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    More on boarding - field sizes.

    Quick suggestion for those shopping for horse board, with an emphasis on available turnout. Google Earth is your friend. This past week I had one person tell me that the ‘big field’ was 10 acres, roughly, only to have Google Earth declare it 3.2. Another said their available filed was 13 acres, which turned out to be 6.2 acres per Google Earth measurements. Not that I fault them, I doubt many of us can eye up acreage accurately.

    Is there any reason for me to doubt the satellite assessment?

    I am only prioritizing field size currently because I have a recently purchased 17 hh 4 year old gelding who needs grass and (preferably hilly) roaming room.

    And of course it would not hurt business owners to check in with this info also.
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    Interesting that they were so off. I've used Google to measure my own fields.

    I'd much more likely trust Google than the people. As you said, most people may honestly not know.

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      #3
      Good turnout is HARD to find. I’ll also say that Id also recommend that if someone tells you they turnout horses “pretty much all day” drive by and see if you can see what hours “pretty much all day” means.

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        #4
        Just check the dates on the Google Earth map to be sure it matches the current fencing configuration.

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          How do you use Google Earth to measure your pastures? Ii am curious about my big pasture. I know I bought 32.8 acres from the survey when I bought the property. This pasture is at least half the property. I know where 5 acres is in the front part of the pasture because we split it off with my house and it was surveyed. I think the pasture is about / at least 3 times that area. I estimate 16 acres but I would like to know. I can't remember how many feet of perimeter fencing we put in. This would be an interesting exercise.

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            Originally posted by Equkelly View Post
            Good turnout is HARD to find. I’ll also say that Id also recommend that if someone tells you they turnout horses “pretty much all day” drive by and see if you can see what hours “pretty much all day” means.
            Yeah a lot of the owners at a previous barn I was at would brag about their horses’ wonderful life with “all day” turnout etc etc. reality? Out at 8.30am, in at 3. That’s 6.5 hours in a 1/4 ac pen and 17.5 hours standing still in a 12x12 stall...

            (Yet others would wonder why their horse was losing weight. Same people who’d take the horse in a long trail ride and he’d miss out on the pasture-fed hay. By the time he got home there was none left but they never figured out how a horse was skinny. On 2 flakes a day... the vet told them to try beet pulp... they’d feed a cup per day. Oh don’t get me started...)

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              Originally posted by Xanthoria View Post

              Yeah a lot of the owners at a previous barn I was at would brag about their horses’ wonderful life with “all day” turnout etc etc. reality? Out at 8.30am, in at 3. That’s 6.5 hours in a 1/4 ac pen and 17.5 hours standing still in a 12x12 stall...

              (Yet others would wonder why their horse was losing weight. Same people who’d take the horse in a long trail ride and he’d miss out on the pasture-fed hay. By the time he got home there was none left but they never figured out how a horse was skinny. On 2 flakes a day... the vet told them to try beet pulp... they’d feed a cup per day. Oh don’t get me started...)
              Yep! “All day turnout” except not when it’s windy. Or snowy. And definitely not when it’s muddy. Or cold. Or not when there could be a storm. Or when there’s a cloud. And and not on holidays. And not on any other random day when BM/ BO have something conflicting in their schedule.

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                Originally posted by Equkelly View Post

                Yep! “All day turnout” except not when it’s windy. Or snowy. And definitely not when it’s muddy. Or cold. Or not when there could be a storm. Or when there’s a cloud. And and not on holidays. And not on any other random day when BM/ BO have something conflicting in their schedule.
                Not when it rained three days ago. Not if it's above 70 degrees or less than 65.

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                  The sad thing is so few people know what their horse could be like on 24/7 turnout with friends in a temperate climate.

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                    Originally posted by SusanO View Post
                    How do you use Google Earth to measure your pastures? Ii am curious about my big pasture. I know I bought 32.8 acres from the survey when I bought the property. This pasture is at least half the property. I know where 5 acres is in the front part of the pasture because we split it off with my house and it was surveyed. I think the pasture is about / at least 3 times that area. I estimate 16 acres but I would like to know. I can't remember how many feet of perimeter fencing we put in. This would be an interesting exercise.
                    Hit the little symbol that looks like a ruler, then “add points,” and when you get back around t the start, it will offer to “close” the figure. Then you have multiple options to convert area to different measurements (Acres, hectares, square feet, etc.)
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                      Originally posted by betsyk View Post
                      Just check the dates on the Google Earth map to be sure it matches the current fencing configuration.
                      Both properties are rented and large. Fencing is expensive, and unless portable electric type type, at least in my neck of the woods, folks are not altering fencing except when ABSOLUTELY necessary. Maybe it is more common in other parts of the world, but not around here.
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                        I think the key is a temperate climate. The one mare officially has 24/7 turnout because the door to her stall is always open. As soon as the sun comes up she heads for her stall and fan and does not emerge until the sun goes down. Except to pee. If I gave her more bedding and didn't put her hay in a net should would not go outside to pee. She has 15 acres of grass but prefers to stay in out of the bugs.

                        In the winter and fall I can get all the horses out 24/7. I love it - less stall cleaning for me. They love it too. No bugs. The Cushings pony doesn't overheat.. Rarely snow or ice so they are happy in the cold as long as there is not pouring rain. Even then they still get thrown out in the rain until they are really miserable and want back in. Not so much the heat. I do have trees and shade but that does not keep the big horse flies off of them.

                        I don't get turnout in those small spaces. Horses need grass and room to roam. And time to be a horse. I keep telling the one mare that her 12x25 stall is really a pasture if she lived in California. Of course land is cheap here.

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                          Thanks for the instructions for Google earth. I learn a lot on COTH!

                          I gotta check it out now.

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                            I downloaded it and my estimate was pretty close. I can't see the fenceline because of the trees but I estimated where they were and it is 15-16 acres. The little pasture is half an acre. I had underestimated it's size. That was really cool! I don't see how people could be off as much as your examples unless they are clueless.

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                              Originally posted by mmeqcenter View Post

                              Not when it rained three days ago. Not if it's above 70 degrees or less than 65.
                              And not when there’s a full moon. Just to be safe!

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                                Originally posted by Xanthoria View Post
                                The sad thing is so few people know what their horse could be like on 24/7 turnout with friends in a temperate climate.
                                So true, my pet peeve is when people are Ike “oh my horse loves his stall!” No he dies not. That’s just where his friends, food, water, and shelter are. Take all of that and move it outside and thence you’re to throw him in a stall and see how much he “loves his stall”.

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