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  • Fears on the ground.

    I'm 26, and I can truthfully say I've never experienced lasting fear around horses before. I grew up around them, I've ridden all manner of green/spooky/naughty horses, and I've had my share of falls and scares on the ground-- in the past, it was always pretty easy for me to get up and move on with my life.

    I've been out of the saddle for a few years and have committed to a few months of working on myself/getting back in shape before looking to buy a new horse. I'm doing this with a full lease on a horse who is a good combination of challenging and tolerant of my re-rider foibles.

    A few nights ago, I had just put my lease away and turned around in time to witness another horse spook, rear in the cross ties, break the cross ties, spin, and come careening down the aisle-- right toward me. He veered off at the last second, but still partially mowed me down with his hind end. His owner (a new rider) was on his heels.

    I had the wind knocked out of me, but got it back pretty quickly, verified no broken bones or missing teeth, and got up to help catch the horse, who had run out of the barn. There weren't any barn staff around since most had the holiday weekend off-- it was just me, Mr. Serendip and this woman at the barn by this time in the evening.

    The owner was having a meltdown outside, so I caught the horse and helped her bring him back into the barn, only to realize my left arm was streaked with blood-- which turned out to belong to the horse. When he snapped the cross ties, they'd clipped him in the face, and he had two half-inch nicks on either side of his nose, one of which was bleeding pretty profusely. The horse's owner took off to call the vet, leaving Mr. Serendip and me to deal.

    Long story short, bleeding stopped quickly with some pressure, we cleaned up the cut, checked horse over to make sure he wasn't hurt anywhere else, lopped on some antibiotic goop (mostly to make me feel better), and horse settled down to munch hay. Owner returned at some point; vet wasn't concerned enough to make a farm call at 9:30 at night and would come by in the morning.

    The next day, I put my lease in cross ties and realized I was nervous. Very nervous. Horse isn't bombproof but definitely isn't spooky, and has never had an issue being cross tied, but I found myself hurrying to groom and tack up-- and I was holding my breath as I picked up each one of his feet. I got on and was totally fine riding him, despite a random spook at a jump standard that wasn't there yesterday, but when I got off I was so worried about cross tying him that I actually felt sick. He wears a cribbing collar in his stall and can be a brat when I put it back on, and the thought of him even tossing his head while cross tied was too much. I ended up untacking in his stall.

    How do I get over this... and what the heck happened to me?! It's not like I've never experienced anything like this before (albeit not since I started riding again), and the original incident ended up pretty minor... so... why the fear? I never thought twice about cross tying my lease until now, but now even the thought makes me nervous. How do I deal?

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    I have seen it many times in my adult re-rider students. As adults, we suddenly realize our mortality.... something we never really thought about as kids!

    Just keep interacting with the horses....it will pass. If not, talk to a counselor about it.... while horses ARE potentially dangerous, if we handle them in a safe, competant manner (which sounds like you are completely capable of) accidents should be few, far between and (hopefully) mild in nature.

    Continuing your interaction with them will slowly help rebuild your confidence.
    Concordia means "Harmony" in Latin.
    Full Time Dressage Addict

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    • #3
      I just started riding again after 2 years off and I am deathly afraid of falling & re-injuring myself. I haven't fallen yet and I take every precaution to stay on....but at the end of the day a horse is a horse.

      The point is it will take time for you to be okay. Mentally it takes time to process things and realize that it wasn't you & it wasn't your horse. Maybe your horse will spook on the ties and maybe he won't but if you are nervous he will then the horse will be nervous too. There may have been other factors contributing to the horses freak out that you didn't see.

      I think the big thing is the fear of what happens if xyz happens to me. It will take some time and maybe a spook to realize that if it does happen it's not the end of the world and its another day with horses.
      "The horse you get off f is not the same horse you got on. It is your job as a rider to ensure that as often as possible, the change is for the better" - unknown author

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      • #4
        I'd guess it's natural for you to feel anxious. You got bowled over and now you're worried about how badly you could have been hurt.

        Put on your helmet and spend some time with him on his terms. Slow down. Rushing through the grooming may make him more anxious, which will make you more anxious .....

        Put a hand on his belly and breathe with him. When you're comfortable doing that, put your belly next to his, and focus breathing in and out, in and out, with him. Let him help you relax.

        If you're comfortable working with him loose in his stall: put a hand on his shoulder and keep it there while he moves around. Or on his face. Just focus on breathing deeply and on moving with him. If he stands, you stand. If he moves, you move with him. What you'll learn is how to key in more closely, so you're better equipped to anticipate his movement. They don't just take off. There are subtle changes in breathing and muscle tone that can alert you, if you are watching for them.

        Wear your helmet as much as you want.

        Have fun - this will pass.

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        • #5
          Time. My first horse coming back was a rescue. Once I got some weight on him, he became really difficult to handle. I had some days when I said, "to hell with it." Eventually the days I sucked it up outnumbered the days I ran away. At some point there was a real shift in my thinking, and I ceased to doubt that I had control. Now, I'm right back to being too stupid (or too obsessed) to be scared.
          "Rock n' roll's not through, yeah, I'm sewing wings on this thing." --Destroyer
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          • #6
            Originally posted by stryder View Post
            Put a hand on his belly and breathe with him. When you're comfortable doing that, put your belly next to his, and focus breathing in and out, in and out, with him. Let him help you relax.
            OMG. I thought my old horse came up with this on his own.

            When I first got him, I was an incredibly terrified adult novice. When I'd start to tack him up, I'd be so scared I was hyperventilating.

            One day, early on in our relationship, he sidled over very slowly, and rubbed the side of his tummy against mine, over and over, breathing very slowly. It worked! I calmed down immediately. He used to do this whenever he thought I was nervous, and it really did help.

            I guess someone must've taught him this, huh?

            Anyway, OP, I think Concordia has it right. I had a similar moment, when I was nearly caught between two horses roughhousing in the pasture. I was terrified of going into the pasture to catch a horse for quite a while afterwards. Finally I got my RI to help me get past it. First, I'd walk with her while she caught horses, then she'd walk with me, then she'd stand at the gate, etc.

            All to say it's just a matter of slowly working back up to doing whatever it was you were doing when you had your traumatic experience.

            Although I don't know that it's really necessary to ever cross-tie - but that's another thread (and one we had before).
            I'm not ignoring the rules. I'm interpreting the rules. Tamal, The Great British Baking Show

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            • #7
              Originally posted by pAin't_Misbehavin' View Post
              OMG. I thought my old horse came up with this on his own.

              When I first got him, I was an incredibly terrified adult novice. When I'd start to tack him up, I'd be so scared I was hyperventilating.

              One day, early on in our relationship, he sidled over very slowly, and rubbed the side of his tummy against mine, over and over, breathing very slowly. It worked! I calmed down immediately. He used to do this whenever he thought I was nervous, and it really did help.

              I guess someone must've taught him this, huh?
              Too funny!

              God bless those giant four-legged mood rings. We only think we're fooling them!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by stryder View Post
                Too funny!

                God bless those giant four-legged mood rings. We only think we're fooling them!
                Oh, I knew I wasn't fooling anybody. Srsly - is tummy-rubbing a standard method, that Bram might have learned somewhere? You're the only person I've ever heard suggest it -my barnmates at the time had certainly never seen it done before.
                I'm not ignoring the rules. I'm interpreting the rules. Tamal, The Great British Baking Show

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                • #9
                  I don't know if it's standard, but getting on my mare's page is the thing I've learned to do. She can help me calm down, if I let her. And I can keep her attention, if I'm mindful. The key to it for us, is breathing.

                  Ever notice how horses stop breathing just before they startle? I'm out with my horse, hand-grazing. Horse stops breathing and chewing, then lifts his head, then judges the "threat" and decides whether to take off. I'm in his herd. I feel him stop breathing, so I exhale. My bet is, he'll start breathing again and resume eating. My experience is, this is much more effective than my yakking, "you're OK." I've only got a second, or less, to make my point.

                  Sometimes I get my mare in her stall and put my hand on her. She feels tense and kind of flighty. So I work with her in her stall, just keep a hand on her as she moves around, and work up to getting one on her forehead, the other on her belly. And breathe. Then I can get my belly next to hers, and breathe. She'll let out a big sigh. Her muscles are solid and smooth, no longer flighty. She's tuned into me. Then she's good to go.

                  I don't know if Bram's behavior was learned or instinctive, but it was definitely a gift to you.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by stryder View Post
                    I don't know if Bram's behavior was learned or instinctive, but it was definitely a gift to you.
                    Agreed. He earned his retirement.
                    I'm not ignoring the rules. I'm interpreting the rules. Tamal, The Great British Baking Show

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