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  • Suzy q
    started a topic Can dogs get diseases from horses?

    Can dogs get diseases from horses?

    I am looking into getting a slaughter bound foal, weanling, or yearling and was thinking abut doing quarantine in my backyard. I have 2 dogs and 1 cat. The cat is outside 24/7 while the dogs are outside all day. Can any of them catch any sort of disease or illness from the horse. Just making sure. Thanks!

  • Ghazzu
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    Environmental persistence of S. equi is overrated.

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  • hoopoe
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    No because the dogs are potentially seeding parasites and pathogens around your home environment. S equi, which causes strangles can be very persistent in the environment. While you dont have a large space or other horses, you cannot control your home environment adequately with dogs entering and leaving the horses area. Same is true with the cat, though he is probably not jumping in the car and going to visit other farms

    To prevent carrying a pathogen to other environments, either on yourself or via your dogs, car or other item you have to control all aspects of the environment.

    This is a situation of hope for the best but plan for the worse.

    Agree with Bee Honey to enlist the aid of your vet well in advance. Agree too about the danger of dewormers shed in the feces or dropped from the mouth to dogs.

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  • Suzy q
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    Originally posted by hoopoe View Post
    the issue is not so much that dogs can catch anything from the horses, it is that they can spread something to other horses via their paws.

    In a true Q you keep all footwear and coveralls at the sight of the isolation so you do not track pathogens out. A dog cannot follow these rules.
    We obviously don't have horses at our home so if we just bathed the dogs before we brought them anywhere would that work?

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  • BeeHoney
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    A slaughter bound foal, weanling or yearling may likely have been born to an unvaccinated dam and/or is unvaccinated itself. That foal/weanling/yearling is at much greater risk of illness itself than your other horses are at risk from it. Dogs and horses don't share much in the way of parasites and disease, you are fine on that count.

    But, I am compelled to point out that you should NOT keep a foal, weanling, or yearling by itself for any length of time except under circumstances of dire necessity. Isolating a young horse is not only cruel and stressful to the animal, it is a recipe for disaster. I would not purchase a single slaughter bound foal with the idea of raising it by itself. Instead, I would recommend purchasing a second foal or borrowing a calm older pony to go with it.

    A slaughter bound foal (or weanling or yearling) is likely to be in a very stressed state. I would recommend having a quiet, securely fenced area and an equine companion already arranged. Keep in mind that a panicked foal/weanling/yearling can in some instances act with an incredible amount of desperation--going over/through fences, etc, so it is wise to make sure that your temporary quarantine area is securely fenced. I think it would be wise to also have a secure stall prepared--just in case.

    Have your vet alerted to your plan in order that they can assist you quickly: nutrition, vaccinations, deworming, and treatment of stress related ailments such as ulcers or diarrhea.

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  • hoopoe
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    the issue is not so much that dogs can catch anything from the horses, it is that they can spread something to other horses via their paws.

    In a true Q you keep all footwear and coveralls at the sight of the isolation so you do not track pathogens out. A dog cannot follow these rules.

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  • Ghazzu
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    Originally posted by cnigh View Post
    Worms are a definite concern. You don't want the dogs eating manure.

    I wouldn't keep them together myself. Too easy for things to go wrong.
    GI parasites are relatively species-specific.
    Which one(s) are you thinking might be of concern?

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  • Sansena
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    One acre for a single colt should be fine. I'm guessing he'll be weaned by the time he's to you? Matter of fact, I'd be a little worried that if he does get to running full blast on an acre, he may hurt himself. A foal on an acre for a month is much less of an issue than a horse living on 1 acre full time, forever.

    And he's getting hay, so...

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  • Suzy q
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    Originally posted by Marla 100 View Post
    How big is your backyard?
    I have about an acre availible to quarantine the baby
    on. The rest is filled up with stuff like basketball court, trampoline, tree house, shed, and the list goes on. I know that this isn't a ton of space but am just going to have it there for a month. I talked to some people on facebook and on here about it and they said that it should be fine. I'll get the tests done, make sure it's not ill and then It would slowly get incorporated into the herd. Do you think this is enough space?

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  • Sansena
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    Agree on the other communicable... but I have to offer a word of caution:

    An orphaned foal will soon be a nightmare if you don't get him out with other horses soon after quarantine to learn how to respect others' space and accept discipline. There is nothing worse to handle in the world than an orphaned foal, hand raised, with no other equids to teach it manners.

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  • Marla 100
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    I can't think of anything else other than mentioned above, BUT if you plan to do this, I hope your backyard is big enough
    and safe enough. Young horses have a way of hurting themselves if their confined area is not set up for horses.
    How big is your backyard?

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  • Suzy q
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    Thank you guys! My dog eats manure when we bring him to the barn and we aren't looking so that isn't my biggest concern. What if I put up one of those wire fences that are mesh all the way down where the dogs couldn't get in? Would that work?

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  • Beck
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    Dogs do not get worms from horses. Eating manure is only a concern if you have used certain medications that the horses may pass in their manure: ivermectin wormer for example can be a risk for some breeds of dog.

    Rabies, giardia, ringworm, salmonella, and several bacterial infections can be of concern.

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  • 4horses
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    I would think anything transmitted from horses to dogs would also be transmitted from horses to humans. MRSA for example.

    https://iacuc.wsu.edu/zoonoses-associated-with-horses/

    That said I wouldn't be real concerned. My dogs eat a lot of manure and have been fine. If the new horse has diarrhea, i might consider keeping the dogs away.

    Strangles is contagious to humans but that is rare.

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  • cnigh
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    Worms are a definite concern. You don't want the dogs eating manure.

    I wouldn't keep them together myself. Too easy for things to go wrong.

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