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Warwick Schiller has changed how he trains horses

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  • Warwick Schiller has changed how he trains horses

    I'm not a big Warwick Schiller fan (I don't use his website or anything.) I'm a Dressage rider but do think some of his stuff was useful as well as some of other trainers like Buck Brannaman. Heck, as I kid I even learned about horse body language from Monty Roberts ( and that might be all, but that's a new discussion!)

    Anyways, I hadn't seen a Warwick Schiller video in a long time. I was very surprised to see the video like above and see he now talks a lot about relationship and connection with horses which was lacking years before. I thought it was pretty cool to see him be so open about things he used to think or do but he know things weren't right or weren't always right for every horse. Honestly it's not something you see from horse trainers a lot or at least not the BNT types.

    Maybe it's a gimmick but watching his videos, I feel it's sincere. I almost think at times he seems nearly emotional. I get the feeling that he feels very strongly about the new change. I think it's very cool to see. Although I personally have no issues with the connection, I need to be a little more black and white and firmer. But it's cool to see him on this journey and I think it'll benefit others!
    Last edited by Lunabear1988; Oct. 23, 2019, 04:40 PM.
  • Original Poster

    #2 just realized that silly me didn't link the video


    • #3
      I've been a fan of his for a few years. Really enjoying his new way of thinking.


      • Original Poster

        I'm very impressed with this new way of thinking and how open he's being about it. That's not common among trainers (imo!)


        • #5
          I didn't get anything out of that video. Maybe you have to be a subscriber on youtube to get to the meat of it? He said he thinks differently, he listens more. But I didn't get anything about how that has changed his training, or how it made any difference to Sherlock. What did I miss?


          • #6
            I didn't get anything out of the first video either, about Sherlock, but the next video, about the mustang gelding, is very interesting.
            Mystic Owl Sporthorses


            • Original Poster

              aregard there are lots of other videos talking about his new approach and mindset on his YouTube. I don't subscribe but I think his YouTube is just little clips and full videos are through a subscription.

              I apologise I was just sharing my surprise about how he's changed more than anything specific about training technique.


              • Original Poster

                clint yeah that was probably the better one to link.


                • #9
                  Yes, watch the next video about the mustang Cody; it's very interesting.
                  "The formula 'Two and two make five' is not without its attractions." --Dostoevsky


                  • Original Poster

                    aregard my take away from some of the newer videos is he reading the horses a little more versus just telling them what to do. Less demand, more listening. I am not sure yet how this changes his approach overall. But I like that he's thinking in that direction.


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Lunabear1988 View Post
                      aregard my take away from some of the newer videos is he reading the horses a little more versus just telling them what to do. Less demand, more listening. I am not sure yet how this changes his approach overall. But I like that he's thinking in that direction.
                      I read it as he is waiting longer for the horse to completely relax before moving on. Not just standing still and licking and chewing, but letting the horse stand until it's completely relaxed and accepting of the situation. I think that is the hardest thing for trainers to master, since there is usually a timeline involved (horse is competing on XX/XX/XX date and I NEED to have maneuver Y perfected). At least for me. But I find that a relaxed horse gives the best performance, and not having to work a horse down to get to that relaxed state happens much faster if you go the mental route than the physical route.
                      "When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in a confederacy against him."


                      • Original Poster

                        Palm Beach yes you are right. He talks about how he used to be more on a timeline because of having horses in for training. Now he feels he can take more time with them.


                        • #13
                          I just recently subscribed and I am getting a lot out of his training videos. I have trained many horses, but I really like the way he breaks things down and his consideration for the horse you have in front of you, on that day. I am really enjoying my subscription so far and there is a whole library of 450 plus videos on pretty much everything imaginable!


                          • #14
                            Today I'm in the house waiting for Nestor to blow himself out, so I signed up for a seven-day free trial. I just watched the one where the guy halter breaks the foals. Way less traumatic than I've ever seen it done! Thanks, y'all, this looks interesting.
                            I'm not ignoring the rules. I'm interpreting the rules. Tamal, The Great British Baking Show


                            • #15
                              I like his newer stuff too, and I've followed his stuff for several years now. If you like his new stuff, I really recommend Anna Blake, who is where he found a lot of his 'calming signals' stuff from. I went to one of her clinics and for me, it was brilliant.


                              • #16
                                Love Anna Blake! I subscribe to her newsletter!
                                I'm not ignoring the rules. I'm interpreting the rules. Tamal, The Great British Baking Show


                                • #17
                                  HUGE Anna Blake fan! I would love to attend one of her clinics. I am also very impressed with Warwick's new approach and his openness about his journey.


                                  • #18
                                    His name is actually spelled Warwick (in case anyone comes through wanting to Google his name). He's fantastic. I've been following his methods for a year or so, and audited a clinic earlier this year. Super cool stuff, that really emphasizes the relationship and mental aspect of horse training. Like any good trainer, he would tell you that it just takes as long as it is going to take, but the end result is worth it. The struggle is having the patience to see it through, of course!


                                    • Original Poster

                                      CPL713 oops! You are right. I edited it thank you.


                                      • #20
                                        Lunabear1988 no worries! The way you spelled it is how it is pronounced...meanwhile, I used to think it was pronounced War-wick. lol