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  • Please sign if you support FEI reining

    Please sign if you in support of FEI Reining. https://www.change.org/p/world-wide-...90-en-au%3Av10
    Last edited by belambi; Nov. 2, 2019, 06:34 PM.
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    You may get more clicks on this thread if you put what they are supporting in the title
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      Good point! Thanks.
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      • #4
        Well, also posted in the western forum and here is my response:

        The way I see it, the FEI wants to become the international reining federation.
        They demand that everyone follow their rules, if they make sense or not for reining.
        It seems that is why they are threatening to take reining out of their line-up if other reining associations won't comply with their demands.

        Not sure it is in the best interest of reining to have an international group based on European concepts determining for every country which rules they need to follow.

        There is also much economic activity with reining.
        Money from that would flow to the FEI if they had more/total international control of reining.

        Not sure current associations would be very happy to relinquish that much control.
        They are who made reining as successful as it is as a self standing discipline.

        Here is more:

        http://www.wrsnieuws.eu/controversy-...n-against-fei/

        Will be interesting to see where this goes.
        Last edited by Bluey; Nov. 2, 2019, 08:03 PM.

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        • #5
          I would vote for FEI regulation if only because they require the competition horses to be six years old. I've seen enough 4 year old reiners already getting hock injections from training at two and showing in three year old futurities, if not totally crippled at 4 or 5. (Yes, I know there are exceptions, but it's like three year olds who retire sound after the Triple Crown races or even race at 4 of 5. Nice, but I wouldn't count on it.). Might slow some of those people down so they don't use of their horses so fast.

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            Originally posted by Belowthesalt View Post
            I would vote for FEI regulation if only because they require the competition horses to be six years old. I've seen enough 4 year old reiners already getting hock injections from training at two and showing in three year old futurities, if not totally crippled at 4 or 5. (Yes, I know there are exceptions, but it's like three year olds who retire sound after the Triple Crown races or even race at 4 of 5. Nice, but I wouldn't count on it.). Might slow some of those people down so they don't use of their horses so fast.
            This, and I believe the FEI will allow less drugging than....uh..... most disciplines allow.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Belowthesalt View Post
              I would vote for FEI regulation if only because they require the competition horses to be six years old. I've seen enough 4 year old reiners already getting hock injections from training at two and showing in three year old futurities, if not totally crippled at 4 or 5. (Yes, I know there are exceptions, but it's like three year olds who retire sound after the Triple Crown races or even race at 4 of 5. Nice, but I wouldn't count on it.). Might slow some of those people down so they don't use of their horses so fast.
              There are now plenty of studies that show that is not quite so, that starting horses early does prepare them considerably better to be the athletes that they are bred to be.
              Similar to a gymnast, or tennis or basketball player, that starting early grows and matures into the athletic body and muscle memory that makes them best at what they do, compared with those started later.
              That has been known now for long time:

              https://thehorse.com/151784/training-young-athletes/

              https://thehorse.com/150857/early-ex...ed-racehorses/

              https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4494282/

              As far as injuries, those may happen for several reasons other than when a horse is started and competed.
              Some are more common, not less, in horses started later, just as it would be for a kid in their twenties to start training for a sport and competing against those others that have been growing already practicing their sport and so more fit for that task.

              Anyway, if the FEI has reining or not is not dependent on what any one individual or group of them may want.

              This is a wrestling over who gets to run things, between different associations, each one vying for supremacy over the others.
              Last edited by Bluey; Nov. 4, 2019, 07:55 PM.

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              • Original Poster

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                Thanks All.. Just to clarify, Minimun age for FEI reining is currently 7. Thanks
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                  Originally posted by mvp View Post

                  This, and I believe the FEI will allow less drugging than....uh..... most disciplines allow.
                  Originally posted by Belowthesalt View Post
                  I would vote for FEI regulation if only because they require the competition horses to be six years old.
                  Yeah, just look at what a great job FEI has done ensuring the health and welfare of endurance horses. And what about the rampant corruption among FEI officials? FEI isn't better, it's just different. Pot meet kettle.

                  The bottom line is that this is a simple economic issue. Once the Americans have removed themselves from FEI reining competitions, there aren't enough competitors left to support it. The best way to get reining back into FEI (because termination is probably inevitable at this point) is for countries other than the US to build up their national programs and produce more international-level competitors, so that including reining in FEI becomes economically viable.
                  "Facts are meaningless. You can use facts to prove anything
                  that's even remotely true."

                  Homer Simpson

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                    Originally posted by Belowthesalt View Post
                    I would vote for FEI regulation if only because they require the competition horses to be six years old. I've seen enough 4 year old reiners already getting hock injections from training at two and showing in three year old futurities, if not totally crippled at 4 or 5. (Yes, I know there are exceptions, but it's like three year olds who retire sound after the Triple Crown races or even race at 4 of 5. Nice, but I wouldn't count on it.). Might slow some of those people down so they don't use of their horses so fast.
                    I think that conformation has something to do with soundness. The reiners and cutters mature into big bodies on small legs, and that happens around age 4+. You see it in racing too, the bigger horses are harder to keep sound. When they are young, they are a bit lighter, but once they start maturing and naturally putting on weight, it's harder to keep them sound.
                    "When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in a confederacy against him."

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                    • #11
                      I never really understood what the whole issue was about. Is FEI wanted the horses competing FEI to be 7 or older and AQHA wants them to be able to be younger? I really can't follow it.

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                      • #12
                        FEI wanted any reining competition for horses 7 & older to be FEI approved. That just doesn't work with the AQHA and NRHA class structures.
                        Only two emotions belong in the saddle: One is a sense of humor. The other is patience.

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