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    How do calculate the price of your lesson/ training?

    Is there a formula you use?

    I know a an instructor who travels to a client client's their own horse may calculate differently from an instructor who teaches out of a stable with lesson horses.

    I haven't taken lessons in a while and I'd like to make an informed decision about whether it would be cost effective.

    TiA



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  • #2
    Originally posted by AnastasiaBeaverhousen View Post

    How do calculate the price of your lesson/ training?

    Is there a formula you use?

    I know a an instructor who travels to a client client's their own horse may calculate differently from an instructor who teaches out of a stable with lesson horses.

    I haven't taken lessons in a while and I'd like to make an informed decision about whether it would be cost effective.

    TiA


    My impression is people charge what the market will bear and try to position themselves realistically vis a vis other trainers with more or less credentials or success. And it really differs by region.

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      #3
      Yes. I understand.
      I recently asked a dressage instructor how much it would be to ride my horse.

      A: $75.00. For 20 minutes

      I managed to be polite and not laugh in her face.

      I get that she's not young and it's a risk to ride a horse that she doesn't know.

      I know she uses gas to get to the barn and back home and that she is not close.

      But I wasnt asking her to school him in upper level movements or get him ready for a show.

      I just wanted someone to ride him as I havent been able to and remind him he still has a job.

      I'm at a private barn and its small. There is another rider but she's an older woman and has ponies and doesn't want to ride a horse that's not hers. I wouldnt ask it of her.

      This was before Covid19 btw.

      So I just wanted some opinions from the pros .
      it has been a long time since Ive had lessons or paid for training, so it might be completely reasonable and I just need to get over my sticker shock.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by AnastasiaBeaverhousen View Post
        Yes. I understand.
        I recently asked a dressage instructor how much it would be to ride my horse.

        A: $75.00. For 20 minutes

        I managed to be polite and not laugh in her face.

        I get that she's not young and it's a risk to ride a horse that she doesn't know.

        I know she uses gas to get to the barn and back home and that she is not close.

        But I wasnt asking her to school him in upper level movements or get him ready for a show.

        I just wanted someone to ride him as I havent been able to and remind him he still has a job.

        I'm at a private barn and its small. There is another rider but she's an older woman and has ponies and doesn't want to ride a horse that's not hers. I wouldnt ask it of her.

        This was before Covid19 btw.

        So I just wanted some opinions from the pros .
        it has been a long time since Ive had lessons or paid for training, so it might be completely reasonable and I just need to get over my sticker shock.
        Depends who she is.

        I'd say she deliberately priced herself out of the market.

        Does this person also give lessons? Are you taking lessons from her,? What does she charge?

        My experience is that people who *want* to train charge a bit *less* than their lesson price to do a training ride. Generally they prefer to ride over teaching. It's less annoying. But they also turn down training clients if they aren't comfortable with the horse.

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        • #5
          A price like that tends to be someone that has a strong resume. I am confused about 20 mins ride because I would consider that time as warming up before asking for more technical work. I have paid $65 for my horse to be ridden but its with intention that technical work will be added to exercise so your horse is continuing to learn, rather than it being just exercise.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Scribbler View Post

            My impression is people charge what the market will bear and try to position themselves realistically vis a vis other trainers with more or less credentials or success. And it really differs by region.
            Yes, I think that is the case. I'm sure there is a formula, but if your local community won't support a price higher than $X, it doesn't really matter what the formula says you should be charging.

            Of course, there is always the "I don't really want to do this, but heck, if they pay me enough I will" pricing.
            "Facts are meaningless. You can use facts to prove anything
            that's even remotely true."

            Homer Simpson

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            • Original Poster

              #7
              She's the instructor if one of the boarders.
              I met her at the barn one day while she was riding the boarders pony.

              I asked her would be willing to ride my horse and she said yes and quoted a price

              She could well have quoted me a high price so to scare me off. I didnt get that vibe from her but it's possible.

              I didnt ask about lessons at the tim I had heard of her but I had never met her.

              I could always try to haggle with her, not sure if she would be insulted or not.

              She teaches well to do ladies so she might have just assumed that I wouldn't find that a little high.

              It's all moot anyway as there is no riding right now.

              thanks for your input.
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              • #8
                I charge my lesson fee, plus travel fee.
                I charge per mile round trip.
                That could easily come to $75, if the mileage adds up.
                if there is more than one rider, they split the travel fee.

                Trainers don't charge less because they are not doing “fancy” stuff. All horses deserve good training, regardless of their level.

                You are paying for the decades of study, and the ability to discern what will benefit your horse in that moment. In other words: the huge amount of time and money they have invested.

                You get what you pay for.

                That said, there are people with an inflated idea of their skill set and value. You have to investigate, and watch them ride a horse like yours. If they talk a big game, but they fight with horses, move on.

                If some one has an excellent reputation for riding the discipline of your choice, and you have seen them ride, and like it, it’s worth paying for good work.
                If you put some yee-haw with no education on your horse and they can wreck it in one ride.

                The twenty minute thing sounds odd...how do you know it’s a twenty minute ride?

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                  #9
                  Thank you.
                  I dont know what her price is for lessons. I am sure it is more.
                  I see what you mean about paying for experience.
                  From what I saw of her riding she seems to be a sympathetic, quiet rider.
                  I think my horse would like her.
                  I don't mind paying her what she's worth, there is just some doubt in mind as to what that is.
                  She was coming out twice a week so if she was willing to ride him, that would be 600.00 a month which I just couldnt do.
                  She might be willing to ride him once a week which would be good but probably not very useful.

                  20 minutes is what she told me. This is for riding him
                  Not a lesson.

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                  • #10
                    I suggest you explain your predicament to her...
                    if you say that it’s simply not possible in your budget to pay her what she’s worth, she may have an advanced student in the area who is available to ride your horse...depending on the appropriateness of the match.

                    I have done this for people, and sometimes they pay for the other rider to have some lessons with me on their horse to get them going in the right direction.
                    There may be a creative solution

                    i still don’t get the 20 minute thing at all. That’s just enough time to warm up....possibly if your horse is very unfit, it’s all that would be aappropriate?

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                    • Original Poster

                      #11
                      That is an idea.
                      I haven't been able to ride and my horse is 19 so 20 minutes probably would be appropriate.
                      Hes not a particularly difficult horse to deal with. He does like to test his rider but he gives in easily.
                      I saw her riding the pony for a few minutes and I didnt see anything that would cause me concern.

                      She does travel around so she may have know of someone in my area who would be willing to ride him for less.

                      I know people trailer in to her place. I dont know if she has her own horses.

                      It'll be a while before I see her again. There's no point in looking right now. Plus BO will have to sign off on it, make sure any rider has their own insurance.

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