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My experience with a horse communicator

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  • My experience with a horse communicator

    There's been several post about horse communicators, but I'll start a new one with my experience. We had an AC come out this past weekend to do a reading on our two horses and the neighbor's horse for fun. We didn't tell her anything about the horses.

    We brought up our new DW for the first reading. The AC commented at how pretty she was, and then she got a taken aback look and replied that that our DW told her that she was tired of people telling her how pretty she is and that there is a lot more to her than her looks. She feels overly confident in her abilities to the point that she will not accept responsibility for some rider issues that she was causing: The DW mentioned that my daughter was coming down on the pommel and pinching her withers and that she thought my daughter was an unbalance rider. My daughter's trainer was there, as she lives next door and commented that this was happening, but the reason my daughter was unbalance was the the DW was pulling her head forward and yanking my daughter forward.

    The DW said she liked her previous rider in that she was a stronger rider and really knew what she was doing. AC got the impression that this person was a trainer. The folks we bought the DW from was selling her because their daughter injured herself and could not ride, so they've been having a trainer get the DW in shape.

    DW commented that she likes smells and that she likes her corral because is light and airy (pipe corral with a semi box stall with plywood wind breaks. She said she was put in a dark place which she didn't like other than it was warm and she liked the warmth. We live in Southern Calif so we don't have harsh winters. We got the DW from Canada, and the previous owners would put the horses in box stalls for the winter. AC didn't know this.

    DW complained that she was always hungry. DW used to be in a pasture and free feed. Now she's gets fed three times a day, but she can't eat all day. DW told us that she LOVES the hot mash my wife makes for her after we take her out. AC had no idea we make hot mash for the horses.

    We asked about the DW spooking around other horses. DW responded that a man riding a brown horse lost control of the horse and they ran into the DW scaring her and hurting her right shoulder. Trying to verify this with the previous owners.

    When asked about our pony, the AC said, "Oh, the gelding?" He was in his box stall with only his head showing. The DW said that the pony was full of himself and that she was getting tired of him - thinks he's hot stuff.

    When the pony was read, this is what the AC told us:

    Pony is upset that everyone fusses over the DW. He actually turns his back to us when we put the DW in the cross ties. First show that my daughter did after we got the DW, the pony refused the first jump in everyone of her classes then jumped all the rest perfectly, as if saying: "See, I can do it, if you're nice to me."

    Pony was said that my daughter is leaving him for the DW. He sees her getting bigger, but still thinks she's not too big for him (This could easily be seen by an untrained person).

    When asked what the pony thought of me (5'8' male about 160 pound), the pony responded that he loves having me ride him for several reasons. One being that he likes to show that he can carry a "big man" with the other ponies don't do. He also like it that I'm a novice rider and that when we go out on the trail, he can get away with "snacking" along the way. He also likes it that I don't make him bend to the left (We had him checked out by a chiropractor a while back and he seems to be tight on the right side, which affects how he bends to the left).

    The pony told the AC that he pinched me. At the time of the reading I thought that she meant that he had bitten me, which he has done several times. After I got home I remembered that we were going though the metal gate of the arena and my leg got pinched between the pony and the gate, causing a pretty large gash in my leg.

    On a more humorous note, the neighbor told us of her reading as we had to leave. Her horse like peace and quite and things that are calm. Her horse dislikes how our two horses are always bickering. The horse also dislikes a little 5 year old shetland pony because she never shuts up.

    The AC pretty much said that both our horse are very high energy and judgmental. She said that the DW was a bit of a snob and that the pony was snotty, which he is, but give us lots of entertainment with his personality.

    All in all, it was an interesting experience and worth the $40.

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    That is too cool!!! I love reading other people's AC stories!!!

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    • #3
      Always amazes me how horses are so fluent in the English that they speak to ACs and know all the correct terminology for the saddles, their physiology and have exactly the same emotions and sentiments that humans have. I've always wondered if a horse was imported would the AC need to be bilingual? Wouldn't it be much cheaper for all of us if vets had a resident AC - that way, instead of us having to do all these expensive tests, the horses could just tell us where they hurt, what they ate, or what they got caught up on?

      Call me a skeptic, but at least for only $40 you didn't get fleeced..... much.

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      • #4
        I'm waiting for vets to have animal communicators riding along with them.
        "No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Kate66 View Post
          Always amazes me how horses are so fluent in the English that they speak to ACs and know all the correct terminology for the saddles, their physiology and have exactly the same emotions and sentiments that humans have.
          Setting aside for a moment the question of whether or not ACs are actually reading the animals or the people or even just flat out making everything up - as a former sign language interpreter, I have no problem with the fact that ACs relay messages to us in English. (And in Poland, ACs relay messages in Polish, etc.)

          It's all about conveying concepts, right?

          It's like idioms. In Malay, there's an expression "tiga-suku" - literally, it means "three fourths" - idiomatically, it means the same thing as "one beer short of a six pack" or "one sandwich short of a picnic" or... pick your favorite equivalent.

          If you were interpreting between a Malay speaker & an English speaker, you wouldn't say, "Oh, that person is three fourths." Depending on the formality of the situation, you might say "Oh, that person is not all there" or "Oh, that person is one sandwich short of a picnic".

          Getting back to the real subject at hand... personally, I think that the ACs are reading something. Is it the animal? Is it the owner? I'd like to think it's the animal, but I'd also like to think that I could ride like Karen O'Connor if I really put my mind to it, so... what I'd LIKE to think doesn't always have much reality to it
          Approved helmet: Every time; every ride.
          "When a sport gets to be predictable it ceases to be fun." - RAR's wise brother

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          • #6
            That's quite a bargain! The guy in my area charges $100 for 20 minutes.

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            • #7
              I've never dealt with an AC and while curious, I do think there is a bit of a hoakiness to it. Kind of like when people have the person who talks to spirits checking on them. You never hear on those shows that Aunt Mabel is burning in hell, having a terrible time and always hated you so stop bothering her in the afterlife.

              I want to hear an AC that walks into a barn of an abuser and says straight faced that the animals are horriblely unhappy and would love to stomp the crap out of their owner.
              ...don't sh** where you eat...

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              • #8
                It's like everything else - there are very good ones and then .....there's the rest.
                The problem with political jokes is that they get elected.
                H. Cate

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                  Originally posted by Risk-Averse Rider View Post
                  Setting aside for a moment the question of whether or not ACs are actually reading the animals or the people or even just flat out making everything up - as a former sign language interpreter, I have no problem with the fact that ACs relay messages to us in English. (And in Poland, ACs relay messages in Polish, etc.)

                  It's all about conveying concepts, right?
                  American Sign Language is a good example of a concept-based language.

                  What's the difference? In English, a word-based language, the same word can stand for very different concepts. For example, one can "run" to the store, "run" for president, or "run" the washing machine. In ASL, each of these different concepts is represented by its own particular sign.

                  Also, ASL sentence structure generally follows the chronological order in which events occur, not some arbitrary rule of syntax.

                  I've always thought if horses could talk to us, they'd use a language much more like ASL than like English.
                  I'm not ignoring the rules. I'm interpreting the rules. Tamal, The Great British Baking Show

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                  • #10
                    Ok, skeptics - my experiences (with 2 different ACs) have been very similar to csuebele's.

                    Once AC located my horses - telephone consults in both cases, rather than onsite - I answered the AC's questions and found myself "seeing" things from my horse's POV.

                    Both ACs I talked to told me the horses send pictures, not actual words and much like RAR descibes. A good AC is a skilled interpreter.

                    Sorry, but as a former skeptic myself, I've experienced just too many occurences of things that could not have been a cold reading from me.

                    IMHO an AC is much like those Idiot Savants who sit down to the piano & play Bach, but need to have their shoes tied for them.
                    They have a skill/talent present in us all but more developed in the individual.
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                    • #11
                      I believe that there are some genuine ones, but they are often drowning amid a sea of scammers.

                      As far as relaying things in English, or whatever language...well of course the AC is going to do this. It's not like they're going to stand there and start nickering at us, right?

                      Out of curiousity, many, many months ago I paid a relatively well-known AC to read my gelding over the internet (I had to send her a photo...so I chose a head shot). She told me that she experiences sensations and flashes of images and emotion, which she translates the best she knows how. Not actual words as we know them. Makes sense.
                      I also have an inkling that some if not all ACs are not above "beefing" a reading up to ensure their clients are satisfied, and might fluff the interpretations a little.

                      For the record, there were many things she got quite spot on about him which she could not have possibly gleaned from the very small amount I told her (his age, breed, and name).
                      Among other things, she got it right that he was sold as a long yearling, has had more than two owners (I know this already) including a man -- I get the distinct impression of a man in his background, also, for some reason...that when he is nervous he tends to show it through his stomach/loose stools (VERY correct, and also validated with his last owner), that he doesn't like working in the evening due to the shadows (true, he seems to be more spooky in the evenings), and that he had an old injury in his right shoulder which periodically bothers him (once again, true...some mornings he is a little stiff through the right shoulder). She also mentioned that he was feeling quite unsure about what was expected of him, and felt he was still, to an extent, confused and "hurt" over what had recently happened (last owner was letting him starve alone in a corral, and when this reading was taken I was still working him through his behaviour issues -- neither were mentioned to her). She said he was a bright, inquisitive sort, kind-hearted and thankful, but remained doubtful of many things, including humans as a whole, due to the unkindness in his past. She said he was used to people only "using" him and seemed to be missing some sort of "connection."
                      (nowadays I can quite truthfully say I am HIS person, lol...and he becomes quite jealous when I'm working with another horse!)

                      I do think ACs have some validity. I'm glad your experience was a good one, OP.
                      Last edited by dBaron; Nov. 22, 2010, 04:20 PM. Reason: lol grammar

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                      • #12
                        Ok I will give my AC story. Now I never intended to have the AC out, a woman in the barn had her out for her horse. And guess what she charges -


                        ZILCH

                        That's right. As she says she was born with a gift and therefore does not charge for her services.

                        At any rate she spent an hour with woman's horse and came back with "I absolutely get nothing from this horse." Now if any of you all met this horse, you would know that she was absolutely spot on. He gives absolutely nothing to anyone or horse in anything that he does. Total pain in the arse and he wouldn't stand still nor co operate in any way during his " reading." I ended up having to hold him and at one stage she asked me if I was alright on my ankle. Um, yeah. It's arthritic as he had been broke and I didn't get it mended properly so I could continue to work. Anyway it was bizarre.

                        So she had a cup of tea with all of us in the barn and then just walked on down the barn aisle in mid sentence and stopped in front of Abba. She told me she has amazing energy and presence. She asked if she could read her and well since it was free, what the heck. Brought her out and her first words were, "by the way, it wasn't a head injury it was her neck." At 2 months of age Abba did have a head/neck injury that we treated by way of meds and stall rest. The outcome would have been the same had we headed on down to a big vet clinic - she was either going to get better or have to be put down. So at any rate all these years I just assumed it was her head but it was the neck, well so I'm told. Anyway, Abba never looked back. I was a bit shocked by all that but still I am a skeptic. She basically described her to a tee including her weird little ways. Then she said there is a presence around her which is either her daughter or a sister and her name begins with a D. That would have been Daphne who was a sister and was killed at 3 weeks of age. And because it was probably a bad time of the month, I burst out into tears because I still haven't forgiven myself for Daphne being killed.

                        She didn't go into stupid things like saddle fit, just more of what she was like and certain things that have affected her over the years which she was spot on with. She did tell me that she loves me and is quite happy in life and that I shouldn't worry about her so much - guilty.

                        Then she looks at me and says who is Mug? Ummm, I don't know, why. Well she says, he is behind you and is near you all the time. Shrugged that off until I was reading my old journals that night and realized that was my nickname for Halory Hunter whom has now passed. That was a bit wierd because I didn't even remember that. She also described my guardian angels (the human kind) as a previous communicator had as well. Same 3. ( wish one of them could give me winning lottery numbers, but hey I guess I'm still alive so we can't complain!)

                        So yeah, not a bad experience all in all. She wasn't a fortune teller and she was honest in dealing with the other horse in saying she couldn't get a reading.

                        In Ireland you will find that many people with "the gift" do not charge. They obviously don't advertise and can only be found word of mouth.

                        Terri
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Kate66 View Post
                          Always amazes me how horses are so fluent in the English that they speak to ACs and know all the correct terminology for the saddles, their physiology and have exactly the same emotions and sentiments that humans have. I've always wondered if a horse was imported would the AC need to be bilingual? Wouldn't it be much cheaper for all of us if vets had a resident AC - that way, instead of us having to do all these expensive tests, the horses could just tell us where they hurt, what they ate, or what they got caught up on?

                          Call me a skeptic, but at least for only $40 you didn't get fleeced..... much.
                          Actually, it took some time to figure out what the horse was trying to convey. The AC never got that type of feeling about how my daughter was coming down on the saddle and we were trying to figure out what was going on. The AC thought it maybe her coming down on the pommel. Later my daughter's trainer came by and it made perfect sense to her as she has seen my daughter ride and knew that it was indead the pommel. The AC's words were more her interpetation of the images and emotions she received from the horses, and she made that perfectly clear. For example, our DW relayed that she was happen with her new home, but inferred that she had been in nicer barns. The AC told us she got an image of a barn with long hallway of stalls and an image of a hot walker. Yes, I doubt any horse can use words, but they do understan spoken commands like trot, cantet, etc.

                          I didn't have time to finish what the AC said about our neighbor's horse. This horse they bought for a dollar as it was having a lot of problems with jumping and would not even go over trot polls.

                          The horse was imported from Germany. The horse relayed that she was happy in her first home, but that they had little emotion for her. A man came and rode her every day. He was not cruel, but work her hard and put her in a frame (again these are the AC's words for the images she received). Then she went to a place that she didn't like and would not communicate about it. The AC got the impression that the horse was upset that someone would take her from a place she liked and not even ask her if she wanted to go.

                          At another place she hated in that they worked her so hard that her knees started hurting and that when she jumped, they would throw the poll up at her feet - we're guessing that's the reason she didn't like the ground rails and jumping.

                          Our neighbor's daughter has gotten the horse to jump now and is doing very well on her.

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                            Later that same night, I received a call from the AC on an unrelated matter: I had helped her load her car with her art stuff and we missed one of her chairs - I was in a hurry to get her to our barn as we had to leave by a certain time.

                            We got to talking about the reading, and I told her that she was pretty much dead on with what she said. She was happy to hear this because so few people give her feedback as to her accuracy. I told her most folks are skeptical and want to see how well you do cold. I filled in some details, which I didn't at the time, and she was very greatful and said that now a lot more of it made sense to her. She said the animals don't tell her everything and she has to piece together a lot of the information that she receives, which may not make sense.

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                            • #15
                              I'm afraid what the Red One would say... kinda like a little kid in the elevator commercials that the mother stuffs a granola bar in the kids mouth. Missy and Alex, I'd be interested to hear what they have to share... not so sure I'd want to know what Mir had to say though... I'm sure it would be an earfull.
                              If i'm posting on Coth, it's either raining so I can't ride or it's night time and I can't sleep.

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                              • #16
                                This stuff always intrigues me. If anyone can recommend a good AC in Iowa, please let me know. I know there are a thousand stories of total crap for every one good one.....but I figure the crap would still have entertainment value!

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                                • #17
                                  OP and Terri;

                                  Really cool! I had an very well known AC read my horse once (barn owner's Xmas present to boarders that year) and it was all too vague. Some others were more impressed. But I believe there are those who can do it. I really liked hearing about the Irish lady with the gift she felt she should share.

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                                    #18
                                    This subject got me interested, so I started reading one of Marta William's books on AC. According to Marta, AC's can hear words. She explains it like there is some translator box in which your brain converts what you are received into words. So it is possible to have an animal communicate to you in words, not that they actually understand them, but that they somehow get converted. It also works the other way in that you can talk or think to your animal in word, and they will understand it - doesn't mean they will act on it or listen to you like anyone who has a teenage would know. Interesting book.

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                                    • #19
                                      Some words they know. Like "peep."
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                                      • #20
                                        I talked to an AC regarding an OTTB gelding I have. The AC explained to me exactly where he was hurting in explicit detail. She said that he showed her "pictures" of the areas that hurt and she translated to [somewhat] anatomical terms (the left side of his neck just behind his head, his ribs on the right side and a specific one that felt "kinked," stiffness through the whole right side of his body from shoulder to butt that he thought felt was connected to the issue on the left side of his neck, etc.). I had a bodyworker coming out the next day (totally unrelated...they don't know each other, though I referred my bodyworker to the AC after the session). I told her what the AC said about his body and she got to work. Afterwards she said that he had major issues with each of the areas he described to the AC.

                                        The AC also explained a lot about his past. I thought she was wrong about what she said (she went into a lot of detail, but the overriding feeling was that he felt like no one had ever cared about him) because I had a certain picture in my mind of what his younger years were like based on having met his owner/trainer. I thought he was an "only" horse who had lots of time and energy devoted to him. I was telling my bodyworker about what the AC told me and she laughed and said that she couldn't believe someone was so spot on. It turns out that I was wrong about just about everything and the AC filled in the details for me (then verified by my bodyworker who found him for me and knows the owner quite well).

                                        I'm a pretty big skeptic with stuff like this and called because of great urging from a friend who was staying with me for the night, and definitely didn't expect the AC to go into such great detail about things that could so easily be proven wrong (if they were wrong)...especially via a phone reading!
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