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  • Originally posted by Mango20 View Post

    I had to have some words on this issue with a tween who was getting to ride and show my awesome pony for FREE. She was calling him butthole, and other unsavory names. I reminded her that if she felt so poorly of him, she could just stop riding him.
    My first trainer called her very beautiful but sometimes very naughty gelding "Alpo" when he acted out during his first week home and it kind of stuck. He was very talented but opinionated.

    I'm gonna go with people just leaving all their crap in the aisle when they tack up. I've seen blankets, halters, lead ropes, jackets, sneakers, grooming totes, and everything else just laying there on the ground where the cross ties are. I didn't do that when I was a junior. Grooming tote goes back in the tack room, lead rope, jackets, blankets etc, hung on the stall or in the tack room. Halter, if it wasn't a good time to turn and go back to past the stall to hang it would at the very least get hung on a closer stall until I came back to the cross ties after riding. I can't fathom people that just drop all their things where they are.

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      Originally posted by Jenerationx View Post

      My first trainer called her very beautiful but sometimes very naughty gelding "Alpo" when he acted out during his first week home and it kind of stuck. He was very talented but opinionated.

      I'm gonna go with people just leaving all their crap in the aisle when they tack up. I've seen blankets, halters, lead ropes, jackets, sneakers, grooming totes, and everything else just laying there on the ground where the cross ties are. I didn't do that when I was a junior. Grooming tote goes back in the tack room, lead rope, jackets, blankets etc, hung on the stall or in the tack room. Halter, if it wasn't a good time to turn and go back to past the stall to hang it would at the very least get hung on a closer stall until I came back to the cross ties after riding. I can't fathom people that just drop all their things where they are.
      I have never seen that before.

      If it was my barn, I would put all that left there in a (clean) basket.
      Then put it in the stall of the horse that was groomed there.
      See what that owner does when it comes back to a clean aisle.

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      • Originally posted by Bluey View Post

        I have never seen that before.

        If it was my barn, I would put all that left there in a (clean) basket.
        Then put it in the stall of the horse that was groomed there.
        See what that owner does when it comes back to a clean aisle.
        People do it. Really annoying. I've gone to put a horse in cross ties, and there's a halter still attached to one of the cross ties too. How lazy can people get? I have hung a halter or lead rope on another horse's stall hook when a farrier was working between where I was cross tied and the correct horse's stall was, but never ever left anything on the ground when I'm leaving the barn aisle. I don't know how anyone, and in this case it's multiple people, think that's acceptable.

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        • Oh Another i just talked about with my dad.

          People do not understand the difference between a casual trail ride and back country trips. People who do not understand that our horses are in very fit shape and that it is not safe for a minimally rode animal to go on these trips right out of the gate.

          We had a huge flood of this issue after Unbranded came out, thankfully it slowed down the past year or so.

          We would get a lot of riders contacting us (my familys pack buisness) wanting to go on a trip with us, wants to help us, wants a job yada yada.

          Normally we could discourage most (85%), explaining that Dobbin was not ready for these kinds of rides. That being ridden a few miles on flat ground twice a week was not the same as what we normally do.

          Those that acted like they knew more than we did having watched a simple documentary, well we let them come out. Since we dont have 40 some years of experience between three generations to draw from.

          We do normally our shortest pack trip, 25 miles in of well-groomed trails with a decent amount of hill work but nothing extreme like some of our longer trips have. One night then head home next day.

          a few have had their horses actually do great, these were ones that had actually prepared and wanted to learn more. these people were awesome and normally did get signed on to help for that season.

          However most the others (11) had horses so spent by the time we reached camp they had to ride back on a pack mule so their horse could take it easy. Or some horses had never high lined or hobbled so their owner didnt get a lick of sleep. One horse came up lame half way so we had to take him back, another ended up spending two nights at camp he was so out of shape and exhausted.

          I have told my dad we should just refuse them entirely, but some times the lesson has to be learned and they dont take no for an answer (his words) By the time we get back to base, most of these riders apologize for their behavior. They also thank us for teaching them about what we do and how it is not all that easy as the documentaries show. A few have come out and used our own horses to enjoy some pack trips while taking the time to prep their own mount.

          Thankfully we didnt have any like that this past season, but the occasional call comes up but is openminded enough to let us explain why Dobbin may not be ready for that kind of riding.

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          • 1) People that ride in the pasture with loose horses.

            2) People that leave wheelbarrows, muck carts, rakes, and forks and what not in the horse’s paddock.

            3) Not really a handling thing, but I can’t stand it when people overblanket their horse to death and then complain that their horse is “really hard on blankets”. He’s not wrecking is blanket for fun, he’s wrecking it because you keep putting your heaviest blanket on your wooly mustang every time there’s the tiniest snow flake within 50 miles. Listen to your damn horse.

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            • Poorly fitting helmets are my #1! There is a girl I see at events EVERY year whose helmet makes me clench my jaw—it tilts way back over her head, leaving tons of exposed forehead. No, it’s not the style of the helmet...just the way it’s fitted (or not). Either her chin strap is way too loose, the helmet’s the wrong size, or it’s the wrong shape for her head, but in any case it is sending my blood pressure spiking just thinking about it now

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              • Originally posted by tabula rashah View Post
                Looping a lead or lunge line around a hand. Not wearing helmets. Sandals or flip flops. Over horses little kids. Anthropomorphizing. People who want their horse to preform an action (like loading or standing for clipping, etc) and have never spent the time to train it
                Little to say about your post but I LOVE your tagline!
                Proud member of the Colbert Dressage Nation

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                • Here's chapter 3. I knew it was out there, just not what and when.

                  The trainer everyone loves is very good friends with several people at the barn. She was there on Monday working with one boarder who is a very good rider and pretty good at training. Best with her dog who was born on the farm. She has 4 horses, one a young mare she started. We came in after they had started and she was doing some mounted work.

                  I've noticed that when we ride at the same time it can be difficult figuring out what she is doing and keeping track of where she is and where she is going. We were trotting down the long side and I see her headed straight for us. My horse was scared and on the edge of taking off. I was too. She managed to turn away by hauling on the left rein. She was about a horse length away! The trainer got on her case. She doesn't start to turn when she should, way late. I think she does everything with her body straight, never looks where she is going. It happened again on the other side where there is more room. I sure hope they do some more work together.

                  The more I read what people have said here, and the thread I started about my handsome horse, it strikes me that some people put a lot of intensity into training their horse. There are some of us who are quieter and the horse has more room for their personality to develop and come out where we can see it. That's when you can see their foibles. One thing that John Lyons(Conditioned Response Training) talks about is repetitions. If the horse needs 1,000 reps to learn something, you could do them all at once, or in groups, maybe 200 for 5 days. And then there is 1 for 1,000 days. Maybe not quite that literal, but I have a horse who lowers his head when I groom if I put my hand on the noseband. He knows how to line up straight with the mounting ramp. Sometimes I have to cue with the outside rein, sometimes he does it on his own. Takes a sideways step with the hind leg and his butt is right where he should be. Same with learning to stand outside a stall while I clean it up to grain him. I never thought about training them, they just worked it out themselves with my consistency.

                  I think it's a lot more fun and probably gets a better horse in the long run when you take the pressure off.
                  "With hardly any other living being can a human connect as closely over so many years as a rider can with her horse." Isabell Werth, Four Legs Move My Soul. 2019

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                  • Originally posted by J-Lu View Post

                    Little to say about your post but I LOVE your tagline!
                    lol It's one of my favorite movies
                    Wouldst thou like the taste of butter ? A pretty dress? Wouldst thou like to live deliciously?

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                    • Letting a horse rub it's head against you. I am not a tree or some other inanimate object and you don't get to treat me like one. I have a friend who saw a woman who always let her horse do this to her get dragged by said horse. The horse was ridden in a full cheek and the bit got caught on a belt loop. The dragging didn't stop until her pants finally ripped.

                      People who don't know how to lounge properly.

                      People who let their horses walk all over them, have gotten repeatedly hurt by their spoiled horses and then look at you like you're Satan when you correct your horse for bad ground behavior with an appropriate physical correction.

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                      • People that watch their horse's neck their entire ride. You know they are not looking out for others in the arena, and you have no clue where they are going next because their head is down and their eyes are glued to their horse's neck, so it is next to impossible to stay out of their way. I don't know if they think their horse's head is going to fall off if they take their eyes off it, or if perhaps, somehow, they think they can magically will it to go where they want it to by staring down at it, but, man, trying to share an arena with these people is like playing mounted dodgeball!

                        Also, people who do not leave adequate space when passing you in the arena....the ones who constantly pop you in the leg with their whip or knock their stirrup iron against yours because they seem to lack any depth perception or the ability to estimate distance. My mare is especially possessive of her personal space, and nothing gets her more irritable than other horses getting into her bubble while we are trying to work.
                        Proud Member of the "Tidy Rabbit Tinfoil Hat Wearers" clique and the "I'm in my 30's and Hope to be a Good Rider Someday" clique

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