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Fun musings: Vision vs. reality of owning a Gypsy Vanner (or other similarly excessively haired horse)?

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    #41
    Hanging bails are sort of like the swinging bars between cow stanchions. It is an easy way to create tie stalls of any width using minimal material. (from a very tight stall, like a trailer standing stall width, to a wide tie stall that allows the horse to lie down.) You can add or remove them depending on the numbers of horses. Generally, in such an arrangement there is a long single trough running the length of the stable for grain/hay at the front, to which the horse is tied.
    The nice thing with hanging bails, and why fairs use them, is that you can remove them and then bring in a drag (in the old days) or a front end loader today and clear out the bedding and manure very quickly because you can go the long length of the stable rather than each stall individually.
    Horses stabled in them do need to get along with each other, because there is no wall between them, just a single bar.

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      #42
      Originally posted by suz View Post

      Sorry i still don't understand. What was the use of these things? How exactly did it allow one to keep large numbers of horses?
      Many school horses in Europe decades ago lives in tie/standing stalls.
      They were tethered to the front, generally a manger and between horses was some kind of plank or pole or chain only.
      A horse had to be with others that he got along, you had to watch for that.
      That the division between horses could swing was so when they laid down, it would move away, but when standing, they would not push on the other horse.
      We even had stallions like that and they were gentlemen, never acted studdy at all.

      Horses love their own place and some older school horses, when we had an opening in a box stall and would think they may enjoy that, if someone left the stall door open, horse would run back to its old tie stall and stand there.

      Horses were handled several times a day for lessons and, since the only water was a common trough, were led to the trough many times a day to drink, so handled and moved around plenty.
      Horses in stalls would stand around on their own as much as those in tie stalls.

      I think draft horse barns still use tie stalls.

      Here is a picture of one such setting:

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        #43
        I've learned to drive recently and instructor has gypsies. Love the one I've been driving for over a year, but no desire to own all that hair. The one's I've met have all been
        very sweet and docile, a little on lazy side if anything. He seems to enjoy being driven, much more so than ridden.

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          #44
          Had one at a barn I rode at once... That "never had a My Little Pony" thing is dead on, I remember the tangles in my Barbie horse's mane....!

          Anyway, pony was a good egg with decent foundations, extremely fancy in the looks department, but prone to high spirits and actually a pretty small thing under the hair. Owner was just not suited to him, in size or experience. And when she gave up and sold him on, he went to an inexperienced kid who looked like she was about to hit a growth spurt. I hope they figured out things quickly and he somehow ended up in the hands of someone who could appreciate him, or at least afford to keep him as a pet.

          He was on a dry gravel lot when I knew him, so mud was never a problem...also it helped with his air fern tendency (definitely bred to do heavy work on no feed). But dust was a nuisance (I feel like you would have to have a blower for grooming or you'd go insane). Farrier wanted his legs wrapped to keep the feather out of the way. And he had a crowded mouth...rows of teeth piled up, like a shark, haha.

          I would definitely have taken the clippers to him if he were mine, but not much to do about the tail... Even if you banged it short, it was so wide and curly.

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            #45
            My current Morgan is the first that I have allowed to keep "big hair". He is a palomino and just too cute with the long mane. I did spend time this hot morning putting some braids in to keep him cooler, but I dont do that very often. Mane and tail I can work with - but hairy legs? No thank you!

            Many years ago I went to a dressage clinic at a beautiful, very fancy place. Sprinkled in with lovely WBs and TBs were some hairy spotted horses. This was when Gypsy Vanners and the like were first gaining popularity here. The Irish owner was importing some "Coloured Cobs" and selling for a pretty profit!

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              #46
              For a few minutes entertainment, have a scroll through www.dragondriving.co.uk at the cobs for sale and stallions at stud. Some are quite magnificent but it most definitely isn't Horse & Hound! There are a lot more riding horses and Welsh ponies than last time I looked but still lots of "big steppers with loads of feather".

              References such as "will do 5 or 30" refer to the speed mph when road racing and there are references to famous sires known by the owners name "John Smith's Big Black". Appleby remains the biggest traditional horse fair in England. Contact details such as "Ron in Loughton" are a sign saying buyer be careful - but in reality many travellers have an excellent eye and really know bloodlines and produce some lovely ponies. On the other hand, hairy coloured cobs suffer from indiscriminate breeding, turned out on waste ground with no concern for welfare, because for many owners it is number rather than quality that counts.
              Last edited by Willesdon; Jul. 15, 2020, 11:59 AM. Reason: Spellinng
              "Good young horses are bred, but good advanced horses are trained" Sam Griffiths

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