count?" If you have so many dead mice from poison baits that it's actually a problem, you have a serious mouse issue.

                          And yeesh, it's just a dead mouse. I don't poison them (I would be afraid of the cats getting the carcass) and the snap traps are messy but but in the winter if I don't trap them, the little buggers get into my house. It's not that big a deal to toss a body. It's just a dead animal and a small one to boot.
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by spotted draft x filly View Post
                            Here's another post made by another volunteer

                            ugh. I just read this all and am seriously considering making an account and saying something. sure, theres mice. but is it like we haven't already tried? I remeber last winter when we put that poison out, and then we had to deal with the b...ody count. and there are not nearly enough to come close to what last year was.

                            can i just go drag them all to MMSC so they can see for themselves


                            So much for their live and let live motto.

                            "WE TRIED NOTHING, MAN AND WE ARE ALL OUT OF IDEAS!!!"

                            (thank you, The Simpsons writer team for another priceless quote)

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                            • #74
                              Where are you digging up the comments? I can't find them....
                              Nudging "Almost Heaven" a little closer still...
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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Belg View Post
                                Where are you digging up the comments? I can't find them....
                                Heck, the Maker's Mark etc fb page is now set to friends only so I have to get them to friend me to see anything.
                                Is the fb page an actual expression of the nfp business or not?
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                                • #76
                                  Those kids on the Facebook REALLY need to simmer down and realize the reputation they're giving the center.

                                  How unfortunate.

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                                  • #77
                                    LOL, I like how on one hand it's all "the scampering mice are our pets and they are life and we must respect them", and on the other someone (volunteer?) is posting about a "body count" from the poison.

                                    At least get everybody on message first, people!
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                                    • #78
                                      I wish one of two things would happen. The name "Secretariat" would be dropped from this center so that his fantastic name isn't connected with this touchy feely rubbish. Or two, the current kids(adults?) in charge allowing this were fired from the center and then put some real grownups in charge of it.

                                      I can't imagine any horse farm tolerating mice in the grain storage.

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                                      • #79
                                        Originally posted by canterhavenfarm View Post
                                        Maybe the mice blogger was trying to be cute and expressive with writing thus did not think of the how the blog would be translated.
                                        This could be, it's hard to denote the tone of others' words on the net, but the subsequent replies of supposed members were enough to let everyone know the truth.

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                                        • #80
                                          I kinda feel like buying them some of those Rat Zappers we've been discussing on that rat killing thread.
                                          Michael: Seems the people who burned me want me for a job.
                                          Sam: A job? Does it pay?
                                          Michael: Nah, it's more of a "we'll kill you if you don't do it" type of thing.
                                          Sam: Oh. I've never liked those.

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