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  • Do you like silicone vs suede for your 'stick'?

    Trying to get some info here. I personally have never ridden in anything silicone grip.

    Educate me. Thanks.
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    I prefer Silicone
    54.55%
    30
    I prefer Suede or Ultrasuede
    36.36%
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    I prefer one over the other in certain circumstances (please elaborate below)
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  • #2
    I voted silicon, although most of my breeches are regular full seats. My show breeches have a regular full seat with silicone on top, and it GLUES me to the saddle. They're the Horze Desiree line if you're looking into new breeches.

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    • #3
      I don't like suede full seats (hard to find the right fit / not comfortable) so for full seat I'd go with silicone. Knee patch I don't really care. But if I'm going for stickiness I think the long strips of silicon (like these:https://img.ridingwarehouse.com/wate...=OVAX-TN-4.jpg) are more effective then dots.
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      • #4
        I’ve been a diehard FITS partisan for over 10 years, but the quality was never super and the price just kept increasing as the quality declined. I recently got fed up and bought a few pairs of non-FITS breeches and tights with silicone and I mostly love it and wish I’d switched over much sooner. I was very slow to realize that real leather is not necessarily the best game in town any more. This particular brand feels just the right amount of tacky, though the tights work a bit better than the breeches. In the breeches, I feel like they are a bit too sticky for jumping, which I know sounds backward like I would want more tackiness for jumping, but I felt my legs were getting a bit stuck when I wanted to step into my stirrups. This isn’t a problem at all in the tights, I think because my legs can move a little bit within the fabric? I don’t know. I’m very happy with them.

        I have heard that the stickiness eventually wears off, but since they are 1/3 the price of the FITS and otherwise at least as good quality if not better, I won’t mind replacing them when the time comes.

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        • #5
          For those who like silicon, do you have any issues with posting? I exclusively ride in suede but a few years ago I was gifted some kerrits with silicon. It felt like my pants were getting left behind each step that I posted! It also had a slightly audible stick and dettach sound that I found offputting. Did I just get a pair of absurdly sticky silicon breeches or is that typical? If I spent most of my ride sitting the trot the idea of them sounds very appealing.

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          • #6
            Mine don’t, but they do leave behind the pattern of the silicone on my saddle.

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            • #7
              I just got my first pair of silicone (knee patch) last year and have to say I find them to be TOO grippy.
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              • #8
                I've always worried that silicone would cause excessive wear on the seat of my saddle.

                I've ridden in suede fullseats for years. I really liked FITS for awhile, but then they made some sort of seaming change and they were causing a...situation... that was not fit for public viewing. I ended up giving away a couple of basically brand new pairs.

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                • #9
                  Depends. Some silicon is too sticky. Some (like Kerritts) is too slick. Some of the man-made "suede" seems to have no effect. And some of the man made suede is really hot.
                  I have some silicon breeches I like, but for clinics and shows I prefer FITS or other real leather.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by rothmpp View Post
                    I've always worried that silicone would cause excessive wear on the seat of my saddle.

                    I've ridden in suede fullseats for years. I really liked FITS for awhile, but then they made some sort of seaming change and they were causing a...situation... that was not fit for public viewing. I ended up giving away a couple of basically brand new pairs.
                    Oh yeah, my most recent pair pilled on the inside upper leg by my butt cheeks, and the pills are like sharp little rocks, ouch! I think that was the last straw for me.

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                    • #11
                      Cobra saddlery says on the website that silicone isn't good for the saddle because it acts like a rubber. Personally I don't like silicone because some is too sticky and the material disappears - too expensive for this.

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                      • #12
                        I do not like silicone grip breeches at all. I don't want to be glued to the saddle anyway. I don't think they're that great for the saddle long term either... But that's just a guess. It's a tad frustrating because it's actually become more difficult to find breeches without silicone grip. All of the new styles seem to come only in silicon grip. I ride in Pikeur and Cavallo breeches and they still have some suede seat styles left fortunately.

                        I just don't understand the appeal of silicone, personally.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by GraceLikeRain View Post
                          For those who like silicon, do you have any issues with posting? I exclusively ride in suede but a few years ago I was gifted some kerrits with silicon. It felt like my pants were getting left behind each step that I posted! It also had a slightly audible stick and dettach sound that I found offputting. Did I just get a pair of absurdly sticky silicon breeches or is that typical? If I spent most of my ride sitting the trot the idea of them sounds very appealing.
                          Yes, I had this issue with mine. I didn't like the way I felt like I couldn't move in the saddle without the breeches sticking and pulling.
                          However - when I went on a beach ride those were the ones I pulled out!! LOL.

                          I much prefer either suede or deerskin for my full seat.

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                          • #14
                            I far prefer the silicone if I'm going to wear full seat. Mostly because I can just toss them in the washer/dryer. They are also are a lot cooler. My only issue with them is that my truck has vinyl seats and I get stuck to the seats with the silicone lol!
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by CanteringCarrot View Post
                              I do not like silicone grip breeches at all. I don't want to be glued to the saddle anyway. I don't think they're that great for the saddle long term either... But that's just a guess. It's a tad frustrating because it's actually become more difficult to find breeches without silicone grip. All of the new styles seem to come only in silicon grip. I ride in Pikeur and Cavallo breeches and they still have some suede seat styles left fortunately.

                              I just don't understand the appeal of silicone, personally.
                              I completely agree with this...

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                              • #16
                                Neither, thanks.
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                                • #17
                                  I ride dressage and I generally prefer suede (actually faux-suede fabric), but I recently got a pair of Hadley breeches in FS silicone on a crazy sale and they have a similar "stick" level as my other breeches and they aren't as hot out of the saddle as my other full-seats. The pattern of the silicone is pretty small, which I think is part of getting the right balance of stickiness. They also don't make me stick to my truck's leather seats when I get in and out. I might try other silicone breeches that have minimal silicone patterning.

                                  I have tried and didn't like tights with silicone - the stick of the silicone was stronger than the fabric in the tights and it felt like I was moving around inside my breeches, plus they stick a bit too much to the truck seats. I keep them for working in the barn on hot days when I'm not riding, but any pair of Walmart tights would work for that.
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                                  • #18
                                    Does anyone have experience with silicon breeches and a synthetic English saddle? I currently have faux suede in either knee patch or one pair of full seat (I hate them except for really cold days). I want to get another pair of full seat breeches but since the ones I have don't fit properly I have been looking a silicon. I don't mind being a bit more glued to the saddle but still need to be able to post properly without leave my pants behind. I also don't want to damage the fabric on the seat of my saddle.
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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Bugs's Mom View Post
                                      Does anyone have experience with silicon breeches and a synthetic English saddle? I currently have faux suede in either knee patch or one pair of full seat (I hate them except for really cold days). I want to get another pair of full seat breeches but since the ones I have don't fit properly I have been looking a silicon. I don't mind being a bit more glued to the saddle but still need to be able to post properly without leave my pants behind. I also don't want to damage the fabric on the seat of my saddle.
                                      I use a set on my wintec and havent had any issues. That said I found the silicone to be less sticky on the wintec when compared to my leather saddle.

                                      I'm a fan of silicone for cross country and green horses because they keep me stuck to the saddle. Im also not picky about breeches and will use anything I can get my hands on. My favorite full seat I own are true suede (like actual leather). No idea how I got them or what brand they are but they keep my butt nicely in the saddle.

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                                      • #20
                                        I like silicon full seats for warm-weather riding. They breathe well and offer more flexibility int he saddle. Some brands and models are too sticky (the piper knit breech) but the Hadley breech is good. I've like the stick level of the Dublin cool gel, but don't love the fabric or lack of pockets. I have all of my faux suede breeches for fall/ winter riding since they are just a touch thicker.

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