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    Where do you have your stirrup leathers on your saddle?

    I've always ridden with the stirrups leathers on the outside of the saddle flap. When trying a sale horse, the owner had the leathers underneath the flap. I thought that was cool as it kept the outside of the flap from getting rubbed, so I switched my leathers to be on the inside and it does seem to give me a little more stability. Who else does this? Any harm in doing so? I'm surprised I hadn't seen it before, but I also don't get out much, horse-world wise, so maybe it has become a thing.
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    On the outside of the flap
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    Other??? (I have no idea how there could be a third option but just in case...)
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    #2
    I know one woman who put her leathers on the inside of the flap. I suppose it could prevent rubbing/pinching of the thigh for some people.

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      #3
      I’m so confused, how do you put them inside the flap? I can’t visualize it.

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        #4
        This wouldn't be physically possible on my saddle unless I started cutting holes in things. However, one reason I can think of for not wanting to put the leathers under the flap is that I don't believe they would be able to come off the end of the stirrup bar in an emergency.
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          #5
          I had a major injury to my inner lthigh a few years ago, and once I could ride again, I was far more comfortable with the leathers under the flap.. It does give a lot of stability, but I found I really needed offset irons, as there was a lot of torque to the ankles otherwise.

          However, I've gone back to having them outside now I can as I feel its safer that the leathers can slide off the bar easily if things go sideways.

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            #6
            They are definitely intended to go on top of the flap (as others have said it's not even possible on many saddles) but now I have questions.

            Don't your stirrup leather and your billets get all... smashed/bunched up/tangled up under the flap? Do your leathers get "stuck" between the billets? What do you do with the excess stirrup leather - is that just getting all cozy with the leathers, the billets, the billet guard, and the girth? That's a lot of stuff in one place. How do you adjust the stirrups from the saddle? How do you run your stirrups up? What about adjusting your girth?

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              #7
              I've done this on my dressage saddle. It didn't interfere with anything. Can't remember why I went back to normal. Maybe my coach thought it was negatively impacting my leg? Can't remember. Occurs to me that would make the saddle very comfy to ride in in shorts in summer. I used to ride in shorts in a Western saddle as a teen. Teenage skin is much more resilient than old lady skin.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Scribbler View Post
                I've done this on my dressage saddle. It didn't interfere with anything. Can't remember why I went back to normal. Maybe my coach thought it was negatively impacting my leg? Can't remember. Occurs to me that would make the saddle very comfy to ride in in shorts in summer. I used to ride in shorts in a Western saddle as a teen. Teenage skin is much more resilient than old lady skin.
                Can you post a photo of how this works with your saddle? Like some other folks, I can't picture how this is possible in any saddle I've had.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by skydy View Post

                  Can you post a photo of how this works with your saddle? Like some other folks, I can't picture how this is possible in any saddle I've had.
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                  Instead of putting the leathers over the flap, they go back down thru the cut-out (where the stitches are) which puts them under the flap.
                  Do not confuse motion and progress. A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress.
                  Alfred A. Montapert

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                    #10
                    I love them under the flap. Plus, for the most comfort, I use "S" shaped safety irons that are turned at the top so you leg is not torqued, and you place the buckle of the leather just above the stirrup, not at the stirrup bar.

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                      #11
                      doesn't putting them under the flap create the possibility of them pinching the horse's side?
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                        #12
                        I've ridden, in Europe, several horses where the saddles were set up with the leathers under the flap -- owners/trainers didn't mention comfort as the reason, and I got the impression that it was for a cleaner "look."

                        I didn't care for it, as I think it's safer to have the leathers on the outside, since that location makes it far easier to pick up a stirrup, in my personal experience. I don't have any pinching issue with the leathers on the outside; there's also no running stirrups up on the leathers if they're on the inside.

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                          #13
                          The leathers are not against the horse, unless you have a monoflap saddle, in which case I think it doesn't work anyhow. The leathers as in the photo run between the two flaps.

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                            #14
                            I do as Gretasmom does- I attach my stirrup leathers to the stirrup bar under the flap of my dressage saddle, buckle just above the stirrups. I use a silicon "o" ring as a keeper to hold the excess leather from flopping. I run my stirrups up as usual.
                            Incidentally, the SRS rides in Iberian type dressage saddles with leathers attached under the flap and stirrups caught up behind the saddle when not in use.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Jarpur View Post
                              I don't have any pinching issue with the leathers on the outside; there's also no running stirrups up on the leathers if they're on the inside.
                              The stirrups can be run up and sit under the saddle flap.

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                                #16
                                Originally posted by furlong47 View Post
                                This wouldn't be physically possible on my saddle unless I started cutting holes in things. However, one reason I can think of for not wanting to put the leathers under the flap is that I don't believe they would be able to come off the end of the stirrup bar in an emergency.
                                Good point about not being able to come off the stirrup bar in an emergency. Definitely something to think about and makes me think I should switch them back to the outside.

                                Thanks for the thoughts everybody! pluvinel had a good picture showing where they go; my (dressage) saddle is like that but I'm still able to put the extra length through the keep on the outside of the flap.

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                                  #17
                                  Aesthetically I find under the flap unattractive. I've only met one person who had it set up this way in person and found it very uncomfortable. The leathers felt trapped under the flap in a way that was kind of disconcerting.

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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Scribbler View Post
                                    I've done this on my dressage saddle. It didn't interfere with anything. Can't remember why I went back to normal. Maybe my coach thought it was negatively impacting my leg? Can't remember. Occurs to me that would make the saddle very comfy to ride in in shorts in summer. I used to ride in shorts in a Western saddle as a teen. Teenage skin is much more resilient than old lady skin.
                                    They only time I rode in shorts and shoes in the western saddle. I had terrible blisters, knees, ankles, ankle bones, side of foot, after only a couple miles. It was worse the next day, at the show! Raw skin under my jeans and breeches. I never did that again, boots and long pants ever after.

                                    I would not think to put leathers under the flaps, way too unsafe. Leathers can't pull off the (open) stirrup bar because of flap covering causing an indirect pull. I always ride with open stirrup bars, no extra time needed to open for the leather to come off quickly. No chance of mechanical failure of stirrup bar not opening. Have you tried opening your closed stirrup bars recently? I have had to resort to strenuous measures to open the locked portion on stirrup bars on some recently purchased, used saddles! Getting dragged is nasty!

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                                      #19
                                      Under is a big safety hazzard. In an emergency, they will most likely not come off the bars.
                                      "Do what you can't do"

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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by swmorse View Post
                                        doesn't putting them under the flap create the possibility of them pinching the horse's side?
                                        I would think so, with a monoflap saddle.

                                        I ride with the stirrup bar hinge in the open position. The last time I "lost" a stirrup was 50 years ago in a junior jumper competition so no big deal. If you ride with the stirrup hinge closed, check it periodically and lubricate it with something like Vaseline to ensure it will open in an emergency.

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