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  • #61
    Originally posted by sketcher View Post
    So you have a problem with the people who don't want the wildlife on their property but you think it is selfish to feel relieved that the rampant and uncontrolled building which put those homes there in the first place slows down due to the economy? Tying that sentiment to making it seem someone is grateful people are unemployed is a bit of a stretch.

    I'm glad the ridiculous building has stopped as well. Maybe people can learn to be happy with buying a house which already exists rather than to continually have something new.
    Sketcher,
    These were two different replies regarding two different issues. Building a house and eradicating all the wildlife that trespasses through a property are two seperate problems.

    I'm not for big subdivisions either, but unless everyone here is living in a tent, it is quite hypocritical.

    They can build their homes, but another can't...
    MnToBe Twinkle Star: "Twinkie"
    http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...wo/009_17A.jpg

    Proud member of the "Don't rush to kill wildlife" clique!

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    • #62
      No one is saying no one can have a new house.

      Most are merely asking that people build sensibly.

      The developments I've seen around here are largely anything but sensible. McMansions 40 miles from a city with what becomes a 2 hour commute, well away from the amenities demanded by their inhabitants. They require a car-dependent existance, a 20 minute ride to the grocery store, and have utterly wreaked havoc on the traffic in the area - one day it took me, I am not kidding, two hours and 45 minutes to make my seven mile commute home because one road was shut down. "Average" for my commute is around 40 minutes. Seven. Miles. 5 miles of that is a 40 mph zone. Two miles of it is city. It's gotten substantially worse over the last several years as development pushes further out.

      How, pray tell, does this make sense? In my area, like in Baltimore, many, many close in suburbs are substandard, and the city has areas that are rather dilapidated, to say the least. Many of these areas need renewal, not commuters from miles away. Yet, folks want NEW.

      I can't imagine telling people to never build a home. I do think it's responsible for folks to bare in mind the impact of what their actions and the long term consequences.
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      They're small hearts.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Huntertwo View Post
        Sketcher,
        These were two different replies regarding two different issues.
        That was my point. You want to say it's selfish to be thankful for the slow down but you want to complain about the very people that those builders bring in.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by sptraining View Post
          The boarding barn I rode at in high school started out in the middle of nowhere half a century or so ago. During the four years I was there, a school was built on the west side right next to the barn, houses on the south side (with neighbors complaining about the smell), and a housing development starting on the east side. The barn used to be surrounded by date groves btw...We used to ride through the desert on our version of trail rides but that stopped when the houses started getting built.
          The barn I grew up riding at was like this. Years and years ago the owner had a ton of land. That was before my time. It's surrounded by subdivisions now. I was used to it, I wasn't there when they had land to trail ride so it's not like anything changed for me. But it's sad when you look at old pictures of the barn. One thing that blew my mind was when people who moved into the houses next door bitched about the smell of horses, or just about the fact that there was a horse farm next door. WTF, why did you move there then? The barn was there first!

          It got interesting, and not in a good way, when the town built a parking lot and bike path behind the paddocks. Like right on the other side of the fence. Nothing like going to get your horse out of the paddock and finding a toddler playing in there. I went ballistic.

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          • #65
            "Those who live in glass houses...."

            'K, so how many of you live in a properly packed urban area so that you aren't contributing to the problem?

            Right now I can say that I do. And it screws up my horse life. The drive out to my horse is too long. Yet it can be done in the small, old Northeast city and state were I live now. If I wanted to do the same thing in New York, Chicago, LA or San Francisco, it wouldn't work. If I were trying to keep this horse in training or showing, it wouldn't work.

            I confess that as someone who boards a horse, I'll always be "part of the problem." Either I'll buy a piece of the sprawl or pollute the environment driving (too long and in traffic) to get out to the barn.

            I apologize.
            The armchair saddler
            Politically Pro-Cat

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Huntertwo View Post
              Rather a selfish statement considering many Construction workers and any trade workers involved in the building business are barely scraping by in today's economy. IF they are still employed at all.
              I understand what you are saying, my husband has lost work because of the bad economy too. I can't help but think it is still a good thing. For instance I don't feel bad at all if Japanese whalers lose their jobs, or lumberman who cut virgin forests, or how about deep sea oil drillers - should we let them continue to drill so they can have a job? It is a fact that there are many empty houses around here and yet they continue to build more. And in PA the laws are so pro-development that even when a township wants to say no they can't. They are immediately sued if they don't allow variance after variance. This is why most of the townships have open space funds (as well as county, state and private conservations) they only way to save land is to buy it up. Which as I said is cheaper in the long run.
              Here look at this environmentally offensive, ugly thing behind me.
              http://www.richmarkel.com/remaxparea...9138&mlsid=316

              The neighbors call it The Museum. They have only been there 6 years and they are selling. Probably too stupid to manage their money. These people are the kind that got a puppy for christmas a few years ago and it was gone before spring. I actually never saw it and I'm only 500 feet away. They built this monstrousity and then are gone all summer because they have a house at the shore.

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              • #67
                Hey - YO- it's called r-e-m-o-d-e-l-i-n-g and there ARE JOBS.

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