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    #21
    I can't even imagine the stress of dealing with these fires never mind having to evacuate horses. My father is in Sunnyvale so out of harms way but said the smoke is very bad.
    I hope today brings better news on the control of the fires.
    Humans dont mind duress, in fact they thrive on it. What they mind is not feeling necessary. Sebastian Junger

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      #22
      mandatory evacuation.... Most homeowners' insurance policies have “additional living expenses” clauses that will cover your costs if you're ordered to leave your home

      I inquired with our carrier and yes if ordered my additional expenses would be covered

      One of the reasons I live where I do is there are multiple routes in/out of the area, I can go in any direction without restraint .... I just do not feel comfortable in boxed in situations

      It appears that former BIL's place might have burned or at least may be in the path of the fires in the Feather River basin.... I know he will not leave, I wish him the best

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        #23
        Thinking of you Obsidian Fire . I hope they are making progress containing the fire.

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          #24
          skydy your posts are comforting to me, thank you.
          I am in south Clackamas County OR, if you want to look at a fire map.

          The fire closest to my house spread 19 miles north (towards me) yesterday, which is why they asked us to leave. When we left last night ash was coating everything. Luckily the wind died down so they were able to hold it off.
          I am “confident enough” although I’m going to check news and maps before I act, that I can bring horses back to home barn today. At this point it will just move them ‘that much’ further away but I’ll take what I can get.
          Yesterday another barn on the outskirts of the woods had to get out - 40 horses. Everybody who can take in has been, our resources are stretched so thin, so many keep at home and have no idea who to call in an emergency.

          And small animals. My cats are locked in my barns tack room (because it got vacated) and where else could I take them? My bird is in a travel cage in my truck, he’ll be fine. My fish stayed home. Not much I could do there.

          Supposedly rain is coming but not until Monday? I think, so lots of ground between now and then.

          It is 7 am here and still pitch black out. It should not be.

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            #25
            The weirdness of the atmosphere doesn't help, I know. It's like being on another planet and everything is strange enough already.

            Do the authorities in your area have evacuation options for large animals such as show grounds? There should be a number to call for people to ask for or offer hay, trailers, or trailer space.
            It always makes me glad to see how people come together and help each other during these emergencies.

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              #26
              If you want to track the fires, this map is a good source:

              https://napsg.maps.arcgis.com/apps/w...2c7ba6db45ff0e

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                #27
                If anyone has the ability, please add your name to help out if needed. I belong to this group on the east coast and can offer housing, stabling etc in the event of an emergency https://www.facebook.com/groups/East...ineEvacuation/

                This is the group page for the US https://www.fleetofangels.org/

                Sending you strength, healing and protection
                )O(
                "Some people will never like you because your spirit irritates their demons"

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                  #28
                  Years and years ago
                  I remember a tragically beautiful photo on the cover of the LA times with a horsewoman leading a horse down the street at twilight and the hill in back was on fire.
                  I'm sure that horse was one that would not load while the others were evacuated by trailer.

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                    #29
                    Right now I have three pony sized horses and a two horse trailer, and I'm contemplating if it's possible to get all three of them in there together at once without anyone getting hurt.

                    That's the other half of the evacuation equation: getting everyone out without getting hurt, and getting them to a place where they will be safe and not get hurt, and not have to evacuate again.

                    I'd like to take the truck in for servicing but I don't dare have it off the property for a day.

                    I should scan the trailer for wasps again and check the tire pressure.

                    We're not in danger right now and objectively we're in a pretty safe place: I chose this place for a reason. And, for better or worse, nearly everything around us has burned in the last three years. But firefighters are thin right now and I just watched the Oak Fire explode from one house into a large and dangerous fire in about two hours, so that plus the fact that all the smoke in the upper atmosphere is turning the skies of all of Northern California orange has me pretty jumpy.

                    The good news of that smoke high in the atmosphere is that it's cooled us by about 20 degrees and we have no wind locally.

                    If you are allergic to a thing, it is best not to put that thing in your mouth, particularly if the thing is cats. - Lemony Snicket

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by poltroon View Post
                      Right now I have three pony sized horses and a two horse trailer, and I'm contemplating if it's possible to get all three of them in there together at once without anyone getting hurt.

                      That's the other half of the evacuation equation: getting everyone out without getting hurt, and getting them to a place where they will be safe and not get hurt, and not have to evacuate again.

                      I'd like to take the truck in for servicing but I don't dare have it off the property for a day.

                      I should scan the trailer for wasps again and check the tire pressure.
                      I had a friend who would put a pony in the front where the hay net hangs...just make sure you can secure the doors so pony doesn't open it. Put tape across it and rig one of those banana chains across them. I also always carry an air compressor, the kind you can plug into the car/truck outlet. Best to all of you in this predicament! If I were not in the Northeast I would be there to help.
                      Humans dont mind duress, in fact they thrive on it. What they mind is not feeling necessary. Sebastian Junger

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                        #31
                        OP, glad that you and yours are safe. I live in Berkeley in a similar hills environment as to where the Oakland Hills fire happened. Last year, I could no longer endure the stress of living in a fire zone AND having my riding horse in a even more dangerous fire zone so I moved him 75 miles east to the Central Valley where he lives surrounded by vineyards. We purchased the house a few months after the Oakland fire and we investigated routes of egress and we have 3-4 major ones. I refused to live on the side of the hill on a narrow winding road and get trapped. Of course, we still could get trapped in traffic during a massive evacuation. Since 1993, I run evacuation scenarios in my head every summer. A go bag is always packed. Important documents and photos are scanned and in the cloud. Everything else is just stuff.
                        Before I left my old barn, we ran evacuation scenarios. During fire season, rigs were parked with keys in the ignitions. All horses had ID collars on their stall doors and ID mane clips on their halters. We were told that once the roads were blocked by fire crews, we wouldn't be allowed in but trained volunteer groups might be. And those groups might take any rigs that were available for evacuating animals hence leaving the keys in the ignitions. One person had a horse who was recalcitrant to load and she worked on it. I did deal with having to evacuate 20 horses from the barn when a trailer near by caught on fire (all was fine in the end). What I learned from that experience is to have good equipment i.e. halter and lead, hanging on EVERY stall. And for me, I'm much calmer handling other people's horses than my own.
                        I hope some of this info is useful to others and you never need to use it. But IMHO, you can't be too prepared.
                        This was written at 9 AM and it is almost pitch black outside from the smoke blocking the sun.

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                          #32
                          Willow Fire blew up this morning. The sky outside my house this morning was orange in every direction. Never seen it like that, even in 2018. Gives one no sense of direction.

                          NorCal Livestock Evac (NCLES) is doing a heroic job in evacuating stock in Yuba county, north of us. This is a good place to donate.

                          Make sure you have identifying photos of your animals, in case they are evac'd by volunteers.

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                            #33
                            Wishing the best to all of you dealing with fire. I'm sure your anxiety is through the roof. I've only ever dealt with hurricanes, which give you enough time to evacuate safely, usually, and that can be stressful. I can't imagine the immediacy of a knock on the door that says you have to get out NOW. Prayers for all of you.
                            "We need a pinned ears icon." -MysticOakRanch

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                              #34
                              Originally posted by Brown Derby View Post

                              Make sure you have identifying photos of your animals, in case they are evac'd by volunteers.
                              Forgot to add, I got my horse microchipped as well as all my pets.
                              Also, hang a livestock marker on each stall for writing phone numbers on horses.


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                                #35
                                Wishing you the best, OP. I hope things calm down and the firefighters get a chance to get ahead of this. Fire above me doesn't scare me as much as fire below me.

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                                  #36
                                  Originally posted by skydy View Post
                                  The weirdness of the atmosphere doesn't help, I know. It's like being on another planet and everything is strange enough already.

                                  Do the authorities in your area have evacuation options for large animals such as show grounds? There should be a number to call for people to ask for or offer hay, trailers, or trailer space.
                                  It always makes me glad to see how people come together and help each other during these emergencies.
                                  Yes, we have one local fairgrounds that is now currently full (somebody even had a YAK they brought in). There are others but they are a 2 hour drive, but there if need be. Some of our bigger barns have opened to evacuee's (like Devonwood). Facebook posted "cowboy 911" which is code for anyone with a trailer please help. So people use that also.
                                  Bigger even tho is SMALL ANIMALS. So many have cats, dogs, I mean who thinks about crates/kennels when your animals roam on X acres? My parents had to evacuate and my brother is at their house has Mom's cats in the house, I am taking a large crate/kennel I have over for him so he can evacuate them. And I doubt some hotel is going to let you hole up with your cats....
                                  Honest to god if it was "just me" - no husband, kiddo - I would probably have camped out in my horse trailer. I could do that, if needed.
                                  Some folks have camping corrals they can put around their trailers and are using that when they evacuate to a place such as large parking lot or something.

                                  It's 10 in the morning and it may as well be 10 at night, it is that dark. I'm at my house right now just checking on stuff - pretending to do something that feels normal.

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                                    #37
                                    Odd, the map I posted is no longer showing the fires. Here is another one. It has been updated and we are two miles from the latest Level ! warning. Too close for comfort,

                                    https://www.oregon.gov/oem/emops/Pages/RAPTOR.aspx

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                                      #38
                                      Originally posted by Obsidian Fire View Post

                                      Yes, we have one local fairgrounds that is now currently full (somebody even had a YAK they brought in). There are others but they are a 2 hour drive, but there if need be. Some of our bigger barns have opened to evacuee's (like Devonwood). Facebook posted "cowboy 911" which is code for anyone with a trailer please help. So people use that also.
                                      Bigger even tho is SMALL ANIMALS. So many have cats, dogs, I mean who thinks about crates/kennels when your animals roam on X acres? My parents had to evacuate and my brother is at their house has Mom's cats in the house, I am taking a large crate/kennel I have over for him so he can evacuate them. And I doubt some hotel is going to let you hole up with your cats....
                                      Honest to god if it was "just me" - no husband, kiddo - I would probably have camped out in my horse trailer. I could do that, if needed.
                                      Some folks have camping corrals they can put around their trailers and are using that when they evacuate to a place such as large parking lot or something.

                                      It's 10 in the morning and it may as well be 10 at night, it is that dark. I'm at my house right now just checking on stuff - pretending to do something that feels normal.
                                      Hang in there. I'd call and see about the hotel policy. They might make an exception. Also there are many people here that will take small animals into their homes for the duration.. The Humane society has a list. There are numbers to call here for help to find a place for evacuating animals. Perhaps there is some network set up where you are as well. Hopefully there is a number you can call for information. Stay safe.

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                                        #39
                                        Originally posted by Obsidian Fire View Post

                                        Yes, we have one local fairgrounds that is now currently full (somebody even had a YAK they brought in). There are others but they are a 2 hour drive, but there if need be. Some of our bigger barns have opened to evacuee's (like Devonwood). Facebook posted "cowboy 911" which is code for anyone with a trailer please help. So people use that also.
                                        Bigger even tho is SMALL ANIMALS. So many have cats, dogs, I mean who thinks about crates/kennels when your animals roam on X acres? My parents had to evacuate and my brother is at their house has Mom's cats in the house, I am taking a large crate/kennel I have over for him so he can evacuate them. And I doubt some hotel is going to let you hole up with your cats....
                                        Honest to god if it was "just me" - no husband, kiddo - I would probably have camped out in my horse trailer. I could do that, if needed.
                                        Some folks have camping corrals they can put around their trailers and are using that when they evacuate to a place such as large parking lot or something.

                                        It's 10 in the morning and it may as well be 10 at night, it is that dark. I'm at my house right now just checking on stuff - pretending to do something that feels normal.
                                        The problem I encountered with the crates is that even though I have several, it's hard to have enough space for them in a car when you also have people and stuff. Even if you only have people OR stuff. I'm thinking about getting some soft side ones that can be clean and collapsible and maybe easier to squish in.

                                        For cats, a quick and dirty solution is pillowcases. It's really important to confine them and not chuck them into the car loose. Every year there are lost pets around evacuations where they got away while evacuated.

                                        I keep my trailer dressing room generally packed with important equipment and this is a time when that's helpful. It's also overflow space for things like crates.

                                        Hotels are already full in my area so if I had to evacuate it would be car and trailer camping. There are places to stash pets - if you can't get a hotel, they will board them at the animal shelter for you and many shelters will have places kenneled animals can stay near their humans. Our county recently acquired a trailer that has 100 kennels that can be taken to any disaster shelter site for companion animals.

                                        If you have time, a comfortable jacket and comfortable shoes should be among your most important items. And wear natural fibers.
                                        If you are allergic to a thing, it is best not to put that thing in your mouth, particularly if the thing is cats. - Lemony Snicket

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                                          #40
                                          Obsidian Fire, most hotels will be willing to take pets when there is an emergency like this. When we had Snowmageddon in 2019 even hotels with a "no pets" policies took in dogs and cats.

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