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Another Update Page 5 - Disturbing Situation - Wheels in Motion

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  • #61
    Originally posted by JustTheTicket View Post

    I’m not sure that’s the best example, because I’m pretty sure they used some CGI on that horse.
    and I'm pretty sure that horse was not abused such as this. Movie horses are not only valuable, there are animal welfare folks on site. Just because a horse performs does not mean he was abused.

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    • #62
      Good for you for getting your horse out of there. Thank you for exposing this!

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      • #63
        This is abuse. Full stop.
        "It's like a Russian nesting doll of train wrecks."--CaitlinandTheBay

        ...just settin' on the Group W bench.

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        • #64
          I will be contacting the local police and animal control office tomorrow. I've been in contact with the boarder who took the pics to add to the file and to add credence.

          I'm not going to go out of sight out of mind here. This is serious animal abuse and like someone else said needs to be exposed and stopped.
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          • #65
            Originally posted by 16 Hands View Post
            I will be contacting the local police and animal control office tomorrow. I've been in contact with the boarder who took the pics to add to the file and to add credence.

            I'm not going to go out of sight out of mind here. This is serious animal abuse and like someone else said needs to be exposed and stopped.
            .
            My guess is that your local LEA and AC will not do anything. I hope I am wrong. After making reports to both of them I'd anonymously send any photos or videos to your local media. Media coverage is typically how issues are resolved because authorities are held accountable by the general public.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by findeight View Post
              As an aside, not everybody in the Charro community uses these techniques any more either and it certainly isn’t restricted to that group. QHs, Open Hunters, you name it, it’s been tried there...not with the spade bit, tied up by a halter over the bridle while the reins from the bit are hooked to a surcingle or wrapped around the horn. That’s not the way a spade is used anyway, it’s a very, very, very ultra light touch on a finished bridle horse. If you leave any horse in any bit bitted up for long periods, they just learn to ignore the bit . Even a spade. It doesn't work and defeats the purpose. Stoooopid. Get out of that barn. Sounds like a bunch of yahoos who want it right now and skip all the steps of doing it the right way.
              Thank you for mentioning this - my husband is from Mexico and is gets very defensive on this topic. There's shite horsemanship in every discipline and the Charro world is no exception. The guys who still practice methods like what the OP is describing are the machismo types who work in the old ways of submission-based training.

              There are some very beautifully-trained Charro horses. The Mexican "dancing horses" are not amongst that group.

              Do not spoil what you have by desiring what you have not. Remember that what you have now was once among the many things that you only hoped for.

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              • #67
                I have untied horses left this way (though none of them ever had a bridle on). There was a terrible reining trainer who did this constantly at a facility I used to board at. Barn management ignored it because a quarter of the facility were either his personal horses or his client horses.

                He'd also tie their heads to their tails and make them spin around the arena in a state of panic. Just sickening.

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                • #68
                  Google the laws and copy and take with you to the Sheriff's Dept - THEY WILL TAKE ACTION! I've done this countless times. Especially with photo evidence. The Humane Society deals with pets. Check Equine Rescues in the area. You need to get to someone who deals with animal abuse. This is putting this horse in such a strain without water or access to hay or food for an inordinate time. YES! Media is great in this as well and tell the Sheriff you will use them. They can't pick and choose which laws to enforce. We've had cases in rural Alabama that got attention and offenders went to court/jail/fined/horses removed. PLEASE UPDATE!!! I get a case of rabies about this kind of abuse! These offenders should be outed including the BO and get the punishment. Thank you!!! I'll help in any way you need.

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                  • #69
                    Thank you 16Hands, for caring and doing something about that horrific situation. Some horses really get a tough lot in life. Poor thing. Hanging horses and tieing them around should be classified and prosecuted as animal abuse.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by TKR View Post
                      Google the laws and copy and take with you to the Sheriff's Dept - THEY WILL TAKE ACTION! I've done this countless times. Especially with photo evidence. The Humane Society deals with pets. Check Equine Rescues in the area. You need to get to someone who deals with animal abuse. This is putting this horse in such a strain without water or access to hay or food for an inordinate time. YES! Media is great in this as well and tell the Sheriff you will use them. They can't pick and choose which laws to enforce. We've had cases in rural Alabama that got attention and offenders went to court/jail/fined/horses removed. PLEASE UPDATE!!! I get a case of rabies about this kind of abuse! These offenders should be outed including the BO and get the punishment. Thank you!!! I'll help in any way you need.
                      I concur. Public shaming is another good option. Contact local news stations and papers. Send the pictures. Send names. Shine the light on these cockroaches.

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                      • #71
                        If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. Good on you for following through.
                        No matter where you go, there you are

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                        • #72
                          ***UPDATE PLEASE***!!! I'm surprised this poor horse hasn't colicked or even foundered from this stress. He will probably permanently damaged either physically or emotionally or both. Something needs to free him from this IMMEDIATELY! PLEASE LET US KNOW!!!! I will help -- just give me some information!

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                          • #73
                            What is up with the rabidity here?

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                            • #74
                              I filed a report with the Sheriff's office and waiting for them to contact me. They're pretty responsive as I've filed complaints in the past as well. If I don't hear back in a day or so, I'll pay a visit in person.

                              Xanthoria - I've already moved my horse out of there.

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                              • #75
                                I've found if you get a name of the person in law enforcement that is working the case and call until you get some action it will help. The poor horse needs some relief ASAP!

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                                • #76
                                  I've got a case number from the sheriff's department and a witness statement to fill out and return. I may go to the barn early in the morning and take pictures of what I see. I have every right to be there as my board is paid through the end of the month. Once the pics are filed with the complaint and become public record, I'll alert the media. Does that sound like a good plan?

                                  TKR - I have the name of the Animal Services Coordinator and phone number.

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                                  • #77
                                    Sounds like a plan! Please be careful.

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                                    • #78
                                      Originally posted by 16 Hands View Post
                                      I've got a case number from the sheriff's department and a witness statement to fill out and return. I may go to the barn early in the morning and take pictures of what I see. I have every right to be there as my board is paid through the end of the month. Once the pics are filed with the complaint and become public record, I'll alert the media. Does that sound like a good plan?

                                      TKR - I have the name of the Animal Services Coordinator and phone number.
                                      You moved your horse already, but are going back to the barn? With all due respect, as a BO, I would have you removed IMMEDIATELY if I saw you. If you have no vested interest in what's on the property anymore, you being there is really out of line.

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                                      • #79
                                        Originally posted by endlessclimb View Post

                                        You moved your horse already, but are going back to the barn? With all due respect, as a BO, I would have you removed IMMEDIATELY if I saw you. If you have no vested interest in what's on the property anymore, you being there is really out of line.
                                        Well her board is paid, and who’s to say that she didn’t forget something… People do it all the time. I forgot a couple things in the tack room when I moved Barns and had to go back.

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                                        • #80
                                          I doubt anyone will question her being there. She can always say she's checking for items left behind. 16 Hands - this REALLY needs to be addressed ASAP. Get the photos and give them to the Animal Investigator quickly. That poor horse is suffering. PM the information - facility, location, where the stall is, how long this has gone on and the Phone #/report #. I will be happy to push this forward. I don't worry about rules or what someone *might* think when an animal's safety or comfort is involved. Their needs come before social amenities. Thank you!!!!!

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