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    Good handling of a spooked Clyde at Disney

    Could have been disastrous but handlers seemed to keep the situation in control. I’d have been terrified in that saddle, in that dress, on that concrete, with no helmet!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnXZP-4UX-E

    #2
    After having heard so many people be all up in arms about how horrible it was that the horse acted this way (people proclaiming that Disney should have a better trained horse) I finally saw the video today and I was impressed with how well everyone handled the situation, including the poor horse.
    Handlers did a great job. Rider did a great job (staying on so well and then jumping off, what looked like easily). Poor horse was sure it was being eaten by that balloon and with all the things it could have been doing it held it together really well.

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      #3
      I would have liked to see how they got the balloon off. I think best case would be to cut it but who has a pair of scissors when you need it?

      Can't believe people thought that wasn't handled well? Kudos to them all! That could have been a disaster.

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        #4
        I hope they got the idiot who looks to have kind of tossed the balloon at the horse for whatever reason??

        Aside from that I think having a normally calm horse helped a lot and the handlers kept their cool as well as the rider.

        I was hoping they would show us how they got it off.

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          #5
          Originally posted by candyappy View Post
          I hope they got the idiot who looks to have kind of tossed the balloon at the horse for whatever reason??
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          From what I have read there is not an idiot who looks to have kind of tossed the balloon at the horse. A father jumped out to grab their kid who was darting out into the road and the bloom flying was an accident.

          The whole thing was just an accident where the horse did its best to not explode, the handlers did an amazing job helping the horse not explode.

          No hate needed for anyone.

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            #6
            I thought they did a good job and that actress has some decent skills. Gives me an idea for a new obstacle challenge...

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              #7
              Originally posted by trubandloki View Post

              From what I have read there is not an idiot who looks to have kind of tossed the balloon at the horse. A father jumped out to grab their kid who was darting out into the road and the bloom flying was an accident.

              The whole thing was just an accident where the horse did its best to not explode, the handlers did an amazing job helping the horse not explode.

              No hate needed for anyone.
              Not hating anyone. I saw a man throw his hand out and the balloon wrapped around the horses leg. Nowhere did I see a child. Looked like he did it intentionally from the video. I can only go on what I see.

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                #8
                Actually, come to think of it, since the horse calmed down, I think I would quietly walk him back to the stable area and let him learn that the balloon won't hurt him. If it pops on the way, he can learn about that, too. Probably safer than wrestling it off on a paved street. I'd do some despooking work with balloons before bringing him back out. He is likely to react next time he sees one unless he can desensitize to them.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by candyappy View Post

                  Not hating anyone. I saw a man throw his hand out and the balloon wrapped around the horses leg. Nowhere did I see a child. Looked like he did it intentionally from the video. I can only go on what I see.
                  I think the balloon came from the child’s hand that was out of the view of the camera frame. It was an accident for sure.

                  Edit: it’s in the caption of the video- a toddler ran out and the dad grabbed him and the toddler let go of the balloon on accident. It wasn’t intentional.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Moonlitoaks View Post
                    Actually, come to think of it, since the horse calmed down, I think I would quietly walk him back to the stable area and let him learn that the balloon won't hurt him. If it pops on the way, he can learn about that, too. Probably safer than wrestling it off on a paved street. I'd do some despooking work with balloons before bringing him back out. He is likely to react next time he sees one unless he can desensitize to them.
                    I‘m sure the horse is fine with balloons as I’m sure Disney has an extensive desensitization training process for their parade horses. The issue was the sudden wrapping around the leg, pretty hard to densensitize against that as it would be dangerous to do so. I can’t blame the horse at all and I think he was a good boy who tried to be as calm as he could given the circumstance.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by S1969 View Post
                      I would have liked to see how they got the balloon off. I think best case would be to cut it but who has a pair of scissors when you need it?

                      Can't believe people thought that wasn't handled well? Kudos to them all! That could have been a disaster.

                      I agree!! I thought they did great.

                      I also want to find out how they got the balloon off of him as well! I’d probably go He-Man strength and rip it with my fingers. If anyone can find another video, feel free to share here!
                      Last edited by Fiona_785; Jul. 13, 2020, 03:56 PM. Reason: Word

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                        #12
                        Honestly, that's kind of one of the nice things about draft horses. As much as that horse was protesting, it appeared almost in slow-mo (as many responses from draft horses can)...can you imagine if that was a lighter breed horse? The response was VERY reasonable given the situation - had the horse been able to dislodge the balloon, the whole ordeal would have been over.

                        Good for the handlers.
                        Do not spoil what you have by desiring what you have not. Remember that what you have now was once among the many things that you only hoped for.

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                          #13
                          My horse picked up a length of barbed wire in her tail when we were riding on the side of the road, and it didn't really scare her that much until she dragged it onto the pavement and the noise scared her. One of the guys we were with jumped off his horse and grabbed the wire and pulled it out of her tail, although that might not have been possible in this situation once the string was wrapped around the horse's leg?

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                            #14
                            Nicely handled by everyone involved!

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                              #15
                              The horse looked like a calm animal overall. It's a good thing the ground handlers were there - they prevented the horse from possibly bolting.

                              It can be hard to anticipate every weird thing that can go wrong when riding a horse in public, much less a parade. I'd desensitize a horse to balloons before taking him to a parade but I'm not sure it would occur to me to desensitize him to having a balloon tied right to his leg. Not that my horse is even remotely parade suitable...

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                                #16
                                It's fairly standard in Western trail riding to teach a horse to stand calmly if its foot gets tangled up in rope or to wear hobbles. It can be done.
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                                  Originally posted by Scribbler View Post
                                  It's fairly standard in Western trail riding to teach a horse to stand calmly if its foot gets tangled up in rope or to wear hobbles. It can be done.
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                                  Of course it can be done. Who’s to say they didn’t do that with this horse? Considering how he could have exploded, I think he did alright. And I suspect his handlers know that he needs more work on stopping and standing when something touches his legs. They’re aware that these animals will be near unpredictable children, so I’d venture that the horses get continuous training on things like this.

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                                    #18
                                    I'm going to bet this becomes the "obstacle training object for the week" on the Disney back lot.

                                    I had one horse that was forced to eat in his 12X24 surrounded by balloons tied to the railing, flapping in the breeze. Boy, did he hate that for the first 8 hours.

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                                      #19
                                      In reading through the comments, there is some interesting history about the Tri-Circle D ranch (tri-circle = Mickey's ears and head) and about this horse. Also interesting to read that you can adopt a Disney horse at its retirement, or at least you could at the time that article was written. Apparently, this horse's name is Jacob, and he was an orphan foal with issues, so it is nice to see what a team player and how trusting of his handlers he has come to be.

                                      Also, I just love Disney. If you watch this 7,479 times when you should have been catching up on a work deadline, you may notice that even the employees who work in the shops along the street have been trained in how to handle something like this -- a couple of them are guiding guests off the street into the shops, and other cast members are using radios and hand signals, while those that aren't involved step back and stand still with their arms in relaxed positions. Lots and lots of training. Wicked cool.

                                      https://www.mouseplanet.com/10620/The_TriCircleD_Story

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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Scribbler View Post
                                        It's fairly standard in Western trail riding to teach a horse to stand calmly if its foot gets tangled up in rope or to wear hobbles. It can be done.
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                                        yes, this is true. I'm really surprised that Disney didn't insist on having this scenario trained for- Desensitization 101

                                        I trained a couple equids for parade street riding and we really prepared them for anything that could possibly happen. BUT I
                                        never ever believed they would put fire engines or booming bands directly behind us. Those were impossible to prep for. But it happens.
                                        The last holding handler saved the day here.
                                        "There is no fundamental difference between man and animals in their ability to feel pleasure and pain, happiness, and misery." - Charles Darwin

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