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    Hay holder ideas for old men?

    We just moved farms, and our two cushings horses are out in a 1 acre paddock with a run in. It's actually very similar to where they were before, except their old run in was larger, but I digress.

    Anyway, here is the issue. Both are old and skinny, and will be getting hay in the winter. However, while my gelding has no issues eating hay, the other gelding quids like crazy. He also has a tendency to pee on the hay if it's on the ground. We don't really have the option of NOT giving them hay, and the vet approved of hay in their field (they do get alfalfa cubes with breakfast/dinner too).

    Last year we used one hay bag, and our feeders (working boarders) would have to refill each feeding... but most just threw it on the ground. I'm not sure if we will have that same issue this year, but I'm trying to come up with an easier way to feed hay, without leaving it on the ground to be ruined by a grouchy old man. They also definitely need ore hay than that. While they're inside, this is not an issue. But during the day, or on mild nights, I need to figure something out.

    Any ideas? We are getting hay huts for the other horses, but I don't think those would work for these two. I should mention - they'll be getting straight alfalfa and/or an alfalfa/orchard mix, most likely square bales. I don't mind putting hay in their run in to keep it dry, as long as it's off the ground.

    One of these or similar .
    ... _. ._ .._. .._


      we solved it by solving another problem of keeping the miniatures out of the alfalfa, put a 100 gallon water trough in a wagon then hay is put in trough. An added advantage is cart can be moved indoors if rain (every happens). also easy to transfer from pen to pen
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        A friend has always fed pastured horses hay in old water troughs that have leaks.
        She feeds small bale flakes and horses rarely pull much out to waste it or use for a bathroom.
        She can move those troughs around easily to other spots or pastures.

        They are troughs of different sizes, but all a size horses can reach the middle easily from any place around them, not too big, where they may fall into it while leaning over or pushed into.
        She has recycled a few of our old ones just for that.

        The one Clanter uses is great, especially that it is elevated enough to keep little mischief from overeating.
        Just wonder if some bored horses may play with it and end up getting scratched on the metal?

        I don't much like hay feeding systems for regular, not the rare use, like hauling, where horses have to turn their heads and pull hay out, like hanging feeders or nets.
        Horse necks are not designed for regularly eating with bent necks and pulling, but low heads straight and biting grass off.

        Here is another solution from internet images, hay rack on the fence, small tub below for any that spills, so horse won't trash it:



          Purchased at our local co-op at a very significant discount.


            I've used a plastic, 55 gallon barrel with the top cut will easily hold a whole bale of hay and prevent a lot of waste. Fasten it to a wall indoors or a outdoors make sure you drill holes in the bottom of the barrel for drainage.
            Breeders of Painted Thoroughbreds and Uniquely Painted Irish Sport Horses in Northeast Oklahoma


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              Thank you guys so much! We do have 2 extra troughs I could use, though they don't leak or have holes (yet). clanter That's such a great idea! And way easier to move a wagon than just dragging a trough. Definitely going to run up to the co op and look at the hay basket and bale feeder. They both are good options. Bluey I agree I don't want to use the hay nets on the regular, especially for these guys. My guy has no issues pulling hay, but I worry about the other one's teeth, and not being able to get enough. Though maybe a combo of a trough and a net would work, or something similar to what you posted.


                There are ways to feed horses where they don't step on and urinate on their hay as some do, like this stalls in Europe, some large enough for multiple horses, some for individual ones.
                The bars are far apart so they can reach thru them and eat from some other outside the stall, so the hay stays untrampled.
                If you still have too much waste, you could rig something like this?


                  I use an old Rubbermaid water trough with extra holes drilled in bottom for drainage, and clip a hay net into the trough. You can get hay nets that easily hold a small bale of hay, and they are available with large as well as small holes. Horse eats with head down, doesn't need to pull hay with a jerk. The old fashioned rope hay nets had enormous holes! The net just prevents hay being flung out of trough and wasted.


                    Originally posted by Bluey View Post
                    The bars are far apart
                    we had one mare who liked beer and that was her complaint that the bars were never near enough


                      Originally posted by clanter View Post

                      we had one mare who liked beer and that was her complaint that the bars were never near enough
                      Just curious, would a bar sell to a horse under the age limit?


                        Originally posted by Bluey View Post

                        Just curious, would a bar sell to a horse under the age limit?
                        she was actually over 21, but I often suspected she was slipping out at night


                          Originally posted by clanter View Post

                          she was actually over 21, but I often suspected she was slipping out at night
                          As an adult, of legal age, as long as she was not driving under the influence ...


                            If you can find one, an inside out tire with a stall mat cut to cover the hole on the bottom; install eye bolts to clip hay nets to. This tire is big enough for 2 small bales---


                              Original Poster

                              I don't think the bars idea would work for us, but I love those stalls. But I do think you guys are on to something... clearly these boys are coming home plastered, and peeing wherever, even if it's in their hay!

                              Thanks again for all of the suggestions. I'm going to check out a couple options and see what works best for them (and my wallet!).


                                I'm with you - bars and horses don't mix;
                                ... _. ._ .._. .._


                                  Originally posted by Bluey View Post

                                  As an adult, of legal age, as long as she was not driving under the influence ...
                                  well, she was broke to harness ....


                                    Originally posted by Bluey View Post

                                    Just curious, would a bar sell to a horse under the age limit?
                                    30 years ago I was part of a co-op barn. We had somebody that had moved from CT to PA and was boarding with us. She had a horse that colicing regularly in CT and the BO there would give him a double shot of whiskey and it seemed to work for him. So Jag starts to colic. The problem is it is late enough the state liquor stores are closed. The only option is getting the whiskey from a bar. I could not figure out how to explain to her how to get to the closest bar so I went. The problem was I was only 20 so underage. When I explained to the bartender what I needed the whiskey for he laughed and gave it to me in a styrofoam coffee cup. He figured either the story was true or since it was the most unique tall tale he was ever told I could have the whiskey anyway.

                                    Looking back I am actually now convinced that the horse was not actually colicing and in fact had choke. Either way the whiskey seemed to relax him enough to help whatever he had going on.

                                    No I do not recommend giving whiskey to a horse with either choke or colic. (Remember this was 30 years ago we did stupid things back then). Heck the year before that I worked at a farm that would have the outdoor riding ring sprayed with used motor oil every year to keep the dust down.
                                    Oh, well, clearly you're not thoroughly indoctrinated to COTH yet, because finger pointing and drawing conclusions are the cornerstones of this great online community. (Tidy Rabbit)