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    Hands-free device while riding?

    I had a bit of a random situation today. As a start, I live in the UK, so I was riding a house near my house as part of my daily (once in a day) routine exercise and was on the phone with a friend, when I was approached by a police officer who told me….drum roll…. that (a) I should not be out in due to the lockdown (…fair enough I suppose) and (b) that I should be using a hands-free device if I want to use my phone.

    I mean seriously?! If there a law for that!? I am not driving a car or something, I had have never heard that the same rules apply to horse riders? Has anyone come across this before? I mean, what I think a more likely explanation was that the police guy was just not too happy to see me outside for what he considered to be a ‘non-essential’ reason, so that was just a pretext, nor did I want to really argue with him. But still…

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    Bored policeman swinging his authority around. Has Britain gone to "shelter in place"-- as in you cannot go outdoors? I suspect he was wrong on both counts here. And no, I've never heard of a cop hassling anyone on horseback for talking on the phone.

    My DH and I were hassled by a cop for walking our dogs in a vast school parking lot--totally empty of cars and humans mind you and school not in session here last week. Three times over three days. It was ridiculous and clearly the sign of a cop with nothing to do but cruise around looking for stuff to do. We are school employees and have permission to use the facility. this way, which we shared with the officer(s). They left after we said that.
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      #3
      I hope they don't try to keep people from going outside too! I guess if you were on public trails that might be closed to walkers & vehicles he could have grounds for stopping you, but your phone issue seems a bit off the wall.

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        #4
        “Should” is interesting, if that’s what the officer said. Either your locality has a law against it or it doesn’t, you’d be able to look that up pretty easily.

        There are now USEF/USHJA rules limiting use of electronic devices (with or without earbuds) while mounted or lunging at shows - mainly adopted because of the distraction they cause. So you are obviously in a different situation hacking out by yourself, but one might argue that the theory still applies and that it’s ideal to keep “two hands on the wheel”. . .

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          #5
          I think that holding a phone while riding is potentially dangerous. I especially dislike seeing people texting on horseback while they wander around the indoor arena.

          I think an earbud is much safer but honestly except for emergency I don't think you should be talking on the phone while riding or handling a horse. You need all your attention present.
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            #6
            A smart watch is perfect.

            I have an older style Samsung one I got from cash converters so it was fairly cheap. It takes photos and videos, which a lot of the new ones don't do and it is easier to.hear than a smart phone, as well as not having to take your hands off the reins.

            In an arena I can leave the phone at B. Trail riding you have to take the phone with you.
            It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.

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              #7
              Look up the BHS webpage. It has information about riding during the lockdown. I agree with others that talking on a phone while riding is not very sensible, especially as you probably don't want to end up in A&E right now.
              "Good young horses are bred, but good advanced horses are trained" Sam Griffiths

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                #8
                I have no idea what the law says on whether you're allowed to ride during shutdown, or using a phone while riding (seems like it would be fairly simple for you to google this, no?) But holding your phone in your hand while riding is a good way to drop it, or the reins, at an inopportune time. Why not just use a noise cancelling wireless headset? They're inexpensive -- I mean, sure, you can buy Apple airpods if you want, but for less than half the price you can get something like the Plantronics Voyager. It has great sound quality on both ends of the call, stays put in my ear, and is so light I don't notice I'm wearing it. Supports voice dialing, and it tells you who's calling when your phone rings, so you can decide to answer or ignore without pulling your phone out to look.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Marthamatic View Post
                  I am not driving a car or something, I had have never heard that the same rules apply to horse riders? Has anyone come across this before?
                  It depends on how your road rules view horses. If your jurisdiction has a law against hand-held phones, and the road rules say horse riders must obey the same rules as vehicles, then you cannot use a hand-held phone while riding a horse on a public road.

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                    #10
                    I only ever answer my phone when riding a horse if I'm happy with the idea of it falling out of my hands and shattering to pieces. As, should the horse require my full, 2-handattention, it will be a choice between broken neck and broken phone.

                    Seriously tho, I suppsoe the law must define that the horse is a vehicle so I guess the same rules apply while riding as driving, I never thought of it in this way before.

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                      #11
                      I have a wireless earpiece that I use. Fits into one ear, leaves me completely aware of ambient noise. I don't talk on the phone often while riding, but when I do it's a winner. People can hear me just fine and my phone stays zipped in a pocket.
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Marthamatic View Post
                        I had a bit of a random situation today. As a start, I live in the UK, so I was riding a house near my house as part of my daily (once in a day) routine exercise and was on the phone with a friend, when I was approached by a police officer who told me….drum roll…. that (a) I should not be out in due to the lockdown (…fair enough I suppose) and (b) that I should be using a hands-free device if I want to use my phone.

                        I mean seriously?! If there a law for that!? I am not driving a car or something, I had have never heard that the same rules apply to horse riders? Has anyone come across this before? I mean, what I think a more likely explanation was that the police guy was just not too happy to see me outside for what he considered to be a ‘non-essential’ reason, so that was just a pretext, nor did I want to really argue with him. But still…
                        The officer was right, but perhaps for the wrong reasons.

                        If you are astride then THAT is your job. Not chit-chatting, not being engrossed in music, or playing a video game (all of which I've actually seen).

                        Ride the horse under you when ever you're up. If you want to do something else then get down and walk.

                        G.
                        Mangalarga Marchador: Uma Raa, Uma Paixo

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                          #13
                          In US, I recall reading of both bicyclers and horseback riders being arrested for driving.riding while drunk, so some car rules apply to horseback riders.
                          Im of a mind it’s safer not to be distracted and that your horse deserves your attention too. We ask a lot of them, and they should always be listening to us, we could return the favor

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                            #14
                            I don't understand why anyone would want the distraction of a phone call while riding. I would rather immerse myself in the partnership with my horse. Spending the time on horseback talking on the phone seems like a waste of a ride.

                            Rebecca

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by RMJacobs View Post
                              I don't understand why anyone would want the distraction of a phone call while riding. I would rather immerse myself in the partnership with my horse. Spending the time on horseback talking on the phone seems like a waste of a ride.

                              Rebecca
                              Because if you work for yourself you only get a job if you are called. I can have the day off until I am called in for work. If I don't answer they just ring the next person.

                              If I answer I find out what work it is and when and if I can finish my ride or have to dismount straight away.

                              If I dont work I can't afford to keep the horses.
                              It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.

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                                #16
                                Originally posted by SuzieQNutter View Post

                                Because if you work for yourself you only get a job if you are called. I can have the day off until I am called in for work. If I don't answer they just ring the next person.

                                If I answer I find out what work it is and when and if I can finish my ride or have to dismount straight away.

                                If I dont work I can't afford to keep the horses.
                                Yes, I work for myself. When I client calls, I answer. I also get calls about my parents that need immediate action, especially now when my father is in a retirement community in NYC. I don't want to be fumbling with a phone, but I do want to be able to answer.
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                                  #17
                                  With the smart watch you can turn on voice commands and say answer between the rings without taking your hands off the reins.
                                  It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.

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                                    #18
                                    SuzieQNutter and Bogie, needing to answer a business call makes perfect sense to me. But the OP was talking to a friend while riding, which most likely wasn't a business or urgent call (although I guess it could be). The talking to a friend thing was what I didn't understand--that should be entirely voluntary, and therefore not something I personally would let infringe on horse time.

                                    When I was still working, I was on call a lot, doing system support. If I didn't drive my ponies while I was on call, I would miss a lot of weekends driving. Since I drove in my neighborhood, I made sure my husband was home when I was out with a pony, and I didn't get too far from the house. If I received a work call, I would pull to the side of the road to take it. It almost always required logging into work to resolve these calls, so my husband would be available to head a pony for me when I drove home to log in. Most of those calls had a fast resolution, so I wasn't usually tying him up for long. So I do get the difference with business calls. I only answered the work phone while I was out with a pony. My own cell phone stayed in my pocket regardless of whether or not it rang.

                                    Rebecca

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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Scribbler View Post
                                      I think that holding a phone while riding is potentially dangerous. I especially dislike seeing people texting on horseback while they wander around the indoor arena.

                                      I think an earbud is much safer but honestly except for emergency I don't think you should be talking on the phone while riding or handling a horse. You need all your attention present.
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                                      I completely agree and it is, perhaps, one of those situations where you unnecessarily expose yourself to an unjustified level of risk... yet as long as that is not against the law (and I would probably go a bit further by saying that, as long as it does not put at risk any other person (or someone else's property), that should not be anyone else's business... People do all sorts of crazy and extreme things, extreme sports etc., yet that is allowed.

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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Willesdon View Post
                                        Look up the BHS webpage. It has information about riding during the lockdown. I agree with others that talking on a phone while riding is not very sensible, especially as you probably don't want to end up in A&E right now.
                                        I've had a quick look online, could not really find anything re: riding phone use...

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