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Can We Please Stop This Trend?

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  • Can We Please Stop This Trend?

    I already exploded today , so this is just the smoke clearing.

    Can we please stop the buyer trend of showing up more than an hour ahead of a scheduled viewing time for a horse for sale? As in an hour max early?

    Met me tell you about my day.

    Long story short, I have a nice middle aged ranch gelding for sale. The kind of horse safe for kiddos to learn to rope and ranch on. The kinds of horses we all want to own.

    I have only had him for sale about a week. i had a lady contact me Friday asking if she could come out and have a look at him with her daughter, basically what day worked for me.

    Told her that the weather on Tuesday (tomorrow) looked great for her to come out. Any time worked so she decided around 1 when it would be warmest for everyone. Sounds perfect gave her the adress of my place thinking perfect! Just gotta take an hour or two off from work for them to come out, then I can go right back!

    Welp. TIll this buyer decided she needed to show up A FULL FREAKING DAY EARLY.

    I was at at lunch when I got a phone call from her. Saying she loves him and would like to come back saturday and get him.

    I am confused, asked her what the hell she meant by she loved him and wanted him? I thought she had mistaken me for possibly another seller she was talking to.

    Nope.

    I got pictures of her daughter ridung said gelding in my yard with my tack. Not even close to the right bridle.

    i blew a freaking. Fuse. I had to walk out of lunch to sit in my work truck while all my coworkers wondered what had made me go red.

    This lady had been told by all her horse friends to show up a FULL DAY ahead of her scheduled view time to make sure I was not drugging the gelding or anything.

    So she showed up to my house, while I was NOT HOME PEOPLE. Instead of realizing she could not view the horse when she wanted she took it upon herself to go grab the horse from my pasture, open up my tack room and ride the horse around in my yard and driveway.

    I have Two bay horses in that pasture, one is the gelding for sale the other is his half brother that is my father's stud horse
    now that stud issa sweet heart but if you get on you better be ready to ride.

    If they had grabbed him instead and tossed an 8 year old on.. god I cant even begin to imagine.

    Then of course for me, the part that scared me most. I have two Akbash LGDs. 5 years old have been with my horse herds their entire life. Both are incredibly protective of the horses and will growl snap at strangers that enter the pasture without me. I have it posted on my border fence every 50 feet to beware of dogs.

    I had them kenneld up today because I had a friend coming out to bird hunt my back fields. If she had shown up any other day....

    If those dogs had been loose? This lady would have put herself and her daughter at risk! It even says in our messages that I have LGDs and they will be kenneled up when they arrive. But to make sure her daughter knew not to to by the kennel.

    So as I am listening to her gush over my gelding and all my tack too, I brake.

    I told her i will not be selling the horse to her, in fact i will be keeping him. (Not really)

    She flips out, says her daughter has fallen in love with him and just wants him for christmas. I am honestly in angry beeoch mode, I tell her simply that she can explain to her daughter that trespassing on people's property does not get her things she wants. I told her she is damn lucky I dont report her.

    But I am the meanie head that is ruining her daughter's christmas. That I must be hiding something cause I want her to see the horse at a certian time. My farm is not a public place it does not matter. I have a job I have to work so scheduling viewings is done for my sake and my bosses.

    I even explained to her the dog situation again, along with the stud horse. She seemed to think they would be fine around the dogs if they brought treats! No lady, those dogs do not care if you have food.

    I hung up before she could continue to argue how she was totally in her rights to go see a horse without its owner present a day early. She tried to call back a few times I ignored it and drove straight home from lunch.

    Everything Is at least where it should be, no tack missing. I still loaded up gelding in question and stud horse and took them over to a friends house to stay hidden for a while to see if this lady tries to come try anything. Stapled 8 more beware of dogs signs on the driveway and turned them out again. Try and come up thr drive again lady I freaking dare you

    Most my anger is coming from the idea of that little girl getting hurt due to her mothers stupidity. Who in their right mind thinks this behavior is okay??

    But apparently this is a trend now and normal? She had to make sure I was informed that it is totally okay and normal for horse buyers to come look when ever they want to make sure a horse is not drugged or worked before hand. That she had shown up a week early to a barn before and had no issues. (Calling bs on that)

    So is this really something people are telling one another to do? I seriously i understand an hour early, maybe a little more if it is a public barn with a resident trainer. But private property? Days early?? That is how people get hurt. That is now lawsuits happen.

    So please, if this is in fact a thing can we make it stop? Cause if it is I am taking gelding to the Salmon Select Sale and not dealing with anyone coming near my house again.




  • #2
    Holy crap! You have every right to be pissed. What nerve! And what an incredibly stupid thing to do, or to suggest someone do. It is not a thing horse buyers seem to be doing in my area. She’s very lucky you don’t press trespassing charges.
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    • #3
      Every time I think I have seen it all, along comes a new flavour of crazy to prove me wrong.

      Glad nothing worse happened!

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      • #4
        Wow. Just, wow. That woman is crazy.

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        • #5
          I would 100% report for trespassing. That behavior is, very literally, criminal.

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          • #6
            I don't think this is a trend and i'd be furious that some stranger took it upon themselves to help themselves to my horse and tack. I don't blame you one bit for hiding your horses etc. Might want to post some no trespassing signs as well. Sheesh. That woman has some gall.

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            • #7
              This is my biggest fear - bad/scary enough to have strangers ride on your property when you have general control of the situation, but OMG, this is awful! I would be just as mad, and I would be just as unwilling to sell the horse to the person!
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              • #8
                I suggest making a call to Child Protective Services.

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                • #9
                  Holy boundary issues batman.

                  I cannot - I absolutely can't even. Who the hell thinks it's appropriate to ride a strange horse they have never met, without the owner present? Which doesn't even factor in the trespass!! Oh my god!

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                  • #10
                    Wow, this is off the charts. Yes, as a buyer, I show up early. Right, like an hour early. No, not a DAY EARLY?!&*? And no, I for sure hope this is not a trend - riding the horse? Um, seriously? Who on earth would think this is OK? Whoa, all around. This is out of this world!

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                    • #11
                      WW !
                      Zu Zu Bailey " IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE ! "

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                      • #12
                        Aghasted does not even touch the Fringe of how WRONG this woman was

                        Yes, there is that old Caveat Emptor chestnut about showing up early so shady Seller cannot drug or work horse down before Buyer arrives.

                        But a day early, onto a private property and then take the liberty of riding a horse you don't own, unsupervised, using tack that is not yours(Buyers) is a whole new flavor of Entitled.
                        And putting your 8yo kid on said horse?
                        I have no words.

                        In your place, OP, not only would I have told her the horse was no longer for sale to her, but advised her she had trespassed and any further attempt would involve police.
                        *friend of bar.ka*RIP all my lovely boys, gone too soon:
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                        • #13
                          I would talk to LE about pressing charges. They likely won't want to take things all the way to court but might be willing to explain to this woman exactly what would be likely to happen if they couldn't persuade you to drop the charges.

                          Assuming she is local of course.

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                          • #14
                            I would seriously report her to the police and child services.

                            This is very scary.

                            You are lucky to have a place to hide your horses.

                            But really, she is that crazy that she needs a police intervention or else she will surely try to come back.

                            I’ve seen this happened, minus the riding, but someone I know was selling OTTBs and one buyer emailed her that she really enjoyed how the horse reacted to the little training session done in the stall... (This was at a very awkward barn and my friend was waiting for a spot to open somewhere else to move anyway, but she scolded the BO for letting a total stranger into her stall.)
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                            Originally posted by LauraKY
                            I'm sorry, but this has "eau de hoarder" smell all over it.
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                            • #15
                              So totally inappropriate!!!

                              And also probably exactly why sellers often don’t give the address until the day of. Which as buyer trying to plan ahead or figure out travel times can sometimes be annoying, but when I hear stories like this, I understand why!

                              I did once go see a horse I liked and was possibly interested in coming back to try for a second ride. Unfortunately the owner was heading out of town but told me I was more than welcome to come try the horse while they were away. It was a private farm, not a busy boarding barn no less. I was not at all comfortable coming back to try the horse without the seller present, even with their blessing!

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                              • #16
                                I have no words....WTF is wrong with people?
                                "He's not even a good pathological liar." Mara

                                "You're just a very desperate troll, and not even a good one. You're like middle-school troll at best. Like a goblin, not even a troll." et_fig

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                                • #17
                                  That's insane. I understand your concerns and why you chose to move your horses. Probably not necessary, but it's hard to concentrate at work when you are worried about trespassers. Perhaps it would be best to report it to the sheriffs in case there is any more trouble. Hope things get back to normal for you soon.

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                                  • #18
                                    I'd press charges, for sure. Zero tolerance policy for trespassing. What a NUT.

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                                    • #19
                                      The only bright side is: You now know for sure that this is not the right new owner for your gem of a horse.

                                      She is a wing-nut who probably read somewhere on the internet that being a little early might let you see the horse before it is prepared for a sale showing. She then rolled that out into a literally insane and illegal plan, and stepped all over your rights, putting her child's life at risk.

                                      I hope she backs off, and in your place, I would not hesitate to contact law enforcement if she makes any further attempt at contact. You have her photos with a time stamp for evidence she trespassed.

                                      Can you lock your gates?

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by rulex View Post

                                        And also probably exactly why sellers often don’t give the address until the day of. Which as buyer trying to plan ahead or figure out travel times can sometimes be annoying, but when I hear stories like this, I understand why!
                                        !
                                        Yep. I sell a fair amount of big items (such that you would see on my property if you just stopped by, not a dresser inside..) on Craigslist/Facebook marketplace, and I tell people they need to contact me the morning of/a few hours before for the exact address. If I give it before, I have absolutely had people show up the day before, hours early, hours late, etc. Giving them the address basically when they're leaving also confirms that they're coming, and tends to avoid wasting my time on no-shows.

                                        I give people the address of a pizza place a mile away to put into their GPS for planning purposes.

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