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Reminder: let's be careful out there... [girl loses hand in leading accident]

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  • #61
    Originally posted by sketcher View Post
    There is not a lot of difference between leading from a vehicle vs leading from a horse. You have to be prepared to let go of the rope in either case. I guess in a vehicle if the horse spooked or two horses came to blows you risk having them in your lap/on the vehicle. Leading from horseback presents a different scenario but you still just need to be able to let go of the rope and save yourself.
    It's very different and yes I would absolutely let go of them all if anything happened and because I never use cotton or nylon lead rope, only leather straps or reins, I can drop them at a moments notice. There is nothing for my arm or hand to get hooked up on, like a door or tailgate, all I need to do is simply let go. To be honest I don't really need to lead them, the buggers would just follow if I rode the lead horse, they are such dopes-on-ropes (but not literally )

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    • #62
      WOW I am speechless - severed hand

      This is horrible:

      http://www.dressagedaily.com/index.p...010&Itemid=437

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      • #63
        Severed *hand*

        How insane to have a rope wrapped around any body part

        Lots of jingles that they were able to reattach her hand
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        • #64
          Oops, should have been hand. I edited the OP

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          • #65
            how horrid! here is hoping she is okay.

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            • #66
              Um I heard its a negative on the hand reattachment.
              --Luck is what happens when preparedness meets opportunity--

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Justmyluck View Post
                Um I heard its a negative on the hand reattachment.
                I heard about this in class on Monday. Poor girl

                Where were the TA's or PI's that let her do that??? The teaching units are supposed to teach. I just can't believe no one stopped her from (a) leading a horse through an open truck window or (b) wrapping the lead rope around her wrist.

                Jingling hard for her!!!
                The knowledge of the nature of a horse is one of the first foundations of the art if riding it, and every horseman must make it his principal study.
                ~Francois Robichon de la Gueriniere

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                • #68
                  I can't even bring myself to read the article. Had a friend a few years ago who degloved her thumb in a trailer-loading accident and eventually lost the thumb. Aaagh, accidents happen, but such wrecks are so easily avoided with care and forethought.

                  Sending prayers for this girl.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Cloverbarley View Post
                    It's very different and yes I would absolutely let go of them all if anything happened and because I never use cotton or nylon lead rope, only leather straps or reins, I can drop them at a moments notice. There is nothing for my arm or hand to get hooked up on, like a door or tailgate, all I need to do is simply let go. To be honest I don't really need to lead them, the buggers would just follow if I rode the lead horse, they are such dopes-on-ropes (but not literally )
                    What I meant was the premise is still the same in how you go about releasing the horse. And if you are holding the rope out the door or off the tailgate then as long as you don't get caught in your rope, there is nothing to get caught on either. There are things that are just as dangerous about ponying from horseback. I wouldn't be comfortable ponying off a vehicle because at least on a horse you have responsiveness but they both have opportunity for accident.

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                    • #70
                      The word around school is no reattachment, that the girl was supposed to be quite a skilled horsewoman and appearently did not wrap the line that the line flipped around her wrist. The repro/research unit in ocala does not hold class. They hire/let skilled students work there.
                      --Luck is what happens when preparedness meets opportunity--

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                      • #71
                        Sounds like a horse/rope accident that could happen to anyone. Ropes and horses.
                        “Most people do not listen with the intent to understand; they listen with the intent to reply.” Stephen R. Covey

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                        • #72
                          So sorry for the girl. Sad that the Dr's were unable to reattch it.

                          speaking of equine stupditiy in the media does any one remember a bit over a decade ago( perhaps closer to 15 yrs ago) Wal Mart had a printed ad with 2 girls and a horse? One girl I seem to recall the one mounted was in flip flops, and a tube top.
                          The on the ground girl had on sneakers, lead through the gate, lead wraped around her had, and much more wrong in the ad. I only remember it because I saw it and emailed walmart about how many things were wrong with the picture. Oh yeah the mounted girl had no helmet and she was clearly a minor.

                          I do have to admit that I have done some of the cardnal sins of leading horses. Ie slippers in the morning, drapping lead of shoulder, allowing horse to either lag behind or be ahead.. And I am sure if I thought real hard I could come up with more.
                          Like many others here I was lucky the horses I was a around when doing this did not freak out or I'd probaby be a few digits short of a full body..
                          Friend of bar .ka

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Justmyluck View Post
                            The word around school is no reattachment, that the girl was supposed to be quite a skilled horsewoman and appearently did not wrap the line that the line flipped around her wrist. The repro/research unit in ocala does not hold class. They hire/let skilled students work there.
                            Whether there was a class there or not, because it is a research facility, there should have been grad students or PI's around somewhere to offer some basic ground rules. They may not have been there at that moment, but I can't imagine that they just turn out new/freshman employees without any initial supervision.

                            I've been known to lead a horse from a golf cart on occasion, but considering the liability involved, I can't imagine that the people in charge would allow anything like it at a UF facility. Regardless of blame, I expect UF will see some trouble from this.

                            Obviously this was a horrible accident, and could happen to any of us, because we're all known to do silly things once in a while. I've thought about her a lot this week, and I'm jingling and praying like mad for her. We all are here.
                            The knowledge of the nature of a horse is one of the first foundations of the art if riding it, and every horseman must make it his principal study.
                            ~Francois Robichon de la Gueriniere

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                            • #74
                              I guess, to Cloverbarley's point, if she were ponying from horseback she might have been lucky and been able to free herself or been pulled off her horse but still had her hand instead of being pulled tight against a truck door.

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                              • #75
                                I know a guy who nearly got killed by horses more than once, and still has not learned. He leads them without a leadrope, two at a time, and has done the same thing this girl did. In one riding accident he actually died and got revived!

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                                • #76
                                  Originally posted by Kaelurus View Post
                                  Whether there was a class there or not, because it is a research facility, there should have been grad students or PI's around somewhere to offer some basic ground rules. They may not have been there at that moment, but I can't imagine that they just turn out new/freshman employees without any initial supervision.

                                  I've been known to lead a horse from a golf cart on occasion, but considering the liability involved, I can't imagine that the people in charge would allow anything like it at a UF facility. Regardless of blame, I expect UF will see some trouble from this.

                                  Obviously this was a horrible accident, and could happen to any of us, because we're all known to do silly things once in a while. I've thought about her a lot this week, and I'm jingling and praying like mad for her. We all are here.

                                  I completely agree. Its being kept on the extreme down low.
                                  --Luck is what happens when preparedness meets opportunity--

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                                  • #77
                                    Originally posted by sketcher View Post
                                    I guess, to Cloverbarley's point, if she were ponying from horseback she might have been lucky and been able to free herself or been pulled off her horse but still had her hand instead of being pulled tight against a truck door.
                                    Or she could have kept her hand and been dragged to death. You never know.

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