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    Holding a horse for new owner?

    I have been trying to place one of my horses in a companion home for some time. I had someone come look at him and they loved him. My horse seemed to like them as well and he usually is more suspicious of people. Of course they brought food so that helped.

    But they do not have fencing or facilities for a horse- they just recently moved in. They will have to build a small paddock for him to start with- i suggested a drylot because he will probably need one. He will eventually have a 2 acre pasture and be an only horse.

    I think he will probably be fine as an only horse. That doesn't bother me. He is rather independent to begin with. I really don't think he would like a goat as a companion either... if given a goat, he'd probably terrorize it and chase it until it climbed the fence...

    My concern is how long it might take them to build the facilities...It sounds like they want to do the fencing themselves and given the high temperatures and their work schedule, that could take a while. I'm not exactly in a rush to get rid of him but i don't want to wait 6 months either. At least I don't have to worry about them flipping horses, especially with the time, money, and work involved with building your own facilities.

    The lady hasn't had horses since she was a child and just wants a pasture pet to love on. She lives close enough that I can always drive past and visually check on him. So it sounds like it could work... The suspicious part of me keeps thinking of ways this could go wrong.

    Obviously no paperwork has been signed. But I'm thinking of setting some sort of deadline. A small paddock shouldn't take months to build, should it? What would be a reasonable amount of time? If they back out, i will be starting my search over.

    #2
    We can build a small paddock in a weekend, but we have experience building pens and paddocks. Will the horse have shelter?

    Perhaps you could take him off the market, but not transfer him until their fences and barn is built. Ask them when they think they can build it by and add two weeks. If you can hold him that long, I suppose that's good.

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      #3
      I don't think you can be too demanding when someone is willing to take on a pasture pet. I would not set a deadline or put pressure on them. I would be gracious as possible.

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        #4
        I agree with BeeHoney. I have a horse I am giving to the person who owned and adored her dam. This horse is a clone of her dam and is super kind. It is a great home. For various reasons I have been holding this horse for her for six months. I would keep the horse anyway if she didn't take her as I don't want her to end up somewhere bad. So to me she can pick her up whenever she is finally able. She does have legitimate reasons for not being able to get her.

        If you think it's a great home and you have no other options, I wouldn't put pressure on her.

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          #5
          It IS reasonable to ask for a time line, tho! Are they planning on building paddock and shelter this summer or next year.....

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            #6
            I guess I'm in the minority but no, I would not hold the horse for them. Good placement opp'ys for pasture pets so rare. So If an alternative owner materializes, it would be foolish to pass that up while waiting on this one to build out her facilities. You have no assurance that their interest (or horsekeeping budget) won't sputter once they price out the cost of fencing, installing water, etc.

            I would tell them they have first dibs if he's still available when their facility is ready. And reassure them that good homes for pasture pets are always in short supply, so even if your Dobbin has been placed elsewhere, all of the vets and farriers in the area probably know of at least one horse who might be a good fit for them.

            I'd place way more stock in evaluating the future owner's facility vs their personality. Horses do just fine if they're not showered with affection every day. If I couldn't keep a horse, I'd much sooner choose a retirement home that already has safe fencing, good shelter, reliable hay supplier and frost-proof water supply, even if the owner isn't all that warm and affectionate, vs. a home where the owner looooooves the horsie, and gives him scritches five times a day, but who does not have a good, sustainable setup for horsekeeping yet.

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              #7
              If he was mine and I was as fond of him as you say you are , I would be happy to wait until they were completely ready for him. They are doing you a favor really by taking him off your hands. Just see if they will contribute to his feed and health needs while they get the fencing up.

              You want this to be a good fit for them and him.

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                #8
                I am with HH, would let the horse go to a qualified home, not hold it. You THINK this woman will take him, eventually. By the time she gets things around to keep him safe, she may have "fallen out of love" when faced with never ending expenses of keeping a horse.

                OP may not find another taker before lady is ready. But if a qualified person showed up on my doorstep, the horse would go with them. Can't tell you how many times folks SAY they will absolutely take something! They want to buy your puppy, tractor, whatever, then back out or never show up again. You have lost other sales, waiting on them, because you are trying to be a good seller.

                These days I tell people "First money in my hand gets the item." I will not promise to hold anything. I will call to tell them someone else got it first, save them a trip.

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                  #9
                  I think it took 3 guys about a week, working 3-4 hrs after their regular job, to build my paddock and small (100x100 ish) pasture. Paddock is just 2 board fencing, pasture they did 3 strands of Ramm coated wire. I'd think a small paddock could be done in a week very reasonably.
                  That's fine, many of us have slid down this slippery slope and became very happy (and broke) doing it. We may not have a retirement, but we have memories ...

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                    #10
                    Do you these people really know anything about horses? Having one as a child is not really the same as actually knowing how to care for one and the responsibilities involved in having one.

                    In my area, New England, I see this heading one way: horsey standing in a small mud lot, falling apart shed, horse sees farrier the bare minimum and has nasty thrush due to the mud, mane and tail are a tangled mess, horsey has some rain rot as his back has been swaying as he's gotten older and he doesn't get groomed enough, and he's a bit thin since they didn't know to get his teeth done or because they decided he was lonely and got some bossy little pony for free to keep him company that's eating EVERYTHING.

                    That might not be the case at all, but I would certainly be cautious. And no, I would not hold the horse for them if another perfect home for him came along. There are a million pet horses out there and I'm sure they'll be able to find another if they are serious.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by 4horses View Post
                      I have been trying to place one of my horses in a companion home for some time.
                      Keep him advertised and see if someone else comes along while she gets her place ready and hold off on the paperwork until she is ready to take him.

                      Doesn't sound like you have too many people banging down your door to take him.

                      If he finds a new home she can keep looking.

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                        Originally posted by goodhors View Post
                        I am with HH, would let the horse go to a qualified home, not hold it. You THINK this woman will take him, eventually. By the time she gets things around to keep him safe, she may have "fallen out of love" when faced with never ending expenses of keeping a horse.

                        OP may not find another taker before lady is ready. But if a qualified person showed up on my doorstep, the horse would go with them. Can't tell you how many times folks SAY they will absolutely take something! They want to buy your puppy, tractor, whatever, then back out or never show up again. You have lost other sales, waiting on them, because you are trying to be a good seller.

                        These days I tell people "First money in my hand gets the item." I will not promise to hold anything. I will call to tell them someone else got it first, save them a trip.
                        All y'all who want to tell the person taking your pasture puff horse that you "won't hold him" as a way to coerce quicker fence-building?

                        Why do you think you have something of value? You are giving away a horse who has no value to you or to most horsemen. You can want what you want, but don't lean too hard on the person who is doing you a favor.

                        That said, I might tactfully "not hold him" this way: I'd continue to keep my ears peeled and my eyes pricked for a retirement home for my horse. If a serious contender comes along, someone you'd actually prefer to this lady, then call her and let her know that this happened, but that you and she had an agreement in place, and was she ready to take him yet?

                        If she doesn't get right on the fence project, go to your Plan B and the second, equally great home. We all should be so lucky to have two owners competing for our unrideable horses. Wishing you and him the best home!

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                          #13
                          People have good intentions but if they don't actually know about horses they tend to have a short attention span. I guess I am really suspicious of giving someone a pasture ornament since I have seen it not work out well at all. If they don't even have a place yet I honestly doubt that this was serious.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by xeroxchick View Post
                            People have good intentions but if they don't actually know about horses they tend to have a short attention span. I guess I am really suspicious of giving someone a pasture ornament since I have seen it not work out well at all. If they don't even have a place yet I honestly doubt that this was serious.
                            Have to agree with this. I never give away horses, seen way too many poor situations develop, horses go downhill in those cases. Even the Vet agreed, not seen many "happy endings" for the unsound or old horses. They do not even get put down in a timely fashion, suffer whlle waiting. For me, better to put them down for a quick ending, no drawn out issues. Having horses as a child is not enough recommend to me, for her to be a knowledgeable horse owner. Would not to let my pasture pet go to her.

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                              #15
                              It would be super easy to ask the potential new horse owner, "what kind of time-frame where you thinking to get this done?" For all we know they may be planning to put up the paddock this weekend and be ready on Monday! Communication is a good place to start.
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by mvp View Post

                                All y'all who want to tell the person taking your pasture puff horse that you "won't hold him" as a way to coerce quicker fence-building?

                                Why do you think you have something of value? You are giving away a horse who has no value to you or to most horsemen. You can want what you want, but don't lean too hard on the person who is doing you a favor.

                                That said, I might tactfully "not hold him" this way: I'd continue to keep my ears peeled and my eyes pricked for a retirement home for my horse. If a serious contender comes along, someone you'd actually prefer to this lady, then call her and let her know that this happened, but that you and she had an agreement in place, and was she ready to take him yet?

                                If she doesn't get right on the fence project, go to your Plan B and the second, equally great home. We all should be so lucky to have two owners competing for our unrideable horses. Wishing you and him the best home!
                                Pretty big misrepresentation of what I proposed. I was simply saying that I would keep the listing active, keep the feelers out. And if another home materialized (unlikely, as I said, because they are rare) the horse should go to the good home that's ready for it.

                                The OP does not have a viable home for the horse yet in this person. All she has is an owner who says the right things but so far has not actually done any of them. I agree with the other comment that someone who owned a horse when they were a little kid does not automatically mean they are ready and equipped to own a horse now.
                                So, I'll continue to keep this horse's options open. In the unlikely event that I find a home for my horse before this person is ready for horse ownership, there will be a unlimited supply of other horses needing the great home they've prepared. So they are out nothing, my horse is safe, and everyone is all good. What's the harm here?

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                                  #17
                                  Sounds like they want to buy the horse but don’t have the facility setup ready yet....so if it’s a time thing, either have them make a deposit or pay in full and then they can take their grand old time.
                                  If you’re at A boarding facility I would have them pay and also give them a deadline where you stop paying the board and it’s their job now

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                                    #18
                                    I do have a second person interested, but they are not quite ready yet either- just moved to a new property last week, still unpacking etc. I think they actually sound like a better home, as they already have facilities.

                                    I know the lady who currently wants him is serious, I'm just not certain her family - that she expects to do the fencing- is particularly supportive of her idea. I know how my family would react if i told them to build a fence in the 100 degree temperatures we are having. Pigs might fly first! Or i would be told to hire someone else.

                                    If she cannot give me any sort of time frame, then i think it might be better to keep looking. I will call her and talk to her.

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