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OMG! Someone's galloping down the expressway in Chicago!!

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    #81
    Originally posted by Nezzy View Post

    I reported it, bu idk if they will remove it or not. I am not sure their policy. It would help if more people report it as well.
    I reported it too.
    It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.

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      #82
      Originally posted by OTTBs View Post

      Because we are horse people and we know the difference.
      Because we are horse people, we know that the depth of the abuse. That is what matters.

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        #83
        He's a piece of crap that wanted his 15 min of fame, even if it killed his horse.

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          #84
          This still has me so steaming mad. That Go Fund Me should go to the horse's vet bill! That monster deserves to be publically named and shamed for the horrible animal abuser he is! Words fail me to express how much anger and disgust I feel. I wish with all my heart karma bites him hard and he feels every ounce of pain and fear and torment and suffering he put that poor horse through!!!

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            #85
            Horse is rallying according to Chicago Sun Times.
            "I swear it happened just like this" - Leonard Cohen

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              #86
              Nezzy are there any updates on this horse from your friend? I am glad to hear that the news report says it is doing better.

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                #87
                Looks like NuNu landed in a soft place.
                Too bad about needing a police guard, but given these volatile times....

                https://www.facebook.com/groups/3484...0025009702222/

                Totally agree with you Vyce - Rescue has a GFM, but Hollingsworth's GFM $ should be redirected there!
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by 2DogsFarm View Post
                  Looks like NuNu landed in a soft place.
                  Too bad about needing a police guard, but given these volatile times....

                  https://www.facebook.com/groups/3484...0025009702222/

                  Totally agree with you Vyce - Rescue has a GFM, but Hollingsworth's GFM $ should be redirected there!
                  Your link doesn't work!

                  I agree with the fund's. The dirt ball should have pay.
                  ~~Some days are a total waste of makeup.~~

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by 2DogsFarm View Post
                    Looks like NuNu landed in a soft place.
                    Too bad about needing a police guard, but given these volatile times....

                    https://www.facebook.com/groups/3484...0025009702222/

                    Totally agree with you Vyce - Rescue has a GFM, but Hollingsworth's GFM $ should be redirected there!
                    Ouch. That video of her being led is painful to watch.

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                      #90
                      That poor mare. Facebook is on fire with people expressing outrage about this. I'm glad she is in loving, caring hands now.

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                        #91
                        When I was in England I saw a lot of horses being hacked on asphalt (not concrete) and they were all shod. All the driving horses I know are also shod.
                        I would not use the Amish as an example of road work being ok.

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                          #92
                          Originally posted by trubandloki View Post
                          Nezzy are there any updates on this horse from your friend? I am glad to hear that the news report says it is doing better.
                          have not asked him today. i can do that.

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                            #93
                            Originally posted by trubandloki View Post
                            Nezzy are there any updates on this horse from your friend? I am glad to hear that the news report says it is doing better.
                            here is a statement from the FB page link provided, above. Many of you have inquired, desperately hoping help had been sent for the horse involved in the Dan Ryan incident. We would like you to understand that the situation was not in our jurisdiction and we have no authority to intervene. We have been told however, that the horse is making progress in her recovery. We at HAHS would like to take this opportunity to emphasize how extremely important the value of education is in avoiding situations like this. Our mission statement “Promoting the humane treatment of hooved animals through education, legislation, investigation, and IF NECESSARY, intervention. Notice the first thing listed is education and the last thing, intervention. All of our animals are the result of criminal cases of animal abuse and neglect, but our goal is never to take people’s animals. We want to educate owners, so they can properly care for their animals themselves. Therefore, preventing events like this. This horse is in excruciating pain and her legs will never be the same. She will never be able to carry a rider again. If you are following our page, chances are you love horses. This story probably makes you very angry. If you heard most of the stories regarding our investigations, you would probably be angry. Do you know that more than half of the cases we investigate are instances of people who didn’t possess the proper knowledge required to care for their animals? Especially horses. As many of you know, you can spend a lifetime learning about horses and still have plenty more to learn. This owner met a live horse for the first time four years ago? In the horse world, four years is a drop in the bucket when considering the consumption of the knowledge necessary to care for a horse. Did this mare’s owner know the damage that his ride was going to do to his horse? That he would permanently disable her? I don’t know, but if not, he should have. This was easily an avoidable tragedy.

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                              #94
                              Brits are a big believers of "legging a horse up" or "building bone". It is done by systematically walking and trotting sport and driving horses on macadam. They start slow, working up to about 30 minutes. They feel it helps bone density and strengthens ligament and tendon. It has merit and as Americans we find it strange. Again, this is done very scientifically. This is part of the conditioning process and thought to be correct as Sport and Driving horses often have to be ridden/driven over pavement. Police horses in this country do very similar conditioning work. Shoeing is individual in for each horse, some need pads, some need borium or the modern sport boots, the special few need nothing at all.

                              What they do not do is canter horses down the middle of the Interstate in the dead heat of late summer. I found that very disturbing. Abuse is a fine line. I am not abusing my horse by riding it, but riding him 20 miles in his burlesque state in down right abuse.

                              I understand this person was making a statement, I appreciate that, but this is my mind was abuse in the truest sense. Maybe he did not know any better. It seems to me that anyone capable of riding in that scenario would have had enough horse experience to have some idea of horse welfare. Saddle sores, road founder and general exhaustion/dehydration is abuse, period. Maybe the rider needs to recreate the ride route barefoot with 40lbs on his back and he can give us another statement about caring more for the welfare of animals.

                              Just my very humble opinion. My apologies if it offends...
                              Last edited by four2farm@gmail.com; Sep. 26, 2020, 05:21 PM.

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                                #95
                                Thank you for sharing that Nezzy . I can't get the link to work so you sharing let me see it.

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                                  #96
                                  Glad that poor horse is doing somewhat better. I hope they throw the book at him. And all that money being donated and I bet not one centavo towards his horse grrrrr
                                  "Cats aren't clean; they're covered with cat spit."
                                  - John S Nichols (1745-1846,writer/printer)

                                  Don't come for me - I didn't send for you.

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                                    #97
                                    I feel awful for the horse. And I see a failure of education in the rider -- I'm not sure he has ever been taught that saddle sores are not normal, or that galloping many miles down a highway could do such harm. He says in the press statement I saw that he's received threats of violence and I hope that's not true. But at the same time I find it very concerning that he says he'd do it again, and even with video of the horse in recovery showing that she is very lame, he thinks he can get an attorney to prove that she was not harmed by the incident.

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                                      #98
                                      Originally posted by x-halt-salute View Post
                                      ...I find it very concerning that he says he'd do it again, and even with video of the horse in recovery showing that she is very lame, he thinks he can get an attorney to prove that she was not harmed by the incident.
                                      As they say, you can't fix stupid. Willful ignorance is pretty hard to fix, too.
                                      "She is not fragile like a flower. She is fragile like a bomb."

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                                        #99
                                        Originally posted by SillyHorse View Post

                                        As they say, you can't fix stupid. Willful ignorance is pretty hard to fix, too.
                                        I honestly don't know whether the ignorance was indeed willful or not until the stunt got him in trouble. Clearly he's committed to some pretty abhorrent positions now, but the guy has only been riding for 4 years and probably has no clue where to go to find better information about horsemanship and animal care than he is surrounded by. Makes the thing all the more tragic to me that this guy who, under different circumstances, may have been receptive to learning to be a better horseperson has adopted a defensive strategy that hinges upon normalizing animal abuse.

                                        The more hostility that is directed toward this guy the more defensive he will become. I hope he faces appropriate legal consequences for the harm done to his horse but I also think that the best chance of "fixing the willful ignorance" is if people channel their justified outrage about this toward helping the horse and those managing her recovery rather than directing their ire at him directly. The odds are long that he'll apologize for what he's done to the horse or resolve to learn more about horsemanship. But he might be more likely to accept legal consequences, like losing his horses, if he doesn't feel like he's being persecuted by a mob of privileged animal rights activists.

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                                          Originally posted by x-halt-salute View Post

                                          I honestly don't know whether the ignorance was indeed willful or not until the stunt got him in trouble. Clearly he's committed to some pretty abhorrent positions now, but the guy has only been riding for 4 years and probably has no clue where to go to find better information about horsemanship and animal care than he is surrounded by. Makes the thing all the more tragic to me that this guy who, under different circumstances, may have been receptive to learning to be a better horseperson has adopted a defensive strategy that hinges upon normalizing animal abuse.

                                          The more hostility that is directed toward this guy the more defensive he will become. I hope he faces appropriate legal consequences for the harm done to his horse but I also think that the best chance of "fixing the willful ignorance" is if people channel their justified outrage about this toward helping the horse and those managing her recovery rather than directing their ire at him directly. The odds are long that he'll apologize for what he's done to the horse or resolve to learn more about horsemanship. But he might be more likely to accept legal consequences, like losing his horses, if he doesn't feel like he's being persecuted by a mob of privileged animal rights activists.
                                          Didn't someone say he posted on FB that he will ride the the horse to death, or something similar? Doesn't sound like someone who gives a crap about the horse, no matter how the info is presented to him.

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