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    Praying for all of you affected by or threatened by fires. Let us know how things are going for you!

    #2
    I know folks in the Santa Cruz mountains are coordinating evacuations. It's very narrow-road-twisty-turny up there. Hope everyone stays safe.

    The whole bay is socked in with smoke. It's like 2019 all over again. I have 3 air purifiers running full bore in the house. In the middle of a heat wave. With PG&E failing to provide enough electricity, so folks have to decide between filtration and cooling. Great. But I am out of the path of the fires, so it's only the smoke that's a bother. Folks up north aren't so lucky.

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      #3
      Just for scale, I just read we had over 10,000 lightening strikes in the last 72 hours, and over 350 fires are burning in the state right now.

      They aren't naming the individual fires on the news anymore. Now they are naming complexes of multiple fires.

      All during a record-setting heat wave.

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        #4
        A friend of mine lost his entire training facility. They got out all of the horses and dogs, but only have the clothes on their back now. Another lost her hay fields and cattle pastures but luckily her house still stands. Such a devastating time for everyone in wildfire areas
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          #5
          Sigh. Just like 2020 to start fires by bringing rain.

          Thankful that the fires are a ways away and our quality is still good in my area. Stay safe, everyone.

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            #6
            My DD is 6500 miles away and scared for her friends who are under mandatory evacuation in Sonoma county. There's a big one in Austin Creek even with Healdsburg but the one that scares me is the one right on the coast at Meyers Grade. If it's blazingly hot inland the coast will soon develop high winds blowing that fire to the east and on the path of a historic destructive fire that you can't look up anymore because there is so much new stuff in the same area.

            My poor friend from work, she lost her beautiful home in the Tubbs fire and they just this summer finished rebuilding, she was watching the lightning and posting photos of it, and scared to death. Fingers crossed for her. Hwy 80 is closed around Vacaville right now.

            My aunt is fine but the air quality is so bad for her COPD, plus she spends all day in front of the TV getting more and more stressed watching this. I'd like to delete 2020 and start over again please.
            Courageous Weenie Eventer Wannabe
            Incredible Invisible

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              #7
              This is so scary. Belmont, I'm so happy your friend got his animals out.
              "Random capitAlization really Makes my day." -- AndNirina

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                #8
                Very sad. Born and raised in Sonoma and boarded/work at many barns in Santa Rosa/Cotati/etc. I know people who lost their homes in the previous fires.
                https://www.instagram.com/streamlinesporthorses/

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                  #9
                  Under mandatory evacuations orders but am sheltering in place with a few left-behind horses and the cow herd. We have a good area for retreat if it comes to that - the only reason to even consider SIP. But yes, fires are burning all around us except for a sliver to the south. It's going to be a long night and some days. We've had essentially no air support on these fires and regardless of the "we're spread so thin", the firefighting effort is a cluster. Absolutely maddening.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Belmont View Post
                    A friend of mine lost his entire training facility. They got out all of the horses and dogs, but only have the clothes on their back now. Another lost her hay fields and cattle pastures but luckily her house still stands. Such a devastating time for everyone in wildfire areas
                    Oh, this is terrible... If there's anything they need, I've got time and plenty of spare tack/equipment/etc. My guy is safe and looks likely to stay that way for now, but I'll be nervous if the winds pick up.

                    Originally posted by MGLpony View Post
                    Under mandatory evacuations orders but am sheltering in place with a few left-behind horses and the cow herd. We have a good area for retreat if it comes to that - the only reason to even consider SIP. But yes, fires are burning all around us except for a sliver to the south. It's going to be a long night and some days. We've had essentially no air support on these fires and regardless of the "we're spread so thin", the firefighting effort is a cluster. Absolutely maddening.
                    Stay as safe as you can! I'm surprised how fast these got out of control given we've had relatively little wind. Hoping for a good night of fire-fighting.

                    We're lucky that the heat plus smoke (well, and periodic blackouts/loss of internet) is our biggest problem. No AC, of course, so we're choosing between clean air or cool air. I was afraid this was coming as soon as I saw those lightning bolts. What's next, locust storm?
                    If the pony spits venom in your face or produces a loud roar, it is probably not a pony. Find another. -The Oatmeal

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                      #11
                      For us the huge problem was inadequate attack from the get-go. Tankers need to be making air drops asap and daily. That didn't happen. Fires were just left to burn and that they are doing with a vengeance. Fire agencies are going to use this to manipulate more money for their budgets and our state can't afford to do that. Oh, and don't even get me started on the complete and utter lack of information. That's inexcusable.

                      Anyway, cooler temps tonight. Wind shift has allowed the smoke to clear and it's a beautiful starry morning. Hard to believe massive fires are burning all around. That will change as the sun begins to rise but for the moment I can appreciate the brief reprieve.

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                        #12
                        Was listening to the Sonoma County Calfire scanner yesterday. Listened to them trying to get a crew out of service for R&R that had been working for 24 hours
                        straight. Coordinating getting firefighters to hospital. Looking for evacuation routes for equipment in areas where there is only one road. Waiting on an out of state
                        crew only to be told they had been deployed elsewhere.

                        Looked at the weather today and tomorrow. Looked at the explosive spread of the fire around Lake Barryessa up into Lake County.

                        Looks like a hard row to hoe. I would say "spread thin" is an understatement.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by MGLpony View Post
                          For us the huge problem was inadequate attack from the get-go. Tankers need to be making air drops asap and daily. That didn't happen. Fires were just left to burn and that they are doing with a vengeance. Fire agencies are going to use this to manipulate more money for their budgets and our state can't afford to do that. Oh, and don't even get me started on the complete and utter lack of information. That's inexcusable.
                          I wasn't able to guess from this description what specific fires you are talking about. Wildland fires AFAIK are all handled using the same nation-wide Incident Management system. There is a definite protocol how resources are allocated and when they can be asked for as well as when an incident can be escalated to the next "higher" level... local to state to federal. There is also a finite number of resources. Those resources, in California's case, are spread pretty thin. Resources can come from other states but that doesn't happen overnight. Out of area resources can happen but not at the expense of leaving a different geographic area under protected. If those out-of-area resources do respond, they're driving their equipment, not necessarily hopping on an airplane.

                          If you go to the Incident Information System home page, you can see all the fires burning in the US. Your fires are among many... Colorado has a few bad fires. Grizzly Creek has I70 closed. I70 is a major E-W interstate and detours are not simple nor easy.

                          InciWeb provides pretty detailed information on the state of fires that have been escalated. In CalFire's case, if they "own" the fire, information is up to them. If CalFire wants or needs resources, that request has to be escalated along with all those other fires burning.

                          I was reading yesterday that some people in CO were wondering where the SuperTanker is (which is home based in CO). IIRC the SuperTanker is fighting fires in CA. Many of the fires in CO have terrain which is incompatible with the size and flight capabilities of the SuperTanker.

                          Do you really feel that fire agencies are going to use these fires as an "excuse" to ask for more $$? Someone has to pay the firefighters and not just a salary; if they are volunteers they still need to eat, drink, sleep and have their equipment maintained.

                          I realize, having lived in Colorado Springs for 2 very harsh urban fires that killed people and destroyed hundreds of homes, how stressful living with fires can be. It can be just as hard for the firefighters to have to make the tough decisions who's properties they save and who they have to let burn because they don't have the resources. They often will decide which property they can save and focus limited resources on those that are save-able vs spreading limited resources over a wider area and not saving anything. It's also rough on them to have to deal with property owners who will not leave. It is the right of those property owners to stay but it also puts at risk not just firefighters but other law enforcement and others in the evacuation areas to deal with those property owners who choose to stay. In one of the cases above, LE pled numerous times with a couple to leave having seen the flames of the impending fire. By the time the couple decided to leave, they were found in their garage after the fire passed.
                          Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth, And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings; John Gilliespie Magee, Jr

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                            #14
                            We evacuated our barn of from West County on Tuesday night, just to get out early before there was panic. So glad we did. As of Wednesday afternoon, those looking for places to go were having a hard time finding places who could take them.

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                              #15
                              I absolutely appreciate the efforts of the firefighters, private dozer operators, pilots, and support crews. It's a tough job as are many other jobs.

                              We all know of procedures and hierarchies within the CalFire and other fire agencies. I am also very aware of corruption and mismanagement within the system. Absolutely, yes, there is manipulation by first responder unions (police and fire) in order to receive more funding. And no, I am not ignorant of the many fires burning throughout the West.

                              And do not preach the story of the poor first responders for putting their lives on the line for people who stayed behind. Farmers and ranchers, in particular, have had to learn how to take care of themselves, their animals, and property because rural areas can often be left behind. And they do so responsibly and effectively.

                              As of this morning, temps cooled off last night which has really helped to slow rate of spread. The dozer lines seem to be holding but today is key for us.

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                                #16
                                Originally posted by MGLpony View Post
                                Under mandatory evacuations orders but am sheltering in place with a few left-behind horses and the cow herd. We have a good area for retreat if it comes to that - the only reason to even consider SIP. But yes, fires are burning all around us except for a sliver to the south. It's going to be a long night and some days. We've had essentially no air support on these fires and regardless of the "we're spread so thin", the firefighting effort is a cluster. Absolutely maddening.
                                Stay safe and check in with us to let us know you’re ok!

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                                  #17
                                  My daughter and her family are in Monterey and the River fire has them covered in a haze. She said it was weird to be out doing PT (Army girl) and have ash falling down as she jogged. Prayers for all the people in harms way, very scary time.

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                                    #18
                                    There really is a lack of information about these fires. Inciweb directs users to Cal Fire. Links on CalFire with more information don't work. There are no easy to find maps showing evacuation areas. The Sacramento Bee has maps, but you must be a subscriber to view them.

                                    This is in contrast to the the information that was available about the Bighorn Fire outside Tucson. They had detailed maps that were updated daily with three color-coded levels of preparedness and evacuation orders. Friends in Tucson were packed and ready ready to go.

                                    Some of my husband's family live near the fires. We are watching this closely.

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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by SLW View Post
                                      My daughter and her family are in Monterey and the River fire has them covered in a haze. She said it was weird to be out doing PT (Army girl) and have ash falling down as she jogged. Prayers for all the people in harms way, very scary time.
                                      We are thousand plus miles away, across the Rockies, and our skies are hazy.
                                      Weather men tell us is from those fires, as we are downwind from them.

                                      Hope everyone is staying as safe as possible in that.

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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by eventerpony View Post
                                        We evacuated our barn of from West County on Tuesday night, just to get out early before there was panic. So glad we did. As of Wednesday afternoon, those looking for places to go were having a hard time finding places who could take them.
                                        Lari Shea at Simcha Ranch north of Fort Bragg was offering space via the NorCal Livestock Evacuation facebook group. Of course, that's if you can get there.
                                        If you are allergic to a thing, it is best not to put that thing in your mouth, particularly if the thing is cats. - Lemony Snicket

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