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  • Good books for rider fear

    I'm looking for some good sports psych books for riders... I'm a terribly timid rider and really trying to work on it.

    I have The Rider's Edge and absolutely love it, and was hoping that there may be a few others out there that can help.

    Thanks.

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    Jane Savoie "That Winning Feeling " and "It's Not About the Ribbons" She also has a DVD program "Freedom From Fear"
    I wasn't always a Smurf
    Penmerryl's Sophie RIDSH
    "I ain't as good as I once was but I'm as good once as I ever was"
    The ignore list is my friend. It takes 2 to argue.

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    • #3
      Another vote for It's Not Just About the Ribbons by Jane Savoie.
      I'm not ignoring the rules. I'm interpreting the rules. Tamal, The Great British Baking Show

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      • #4
        The Gift by Barbra Schulte.

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        • #5
          Being a timid rider too, I feel your pain.

          While books are good, they are no substitute for riding a horse you trust, and learning from an instructor you trust who pushes you a little but not too much. Regarding being pushed a little, when you accomplish something you thought you couldn't it takes away a lot of fear doing what you thought you could (ie, your trainer pushes you to jump a 2-ft crossrail - then the 18" crossrails you had been doing for the past month that used to give you butterflys don't seem so scary anymore).

          I did read a book called "Overcoming the Fear of Riding" by Jordan and De Michele. It helped me feel I was not alone, which in and of itself, gave me confidence. I think it had some visualization exercises that I did off the horse that helped, as well. It was not one of those touchy-feely books. Definitely worth looking into.

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          • #6
            The DVD/CD set "Freedom from Fear" by Jane Savoie, mentioned above, is really good. It gives you lots of different approaches so you can find what works best for you. And being able to hear someone talk about it, rather than just reading a book, helped me absorb more I think.
            Riding a horse is not a gentle hobby, to be picked up and laid down like a game of solitaire. It is a grand passion.... ~ Emerson

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            • #7
              I have been very timid at different points, and I have gotten more out of spending time with trustworthy critters (both under saddle and on the ground) and building confident memories than any reading or talking ever helped.

              And when something goes perfectly well, and you calmly perform your job, make a point of stopping and telling yourself -- see, I did that, and it was just fine. Take note of all the times that your riding is confident and competent and uneventful.
              I tolerate all kinds of animal idiosyncrasies.
              I've found that I don't tolerate people idiosyncrasies as well. - Casey09

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              • #8
                I am glad you started this thread, SirGali.

                I agree with what Lori B says; what has helped me most is just getting out to the barn and spending time with the trustworthy horse. That is the best advice I can offer too.

                I am dealing with similar issues to yours again now, having the offers of 3 friends' horses to ride but being too scared to get up on them -- different tack, taller horses, outdoor arenas.

                I tend to be pretty acrophobic up on a tall/unfamiliar horse (as well as up on a ladder, table, chair, etc.). If I can be distracted by a lesson/trusted and sympathetic trainer/coach, this goes away, but I don't have such a person right now.

                If anyone has any ideas to help with that, I'd like to know!
                Founder of the People Who Prefer COTH Over FB Clique
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                  #9
                  I'm lucky in that my horse is very well suited for me - he pushes me in the right way and he takes care of me in the right way. He has his way of being stupid and "crazy" - taking off at a collected 2nd level canter, for one - and while that seems silly and it seems like not what I need, he really helps me. I can ride him through everything he throws at me, and he really is a good boy.

                  My problem now is riding him outside of the arena - trails, in the fields, etc. It's me, not him. I've had some bad experiences out in the open (not with him), and when he feels me getting nervous he picks up on it. He is almost perfect, but after twenty minutes of me being a nervous wreck he gets upset, too. Totally understandable.

                  I was working on it with two riding buddies - going out at a walk, etc with their dead quiet horses, but one of the horses is now lame and the other woman moved to a new barn, so I'm kind of stranded.

                  Reading really helps me when I'm not at the barn, so I thank you all for the suggestions.

                  I saw that Freedom From Fear website but it looked like a scam, glad to hear it is not!

                  Thank you all!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Wellspotted View Post
                    I am glad you started this thread, SirGali.

                    I am dealing with similar issues to yours again now, having the offers of 3 friends' horses to ride but being too scared to get up on them -- different tack, taller horses, outdoor arenas.

                    If anyone has any ideas to help with that, I'd like to know!
                    Over the summer I got on a horse I swore I'd never get on - he was a horse my friend leased and he was NUTS when she first got him. One month into the lease, my other daredevil friend got on him and didn't feel like she could control him enough to canter.

                    He was a good boy, just WAY above my level of riding. He was a jumper through and through - run fast jump high! with no time for relaxing.

                    She did a great job getting him to chill, and finally peer-pressured me into getting on.

                    I ended up trotting him around on the buckle on the last day of her three-month lease.

                    I started off with her holding on to him, then walking next to me, then holding on again as we trotted, then jogging next to us as we trotted, and eventually she moved herself a few feet away. It was a huge accomplishment and made me realize "Hey, I can do this."

                    The most frustrating part is knowing I'm a good rider and can really ride this stuff. I have a seat like glue but got into a habit of bailing from scary situations after being taken off with backwards, outside.

                    Being outside is really my biggest issue. If I have walls, I'm good - MOST of the time.

                    What's helped me the most is having friends go out with me - first time I rode Gali outside after a pretty bad experience, my friend walked him while I did arm stretches and twists and things like that from his back. Then she let go, but stayed nearby. That kind of thing really helps, because if it all goes to hell, I felt like I had a backup. By the time I settled down and realized he was fine, she backed off and I was riding again.

                    The baby steps helped me, and even if you don't have a trainer, see if you can have a friend just hang out and talk to you next to the horse while you get comfy.

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                    • #11
                      You sound so much like me. About the walls most of the time, and about riding outdoors. I wish we could ride in the same indoor together.

                      As I read your post I remembered the day about 4 years ago when I got up on my friend's super-tall guy (ca 16.3) for a lesson at our barn. Halfway into the half-hour lesson I was walking Tall Guy around on the buckle, IN the little outdoor arena, relaxed as I've ever been. We did not trot, but that's because Tall Guy has a very big dressage trot and I had been used to a QH jog.

                      Founder of the People Who Prefer COTH Over FB Clique
                      People Who Hate to Rush to Kill Wildlife Clique!
                      "I Sing Silly Songs to My Animals!" Clique

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                      • #12
                        The book , Yoga For Equestrians is very good - exercises to do on the ground (anywhere) or mounted - some with a helper holding or leading your horse. It's not about fear per se, but yoga techniques are helpful with anxiety. Best wishes!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SirGali View Post

                          I saw that Freedom From Fear website but it looked like a scam, glad to hear it is not!
                          I thought the same thing when I first looked it up. I really wish she'd change it - that website is horrible. But the program is not! It's great and has a ton of ideas and techniques you can use, from visualization techniques you do off the horse to training you can do with your horse. Highly recommend it.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SirGali View Post
                            My problem now is riding him outside of the arena - trails, in the fields, etc. It's me, not him. I've had some bad experiences out in the open (not with him), and when he feels me getting nervous he picks up on it. He is almost perfect, but after twenty minutes of me being a nervous wreck he gets upset, too. Totally understandable.
                            How about riding outside for 5 minutes at a time, after you ride in the ring?
                            Then 10 minutes next week, but stop (note, not quit) before things get the slightest bit hairy

                            And keep a riding diary with only positive entries IOW "Today was a great day. We had a super ride in the arena and then we went out in the field to cool down. It's breezy and warm and horse marched along on a loose rein. Shee has such a nice free walk, really swinging with a huge overstep"
                            I wasn't always a Smurf
                            Penmerryl's Sophie RIDSH
                            "I ain't as good as I once was but I'm as good once as I ever was"
                            The ignore list is my friend. It takes 2 to argue.

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                            • #15
                              I'm just glad SirGali started this thread. I've started doing yoga since reading DeeDeeDee's post about the book on yoga for riding, and the exercises have made me feel a lot better, more limber, less pain, easier movement, more confidence, more relaxed ...

                              I'm looking forward to seeing how it is going to affect my riding, next time the weather is good and I have the chance to ride a horse I know and trust.
                              Founder of the People Who Prefer COTH Over FB Clique
                              People Who Hate to Rush to Kill Wildlife Clique!
                              "I Sing Silly Songs to My Animals!" Clique

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                              • #16
                                Look for Kelly Marks' books. She has a good systematic, real world approach to fear based issues of horses and riders.

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                                • #17
                                  "Heads Up" by Dr. Janet Edgette and "That Winning Feeling", (as another poster suggested) have both worked for me when I have had issues.
                                  When in Doubt, let your horse do the Thinking!

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Waterwitch View Post
                                    Look for Kelly Marks' books. She has a good systematic, real world approach to fear based issues of horses and riders.
                                    Does she have a new one? I have Perfect Partners and Perfect Manners but I don't remember either of them dealing with rider fear.
                                    I'm not ignoring the rules. I'm interpreting the rules. Tamal, The Great British Baking Show

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                                    • #19
                                      Wellspotted, I'm so glad the yoga idea was helpful! I too am struggling with rider anxiety, yoga helps both physically and mentally.

                                      Thanks also to Sir Gali for recommending the book The Riders Edge- very helpful, and one I'd never before heard of. One thing the author said that really hit home was that you shouldn't try to force yourself to not be anxious, that doesn't work and may only make you feel worse, because it doesn't work! Instead just accept that there will be some anxiety and try to work with it and work through it (hope I'm explaining that correctly).

                                      Best wishes to all.

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                                      • #20
                                        I also like Kelly Marks and her book entitled Build Complete Confidence with Horses.
                                        The aids are the legs, the hands, the weight of the rider, the whip, the caress, the voice and the use of extraneous circumstances. ~ General Decarpentry
                                        www.reflectionsonriding.com

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