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  • #21
    Here is what the OP was on that thread on the other forum...put on your foil hats before reading!

    The attached draft of the NAIS Business Plan is provided by the American Horse
    Council [AHC] and provides insight into the recommended involvement of horses in an
    involuntary identification program. In summary, Equine groups that require an EIA or
    a certificate of veterinary inspection [CVI] are categorized in the medium priority
    along with swine, poultry and goats . Equine that are transported across state lines
    or that co-mingle at any public activity are required to have a negative EIA test
    within 12 months . Horses that are not shipped across state lines or do not
    participate in public events are not required to have a negative EIA test and as
    such are included in the low priority category and NOT the medium category .

    Happy reading . Bob [Mowrey]



    MEMORANDUM



    To: AHC Member Organizations


    From: American Horse Council



    Date: December 21, 2007


    Re: USDA Releases Draft NAIS Business Plan


    The United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) has released a new business plan
    for the National Animal Identification System (NAIS) titled A Business Plan to
    Advance Animal Disease Traceability.



    The NAIS is a voluntary program intended to standardize the identification of
    premises and livestock, and to record certain livestock movements for the purpose of
    disease management and control. The programs goal is to protect the health of U.S.
    livestock, as well as our ability to move and market animals, through a
    State-Federal-Industry partnership.



    This new draft USDA business plan details their recommended strategies and plans to
    facilitate progress towards achieving optimal disease tracing capabilities. It was
    developed to explain how USDA plans to continue the development and implementation
    of a voluntary ID system. It focuses on harmonizing existing animal health programs
    (both state and Federal regulated and voluntary programs), industry health and
    marketing programs, and various animal identification techniques. It gives a
    comprehensive overview of the country?€?s current traceability status and discusses
    seven major strategies that USDA will be focusing on to enhance the current level of
    traceability.



    Strategy 1 Prioritize Species



    The first strategy within the NAIS draft business plan is to prioritize species and
    sector participation. The prioritization is broken down into three categories of
    high, medium and low with additional subcategories within each. The category of
    high consists of cattle. The medium category includes swine, poultry, goats and
    certain equine sectors. The low category includes sheep and aquatics.



    The equine industry is broken down into two categories for the prioritization
    levels. The sector that is within the medium category of tier one are horses that
    require a CVI or EIA test. Horses that do not require a CVI or EIA test are in the
    low priority section.



    This prioritization follows the recommendation which the Equine Species Working
    Group (ESWG) made to USDA in August 2006, which proposed that horses which move to a
    premises where a Certificate of Veterinary Inspection (CVI), Brand Inspection,
    VS-127 permit or International CVI are required should be identified. The records
    maintained through the currently existing and utilized movement permits capture the
    high risk movements of horses that pose the largest threat of spreading disease in
    the horse industry.



    Strategy 2 - Harmonize Animal ID Systems



    This second strategy focuses on harmonizing both State/Federal government regulated
    and industry animal identification programs by creating common and compatible
    processes and data standards. This will allow all systems to communicate with each
    other when certain information is needed during a disease outbreak. Standardizing
    some of the key items within these programs will save time, money and effort by
    working with systems already in place while allowing each of the entities to
    continue using animal identification for multiple purposes as needed.



    Strategy 3 - Converge Animal ID Standards with Disease Programs



    The third strategy of the business plan addresses standardizing certain data
    elements within existing disease programs to ensure compatibility and enhance
    traceability and response capabilities in the event of an emergency. One example
    would be the use of the premises identification number (PIN) with official disease
    programs, import and export, and certificates of veterinary inspection (CVI).



    Strategy 4 - Integrate automated technologies



    Within strategy four, plans to integrate NAIS-complaint identification devices and
    automated data capture with animal disease programs are detailed. The switch to
    automated data capture will increase the volume and quality of data, minimize errors
    and will speed the entry of data into the databases, all allowing for quicker access
    to important information during the response to an animal health emergency.
    Electronic CVIs and EIA tests are examples of how USDA plans to utilize automated
    technology within the equine industry.



    Strategy 5 - State Partnerships



    The fifth strategy discusses USDAs efforts and plans to partner with States, Tribes
    and Territories to facilitate the continued development of their individual animal
    disease traceability infrastructures with localized plans which reflect the animal
    health priorities of the particular region.



    Strategy 6 - Collaborate with Industry



    The sixth strategy details the collaborations of USDA with industry organizations
    and animal health officials to facilitate the implementation of certain parts of the
    animal disease traceability programs. Currently USDA has entered into cooperative
    agreements with certain non-profit industry organizations to help promote premises
    registration and continues to work with and build these collaborations.
    Additionally, the plan discusses accredited veterinarians working with USDA to adopt
    NAIS data standards in everyday animal health management and disease programs.



    Strategy 7 - Advance ID Technologies



    The seventh and final detailed strategy within the business plan discusses
    establishing performance standards for identification devices and evaluating
    emerging technologies for use in the NAIS and animal disease programs.



    Available for Comment



    The business plan is available on the USDAs NAIS website www. usda.gov.nais. The
    plan is currently in draft form and is available for public comment. Comments can
    be submitted by sending an email to animalidcomments@ aphis.usda.gov or by writing to
    the National Animal Identification System program staff, USDA, APHIS, VS, 4700 River
    Road, Unit 200, Riverdale, MD 20737. The business plan is a living document with no
    deadline for comments. The plan will be periodically reviewed and updated as
    needed.



    Additional Documents



    USDA has also posted a fact sheet titled The Facts About Traceabilityon the NAIS
    website which gives an overview of the importance and current status of traceability
    and briefly details the draft business plan.



    Additionally USDA released the official version of the NAIS User Guide which
    replaces the November 2006 draft version. The User Guide has been revised
    incorporating some comments that were received. USDA hopes these changes will make
    the guide easier to use and understand. The guide provides producers with the most
    up-to-date information on what the program is, how it works, how it can be put to
    use and why participation would be beneficial.

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    • #22
      Oh... I guess they are pulling our info from our COGGINS?!!!!!

      This makes me see red. And makes me want to stop pulling Coggin's on my horses. I swear, I may just never take one off the property again so I don't have to. It may be time to just get out of this business and ride only for pleasure.
      "Kindness is free" ~ Eurofoal
      ---
      The CoTH CYA - please consult w/your veterinarian under any and all circumstances.

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      • #23
        That's it... I'm moving to Bolivia.
        \"For all those men who say, \"Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free,\" here\'s an update for you: Nowadays 80% of women are against marriage. Why? Because women realize it\'s not worth buying an entire pig just to get a little sausage.\"-

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        • #24
          I am astounded

          I am so very glad that I live all the way down here in Western Australia

          No EI here and I dont even know what coggins is

          Ya all welcome to come down and join me
          The relaxing of the legs and hands of the rider, is the proof of the real collection and the collection is the poetry of the impulsion http://www.youtube.com/user/teachoz

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          • #25
            Originally posted by San Miranda View Post
            I am astounded

            I am so very glad that I live all the way down here in Western Australia

            No EI here and I dont even know what coggins is

            Ya all welcome to come down and join me
            How far behind the US will OZ be? http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/__data/ass...mefact_137.pdf
            \"For all those men who say, \"Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free,\" here\'s an update for you: Nowadays 80% of women are against marriage. Why? Because women realize it\'s not worth buying an entire pig just to get a little sausage.\"-

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            • #26
              This from the Winter 2007-08 issue of The Natural Farmer, published by the Northeast Organic Farming Association:

              USDA Approves Chip Implants That Cause Cancer Tumors

              The USDA has approved the use of two new types of chips for the National Animal Identification System (NAIS) program. These same chips have already been planted in millions of pets and marketed to pet owners as an ID device to help find lost pets. Increasingly, these chips are being marketed and implanted into humans. Evidence has now surfaced that a significant number of studies done in the 1990s revealed that lab animals implanted with the devices developed tumors. When the FDA approved the use of the chips for human implanting, these reports were never made public. A retired toxicologic pathologist who studied the chips for Dow Chemical says "The transponders were the cause of the tumors."

              source: http://www.organicconsumers.org/arti...ticle_7570.cfm
              The aids are the legs, the hands, the weight of the rider, the whip, the caress, the voice and the use of extraneous circumstances. ~ General Decarpentry
              www.reflectionsonriding.com

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              • #27
                Thanks for the link Sakura.

                We have always had to carry out those proceedures with our cattle. I remember as a child on our 7000 acre property putting tail tags on the cattle going to market and Dad filling in the paper work to be carried by the truck driver.

                Nothing new here.

                Completely different to what you guys have to deal with.

                P. S. please dont give our govement the idea we just got rid of a P.M. who just did what the U.S told him to do!
                The relaxing of the legs and hands of the rider, is the proof of the real collection and the collection is the poetry of the impulsion http://www.youtube.com/user/teachoz

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                • #28
                  We just need better lab mice.

                  Our dog club asked our several vets to comment on this and they said that the incidence was so small as to be insignificant.
                  Having the chips and recovering lost dogs was more important than the oddball chance of that kind of cancer.

                  There is much else we may die off first before we need to worry about that.

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                  • #29
                    Here's the entire plan if anyone wants to read it:

                    You gotta be careful and really read this stuff - because often what the AHC is saying is completely at odds with what the USDA is saying.


                    Also, what kinds of movement has to be tracked has yet to be decided.

                    Basically they want everyone to sign up, promising that it will help find your lost horse in a disaster (it won't and can't), or saying that it's not a big deal. Then, after we've all signed up, they'll announce what the rules and regs are going to be.

                    And then - they have all your information and you won't be able to protest one little thing.

                    The type of chip that your vet might suggest you implant your horse with - a chip that has your name and address - is NOT the chip mandated by USDA. You will have to have multiple chips inserted in your horse - at YOUR expense.

                    The information from my state, the AHC, and the USDA is completely different. But somehow, I'm just supposed to trust these agencies?

                    You should see what a clusterfu** our State Vet created with a very minor - and I mean minor - EHV-1 incident last winter. They couldn't even read a darn map to confirm the location of the sick animal.

                    Quite a mess. Now it will be an even bigger mess. Normally I wouldn't mind filling out a census. But now? Especially with that nasty little warning on the front? They can kiss my big butt.

                    But y'all should know that farmers are being arrested and thrown in jail for not complying with NAIS.
                    Brothers and sisters, I bid you beware
                    Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.
                    -Rudyard Kipling

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by EqTrainer View Post
                      Oh... I guess they are pulling our info from our COGGINS?!!!!!

                      This makes me see red. And makes me want to stop pulling Coggin's on my horses. I swear, I may just never take one off the property again so I don't have to. It may be time to just get out of this business and ride only for pleasure.
                      I feel exactly the same but I'd have to shut down my farm business and sell my horse trailer. Cripes I hauled 10,000 miles this year across about 20 states. I spent a fortune in health papers already. This crap just really pisses me off.

                      Bluey, Horses live up to three times longer than dogs so imagine how much longer they will have to develop cancer. Food for thought.

                      I also know someone who lost a horse due to a chip that migrated into it's trachea. They are not without risks. I'd personally rather do a freeze brand than chip my horses for ID.

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                      • #31
                        This is from the third paragraph of the above document

                        "...It gives acomprehensive overview of the country?€?s current traceability status and discussesseven major strategies that USDA will be focusing on to enhance the current level oftraceability."

                        Now I wonder just what in the world this means....country?€?s

                        Are they saying that this plan is to be an acceptable plan for country/countries

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                        • #32
                          Make mine the heavy duty foil please!

                          Here in Massachusetts all stable owners received a letter from the state saying that they were organizing a state database & if we did not notify them of our desire to withdraw our information, then they would automatically add us to the NAIS database. The letter gave us 30 days from the date of the letter to withdraw and took 20 days to get to us... Hmmmm?! One of the things I read about NAIS that I found really disturbing was something about a kill zone. If an animal in any given area comes down with a disease considered to be detrimental to the industry or humans, then the government holds a right to kill ALL animals in a given zone whether they're infected or not, if I remember correctly this zone can be up to 8 miles. This is very scary stuff indeed.
                          Last edited by chism; Jan. 9, 2008, 09:30 AM.
                          "We're still right, they're still wrong" James Carville

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                          • #33
                            The scariest thing is that when I began contacting my representative's and senator's offices they had never HEARD of NAIS! Or said they hadn't. And when I gave their staffers a precis they all but yawned as I spoke.

                            That's the other way to sneak legislation in -- make sure it's so well buried in other bills with names like National Security and Anti-Terrorism that it just slides through unexamined.

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                            • #34
                              Got your foil hats ready?

                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuBo4...eature=related
                              \"For all those men who say, \"Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free,\" here\'s an update for you: Nowadays 80% of women are against marriage. Why? Because women realize it\'s not worth buying an entire pig just to get a little sausage.\"-

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                              • #35
                                Not long ago in a doctor's office I helped an obviously prosperous young woman fill out a form. "I wish I had a chip in my body that just carried all this information," she said fretfully. "Then I wouldn't have to remember it." I asked if that wouldn't make her feel vulnerable. "No," she said. "I don't do anything wrong, so I won't mind the government knowing what I do." But who, I asked her, will decide what is wrong? "Oh, that's too political for me," she said, shrugging and turning away.

                                Yesterday on the Sean Hannity show a caller denigrated a candidate's fiscal policies. The host asked a specific question about those policies. "Oh, I'm not an economist," the caller said. "I don't understand anything about this stuff."

                                As long as people are willing to shrug, deny responsibility and turn away, we cannot help but endow our government with total power. As long as we are willing to make every issue a "liberal-conservative" or "male-female" or "English-Western" or "insert polarization here" issue, we will be putty in the hands of whoever wants to use us. As long as people will just accept NAIS and similar programs without question or responsibility, we are willing accomplices in a future far from the one our ancestors envisioned when they wrote our Constitution.

                                More to the point, our children and grandchildren are doomed to that future. And more to the point of this board, our horses will be at the mercy of whatever power is on the active end of the chips.

                                No NAIS.

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                                • #36
                                  Originally posted by MySparrow View Post
                                  Not long ago in a doctor's office I helped an obviously prosperous young woman fill out a form. "I wish I had a chip in my body that just carried all this information," she said fretfully. "Then I wouldn't have to remember it." I asked if that wouldn't make her feel vulnerable. "No," she said. "I don't do anything wrong, so I won't mind the government knowing what I do." But who, I asked her, will decide what is wrong? "Oh, that's too political for me," she said, shrugging and turning away.

                                  Yesterday on the Sean Hannity show a caller denigrated a candidate's fiscal policies. The host asked a specific question about those policies. "Oh, I'm not an economist," the caller said. "I don't understand anything about this stuff."

                                  As long as people are willing to shrug, deny responsibility and turn away, we cannot help but endow our government with total power. As long as we are willing to make every issue a "liberal-conservative" or "male-female" or "English-Western" or "insert polarization here" issue, we will be putty in the hands of whoever wants to use us. As long as people will just accept NAIS and similar programs without question or responsibility, we are willing accomplices in a future far from the one our ancestors envisioned when they wrote our Constitution.

                                  More to the point, our children and grandchildren are doomed to that future. And more to the point of this board, our horses will be at the mercy of whatever power is on the active end of the chips.

                                  No NAIS.
                                  Exactly.
                                  That is what happened with the ban horse slaughter bill as presented and passed, piecemeal, towards that goal.
                                  A few deciding and bulldozing thru for all what they think is right, even when they were clearly wrong in that instance, as we are seeing.

                                  We don't need NAIS, we already have laws in the books to kill any animals near a site infected with a serious disease, plus I hope the common sense to use them properly to keep the rest safe.

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                                  • #37
                                    Website

                                    Here is the homepage of NAIS through USDA...


                                    http://animalid.aphis.usda.gov/nais/about/index.shtml

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                                    • #38
                                      I tried to post the plan - but the file is too big. IT's the 2007 discussion draft - if anyone wants it just email me with your email address. I'm sure it's available on that site as well - it may or may not be the same version.

                                      (it changes a lot)
                                      Brothers and sisters, I bid you beware
                                      Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.
                                      -Rudyard Kipling

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                                      • #39
                                        Originally posted by drmgncolor View Post
                                        you know... my vet did mention to me the last time she came out that I should microchip my mare just in case she is ever stolen. She said it could be registered just the same as my dog's chip. nothing was said about this being mandatory and nothing was said about the microchip being used as a tracking device. what do these chips have gps technology?? <insert roll eyes> otherwise how exactly is a program like this going to work in reality?

                                        I think government money could best be spent elsewhere... like say on the pathetic healthcase system in the US...
                                        Your vet was probably just giving you good advice not related to NAIS. There have been services available for some time now that will help in the recovery of your pet if they are lost or stolen.

                                        I use one and have signed up my younger animals including my filly. If she is ever lost or stolen anyone finding her can scan her chip and contact the service and they will contact me or if I have had to evacuate or can't be reached they will contact an out of area person of my choice. They use Avid chips ( http://www.avidmicrochip.com/ ) and the service is called Pettrac/Horsetrac. http://avidequineid.com/

                                        The USDA originally said they would allow for different methods of tagging. Then they declared a single chip to be the standard, it was the Digital Angel chip http://www.morerfid.com/details.php?...report_id=3473

                                        This means folks like me and every horse owner in the state of LA will have to have two chips in their horse! The one used to recover our horses if lost or stolen and the government chip used to control our movement!

                                        For giggles google Digital Angel chips, lots of interesting reading. This company markets a chip for human use. How convenient for the government to pick a chip company that can produce a chip for use in animals and humans and then push for NAIS and the real ID!
                                        http://www.morerfid.com/details.php?...8&display=RFID

                                        Just to clarify Digital Angel and Verichip are subsidiary's of Applied Digital Solutions and I had to add this article which gives you a real good idea of what we are dealing with.

                                        http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=27917
                                        Last edited by MSP; Jan. 9, 2008, 10:54 AM. Reason: Add one more link!
                                        No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston Churchill

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                                        • #40
                                          Please note that they are targeting small farmers as the hay allotment is 4 large bales or 20 bales.

                                          http://www.ncagr.com/HayAlert/EmergencyHay.htm



                                          Hay buyers must have an N.C. Farm ID Premises Identification Number. If you do not have one, download the registration form (PDF file), fill it out and bring it with you to a distribution site. This will start the Farm ID registration process and qualify you to purchase hay.


                                          The farm id is a PREMISES ID for the National Animal Identification System .
                                          http://www.ncagr.com/ncfarmid/NCFarm...rationForm.pdf

                                          Another tactic for your Voluntary signature!
                                          Gisela Swift
                                          http://www.naisinfocentral.net

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