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  • Barn with possible case of COVID19

    I live in a state with many cases of COVID19. A shelter in place was just announced but I still was going to the barn (I'm typically the only there at that time.) Not riding, just going to give extra forage and ulcer meds.

    When I arrived last night, I saw the barn owner who was spraying everything down. She informed that one of their barn workers had just left in an ambulance. She had been sick since Saturday and in the middle of feeding, couldn't breathe. They are of course concerned about the possibility of COVID19. They said if she tests positive they will need to shut to boarders for 2 weeks, which I agree with.

    I am not worried about myself but I take care of my grandmother. I'm going to see if my parents can take over for a bit. I think my chances are low of contracting it, I never saw this barn employee face to face. But we certainly were touching similar things the last week.

    I am concerned that the Barn didn't post anything last night. I understand not closing until they know but I think they should let boarders know what happened so they can decide. Who knows what conditions some boarders might have that make them at risk?

    My husband is pretty livid that they had a person that was sick at all there. I will say they seemed very relaxed about the virus in general before this.



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    Originally posted by Lunabear1988 View Post
    I live in a state with many cases of COVID19. A shelter in place was just announced but I still was going to the barn (I'm typically the only there at that time.) Not riding, just going to give extra forage and ulcer meds.

    When I arrived last night, I saw the barn owner who was spraying everything down. She informed that one of their barn workers had just left in an ambulance. She had been sick since Saturday and in the middle of feeding, couldn't breathe. They are of course concerned about the possibility of COVID19. They said if she tests positive they will need to shut to boarders for 2 weeks, which I agree with.

    I am not worried about myself but I take care of my grandmother. I'm going to see if my parents can take over for a bit. I think my chances are low of contracting it, I never saw this barn employee face to face. But we certainly were touching similar things the last week.

    I am concerned that the Barn didn't post anything last night. I understand not closing until they know but I think they should let boarders know what happened so they can decide. Who knows what conditions some boarders might have that make them at risk?

    My husband is pretty livid that they had a person that was sick at all there. I will say they seemed very relaxed about the virus in general before this.

    The barn worker and barn owner were very wrong to allow someone with symptoms to continue working. Those with symptoms are meant to self quarantine even before the stay at home order.

    The barn should be notifying everybody now.

    I expect your chances of getting it are rather low unless you were coughed on by the worker.

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      Scribbler I agree. Personally I think they should have been emailing boarders, posting on FB last night about the situation. But radio silence.

      I'm not clear if she was working the whole time or not. I thankfully didn't have any actual contact with her but am being extra cautious since I care for my 80 year old grandmother. There might others at the barn that are infected and don't know it yet. Or are sick and still working, apparently

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      • #4
        Do you know if other boarders are still coming out? My understanding is that shelter in place means you can't go to the barn to see your horse/ride unless you are a critical employee involved in feeding/necessary care. Maybe they feel like they don't need to post because they're not expecting other boarders to come out.

        If they knew she had symptoms and still allowed her to work I'd question their decision making ability related to other things such as horse care and might be looking for a new barn.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by stargzng386 View Post
          Do you know if other boarders are still coming out? My understanding is that shelter in place means you can't go to the barn to see your horse/ride unless you are a critical employee involved in feeding/necessary care.
          Exactly. There is *so much* here and on other horse forums about people still going to the barn for whatever reason (not self-care barns either).

          Yeah, the worker shouldn't have been working while sick. But (if this is covid) they were contagious even before they had any symptoms; in fact they could have just as easily been one of a large percentage of people who are infectious and show no symptoms at all. Stay the fruitbat home ffs, pookie will live without seeing you for a few weeks.
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            #6
            The shelter in place goes into effect today. So yes, people were going and as far as I understand, there is confusion around here about whether barns can be open or not. Obviously they should close.



            Last Saturday the place was busy with lessons, BO posted photos.

            The only reason I was there was for the ulcer meds. Everytime I've had a barn give meds, there is always a mistake and meds not given. Now I'm going to just hope that they can give it correctly and stay away.

            And yes they knew she was sick... I'm not sure if she was working the whole time or not.

            And barn owner said last night "if she tests positive, we will have to close for 2 weeks." I think that's way too late.

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            • #7
              BO is doing it backward. The barn should be closed NOW until the test comes back NEGATIVE.

              Tests are taking anywhere from 3-10 days to come back. If it comes back positive and only then the barn is closed, people have been walking around touching the same things as this infected person for possibly over a week already.
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                furlong47 agreed!! Not the mention any other barn employees who may have been around her, touched things right after her etc. They might have it and not even know it furthering the spread.

                Many barns in the area are closing because of the shelter in place. I think waiting for a positive test is not a smart move at all. Close now, regardless. It's the right thing to do.

                ​​​​​​​And yes, I know I shouldn't have been there at all, even for 5 minutes to give meds. I was an idiot.

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                • #9
                  That is a barn issue. No barn employee should work if sick. I'm in healthcare. If you were exposed to that individual you can ask for testing through your FP doc or at a drive through testing facility. Just say you were exposed. I wouldn't see your grandmother at all if able for 2 weeks.

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                  • #10
                    Did the worker live on-premise? If so, they might have been following shelter in place.

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                      Lintin I wasn't exposed to the worker. I'm mostly concerned about contact exposure, mostly because of my grandmother. I think my chances are low.. But I'm disappointed in how this is being handled. There certainly is boarders that are at more risk than me that are unaware of the situation.

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                      • #12
                        Barn needs to CLOSE, NOW!

                        BO needs to inform every person who set foot in there that someone from the barn has been hospitalized with respiratory illness. Every person who has been at the barn should self quarantine for 14 days.

                        If the BO knew that this person was ill and allowed her to continue to come to work, I'd question her ethics. So many things at the barn are touched by so many people daily. Door knobs, hoses, faucets, tack, stall gates and latches, lead ropes and halters etc.

                        I'm in NY and my barn closed on Sunday. I'm at a full service barn and BO (lives on site) and spouse and skeleton crew kept on can manage turnout, mucking, feeding etc. Meds are taken care of. BO has been using Clorox solution to clean gates and latches and doorknobs etc for a couple of weeks. We all miss riding and miss our horses but none of wants to get COVID and noe of us would want to spread it if we were asymptomatic.
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                          Chall my understanding was that she was moving in but still sleeping elsewhere at the moment.

                          Today get the shelter in place possiblity. But the barn owners knew she was sick and should have notified the boarders or closed. And she was in the middle of feeding when the ambulance was called. She couldn't breath.

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                            #14
                            Linny I totally agree. Apparently the barn employee hasn't been admitted because she's not critical yet. I'm not sure where she is right now. I think trying a different hospital.

                            I reached out for an update. Still the only boarder that knows I think.

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                            • #15
                              Holy shit, how scary.

                              Contact your doc to discuss testing. You may not qualify without symptoms, but it's worth finding out. Can you take your temp a couple times a day?

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                              • #16
                                I dont know the regulations or guidelines in your area, but since the barn worker went to a hospital I am sure they will be required to report it to the health department.

                                If the barn worker is positive wont the barn be required to test all the workers and the BO anyway?

                                The OP may be told to self quarantine for 14 days just to make sure.

                                From what I've seen, officials dont want people to get tested unless they are showing symptoms but if you've been in area where there is a confirmed case they may want to test you anyway.

                                I must say I find the BO to be a little remiss if not reckless to allow lessons to go on given how contagious this virus is.


                                She's spraying everything down. Yeah okay. So? No one knows how long this barn worker was infected before she started showing symptoms . No one knows what she touched , shovels , muck buckets , rakes, lead ropes, stall latches, door knobs, light switches, feed buckets, feed bin lids, gates, gate latches, blankets, probably a few more that I over looked.

                                I dont scare easily but this BOs attitude is a cause for concern.
                                And it wont be for 14 days. If this barn worker is positive and other people get sick or test positive it's going to be another 14 days for each and people may not conviently get sick all in the same day.

                                Does this BO have a contingency plan in case all her workers or she herself gets too sick to work?

                                I not trying to scare you or cause you unnecessary anxiety but I'd be giving that BO what for right now.

                                Not because her barn worker got sick, but because she kept on giving lessons when she is in an area where there are a lot of cases.

                                And another concern, if the barn is shown to have a confirmed case, are vets and farriers still allowed to enter and would they come?.

                                Vets and vet techs may be less concerned about infection since they already should be observing bio security protocols but a farrier may or may not be aware, and I wouldn't expect a farrier to try and shoe horses with gloves on.

                                Sure, they can wash their hands after. But I wouldn't count on that being enough.

                                it's just my opinion but I wonder if a structure like a barn could be sanitized sufficiently. I wouldnt take the chance . That's just me.

                                Please stay safe and let us know how it goes and I hope that barn worker recovers quickly and that it isn't Covid19.
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                                • #17
                                  Barn should be closed NOW, should have been closed the minute they felt the need to call an ambulance. I mean, frankly, the employee should never have been at the barn in the first place if they've been "sick" since Saturday.

                                  ANY person that has stepped foot on that farm in the past week should self-quarantine for 14 days. No exceptions.

                                  If your BO is refusing to tell other boarders, I'd be telling them myself.

                                  So sick of people not taking this seriously.
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                                  • #18
                                    If this person is positive and further cases develop in clients or staff the 14 days just keeps extending. It's 14 days from the last known infection.
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                                      #19
                                      You all are right! I don't know if she's been tested or not yet. Testing is still not being done at a great rate here, I worry it might take awhile to know whether she has it. I still think the barn should shut down right now and tell everyone.

                                      As a business, I would think they could face some sort of consequences for keeping things open and not alerting everyone. Besides everyone getting sick...

                                      And I'm not sure about any plans if anyone gets sick. I think they would ask for volunteers to step up and help care.

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                                      • #20
                                        If they end up with a case, and don't close, I would call your dept of ag. That's insane.

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