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  • CDL and commercial vs non commercial trailering DOT number

    Hello! Didn't know where else to post this.
    I'm very confused on the requirements for CDL or other new regulations for truck and trailers. Up to the minute!
    I have a 3500 Dually truck and a 5 horse EBY trailer. Combined weight is 32000lbs. This is not a commercial rig! We only haul our own horses and we do go long distance, say from New York to South Carolina or Florida. The trailer does have our farm logo on it. It also says not for hire. Should I be concerned? Do I need a DOT number and a CDL?
    Any info greatly appreciated!
    Thanks

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    The term "Commercial" in the CDL name confuses many people. In most of the states with which I am familiar, the need to have a CDL, usually a Class B, is based on the WEIGHT of the rig being driven. Your rig certainly qualifies as one requiring a Class B license, since the cut-off is 26,000 lbs. Check here for more info:

    There are different classes of commercial driver’s licenses that allow you to drive different CMVs. Here’s a breakdown of CDL classes.
    "Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexations to the spirit."
    - Desiderata, (c) Max Ehrman, 1926

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Nickmllbrk View Post
      Combined weight is 32000lbs.
      I am pretty sure you mean

      The gross combined weight rating or gross combination weight rating (GCWR) which is the maximum allowable combined mass of a truck, the passengers and cargo in the trailer,

      but ...to your question:... as a non-business use there is special classification for horses transport

      The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) has provided guidance regarding an exception to the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations (FMCSRs) for non-business related transportation of horses, including transportation to horse shows or other events. To qualify for this exception, there can be no compensation for the transportation, and the driver cannot be engaged in business related to the transportation (i.e., a professional racing operation transporting horses to a race).

      In such non-business related transportation, the FMCSRs do not apply, even if prize or scholarship money is offered. This exception includes Hours-of-Service (HOS) regulations, requirements for Electronic Logging Devices (ELDs) and Commercial Driver’s License (CDL) regulations, unless a CDL is required by the driver’s home state.
      https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/hours-serv...rtation-horses

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      • #4
        The issue of a DOT number is a different one. If you are hauling your own horses for your own use, you should not need one. More details are available here:
        Companies that operate commercial vehicles transporting passengers or hauling cargo in interstate commerce must be registered with the FMCSA and must have a USDOT Number. Also, commercial intrastate hazardous materials carriers who haul quantities requiring a safety permit must register for a USDOT Number.
        "Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexations to the spirit."
        - Desiderata, (c) Max Ehrman, 1926

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        • #5
          I called the DOT in my state and they were very helpful. I would suggest calling them to see what you need and your state's laws.
          Jacobson's Saddlery, LLC
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          • #6
            Call your home state and ask. There are so many different and very nuanced rules and unfortunately state regs supersede federal.
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