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  • #61
    Originally posted by Bluey View Post

    Here it seems that there are several levels of "full care".
    Some of those boarding places are run by retired people that live there:

    https://amarillo.craigslist.org/grd/...925642668.html

    Clients here come care for their horses and ride in the evenings.
    In the mornings most don't have time to travel many miles to the barn, clean themselves after being in the barn and drive more miles to their jobs.

    Seems that boarding barns have learned that cleaning after and feeding mornings for the boarders attracts clients.
    If people live where distances are not great, everything close, maybe other management will attract boarders there.

    I think our local conditions is why those alternative management situations evolved.

    My point was missed, that there are places where boarding is not that expensive.
    Yeah, it's not that expensive because it's not actually full care.

    If the client is doing half the work and has to show up at the barn twice a day to complete the care regimen for the animal, you can call it full care all week long and twice in Tuesdays but it's not full care.

    When you can leave your horse and a stack of signed checks with your barn owner and go on a year long deployment to antartica where you will be unreachable, but you are confident that your horse's stall will be cleaned, his comprehensive feeding schedule maintained, his water buckets filled and cleaned, his turn out schedule maintained, the farrier called, his grooming needs met, and his vaccination and other veterinary appointments will be handled, and you will come back a year later to a horse that is fat slick and happy and UTD on all shots, THEN you are getting "full care."

    "Full" means "full", not "some of the care but not all".
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    • #62
      Originally posted by enjoytheride View Post

      So you might be leaving one horse at this barn? There's no way I'd do that, even for the sake of continuing a lease.
      She’s considering moving the mare back to a fancy dressage barn, not leaving her where she is.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Emily&Jake View Post

        I live/board my horse in a rural area fifty ish miles from OP and full care board is $120 a month. $400+ is definitely not the norm here, or on the low end.
        I can't imagine any board, let alone full care, being that inexpensive. I keep four horses at home and it costs me $200 - 250 per week for the basics. Plus of course the work.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Baboo View Post

          I can't imagine any board, let alone full care, being that inexpensive. I keep four horses at home and it costs me $200 - 250 per week for the basics. Plus of course the work.
          The cost of facilities and maintenance of those alone makes boarding an iffy proposition for any boarding barn.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by seabreeze View Post

            Feeding grain to the horse that shouldn’t have grain is a question of appropriate care, in my opinion.
            I've been wondering all along if they even are feeding him the grain... or just charging for it, while not feeding it to him.

            I've been in these shoes, where suddenly care is being doled out in a nickel and diming, charges for every little thing previously included fashion, and being charged for things not done/given often was part of that charade.

            Where I live $450 won't get you field board. That starts in the $600 range nowadays. Comparing prices on this board is an exercise in futility.
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              #66
              Originally posted by enjoytheride View Post

              So you might be leaving one horse at this barn? There's no way I'd do that, even for the sake of continuing a lease.
              No! Gosh, no! I am planning on meeting pony club kid and her Mom at the fancy barn I want to move to, not at the barn mare is currently at. Both my horses are leaving the current barn.
              Sheilah

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              • #67
                As far as cost of board it depends what you want. My board is less than half of another barn in the area. I give great care, have nice fields for turn out, good footing in the indoor, look after them as if they were my own BUT; I don't have chandeliers in the bathroom, air-condition in the barn, grand piano in the viewing lounge, fresh flowers, fridge, microwave, coffee etc.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Emily&Jake View Post

                  I live/board my horse in a rural area fifty ish miles from OP and full care board is $120 a month. $400+ is definitely not the norm here, or on the low end.
                  And I wish I were farther out from the "urban hub" that I live in, because I would have more choice and the cost would be lower.

                  I moved here 19 years ago. Boise still had horses kept in back yards. Where I live was pretty rural, even though we are just outside of Boise. Boarding opportunities were abundant, from self-care to pasture board to full care training facilities.

                  But that just isn't the case anymore. It has gotten harder and harder to find barns. Subdivisions have exploded like mushrooms. I don't even care about trail access like I use to when I first moved here. I just want decent quality and knowledgeable BOs/BMs. I like settling in at a barn and staying. I hate hopping from one place to another.
                  Sheilah

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Cat Tap View Post
                    As far as cost of board it depends what you want. My board is less than half of another barn in the area. I give great care, have nice fields for turn out, good footing in the indoor, look after them as if they were my own BUT; I don't have chandeliers in the bathroom, air-condition in the barn, grand piano in the viewing lounge, fresh flowers, fridge, microwave, coffee etc.
                    No coffee..!!!

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Angela Freda View Post
                      I've been in these shoes, where suddenly care is being doled out in a nickel and diming, charges for every little thing previously included fashion, and being charged for things not done/given often was part of that charade.
                      If a business is going to raise their rates, while also instituting charges for previously included services like putting on fly masks when horses go to turn out and not improving facilities or offering something new to make the increase and nickel and dime nature of the fee structure understandable? Just looking at it from a simple cost-to-benefit ratio, what is in it for me as a boarder?

                      I looked at the numbers and if I look at the new rate of $550 for my mare, and include in all the extra charges for fly masks and fly spray and a new mandatory holding fee for the farrier for all horses in the facility (even though both my horses fall asleep in the cross ties and my farrier has always gotten them from turn out and put them back), it is only about $100 cheaper than the fancy place with an indoor. Of course, I will have to take a minimum number of lessons, but that might push me to invest more effort in my riding.
                      Sheilah

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by Bluey View Post

                        The cost of facilities and maintenance of those alone makes boarding an iffy proposition for any boarding barn.
                        Which is why there usually needs to be a lesson program to make money. At least, that has been my experience.
                        Sheilah

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                        • #72
                          I think I understand why they are itemizing those things as extras, basically it is a form of false advertising, like apartments that bill separately for water. DDs apartment complex took the gross charge for water for the entire complex and divided it equally among tthe units, not only did the single renter end up subsidizing the family of five ( I don't recall if they based the fee on apartment size but still) but the water pipes on the grounds had multiple leaks. The apartment cost X, and now plus Y.

                          As well they may charge for services not performed, keeping track is a lot of extra paperwork and they may well decide to average it out and not in your favor.

                          Time to move on, best of luck!
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by meupatdoes View Post

                            In what everloving universe is feeding a horse once a day full care???
                            The same universe where full care boarding only provides a certain amount of hay and boarders have to purchase their own if they want their horse to have enough.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by seabreeze View Post

                              Feeding grain to the horse that shouldn’t have grain is a question of appropriate care, in my opinion.
                              A handful of grain isn't going to send any horse on a downhill spiral. I agree that if the horse needed something to pacify him at feeding times it should have been discussed with the owner and an appropriate food of owners choosing should be provided for that.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by candyappy View Post

                                The same universe where full care boarding only provides a certain amount of hay and boarders have to purchase their own if they want their horse to have enough.
                                If a boarding contract says they will provide X% of horse body weight in X hay, that is the contract. If a horse owner wants a different hay or more hay, then the facility is not on the hook for that *shrug*. I have boarded in the past and my contract said everyone pays X amount and receives A, B, and C in return (turnout, water, evening feed, X amt hay twice a day, whatever). When someone boarded a draft with me and wanted 3x day hay feeding and more hay, why should I eat that cost? And why should the other boarders pay the same for what is less?
                                Last edited by TheJenners; Jul. 28, 2019, 05:53 PM. Reason: Engrish
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                                  #76
                                  Done deal. Mare is going back to dressage barn and gelding is going back to his previous barn for retirement. Pony club kid has opted to stay at current barn, which is a better fit for her. Dressage barn is more geared towards adult riders.

                                  So, all is well.
                                  Sheilah

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                                  • #77
                                    Sure will make for a less stressful life, not being involved in that other place any more.

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                                    • #78
                                      Good update. Maybe you'll find a half-leaser at the new barn
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                                      • #79
                                        Originally posted by TheJenners View Post
                                        Good update. Maybe you'll find a half-leaser at the new barn
                                        That, maybe even the new barn could eventually use her for some lessons themselves?

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                                        • #80
                                          Well, that's a relief !

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