Sport Horse Spotlight


Sale Spotlight

COTH_without Subscribe
  • Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.



Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You�re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the Forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it�details of personal disputes may be better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts, though are not legally obligated to do so, regardless of content.

Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting. Moderators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts unless they have been alerted and have determined that a post, thread or user has violated the Forums� policies. Moderators do not regularly independently monitor the Forums for such violations.

Profanity, outright vulgarity, blatant personal insults or otherwise inappropriate statements will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

Users may provide their positive or negative experiences with or opinions of companies, products, individuals, etc.; however, accounts involving allegations of criminal behavior against named individuals or companies MUST be first-hand accounts and may NOT be made anonymously.

If a situation has been reported upon by a reputable news source or addressed by law enforcement or the legal system it is open for discussion, but if an individual wants to make their own claims of criminal behavior against a named party in the course of that discussion, they too must identify themselves by first and last name and the account must be first-person.

Criminal allegations that do not satisfy these requirements, when brought to our attention, may be removed pending satisfaction of these criteria, and we reserve the right to err on the side of caution when making these determinations.

Credible threats of suicide will be reported to the police along with identifying user information at our disposal, in addition to referring the user to suicide helpline resources such as 1-800-SUICIDE or 1-800-273-TALK.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it�s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users� profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses � Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it�s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who�s selling it, it doesn�t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions � Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services � Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products � While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements � Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be �bumped� excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues � Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators� discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the �alert� button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your �Ignore� list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you�d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user�s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 5/9/18)
See more
See less

What exactly is a "hot" horse?

  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Groom&Taxi
    I like @beau159's description of "hot" best (so far). To me, it's a horse that while doing fairly normal horse jobs has the tendency to get worked up to the point that the line between safe and dangerous behavior is more likely to be crossed.

    Leave a comment:

  • beau159
    To me, a "hot" horse is one that will get "worked up" when doing certain things. In general, they tend to have more energy as well.

    For example, a jumping horse that really gets prancy before a course.
    Or a barrel racing horse that really gets on the muscle before a run.
    Or a reining horse that needs to be "ridden down" before they go in the show pen.

    To me, "hot" has nothing to do with being spooky. Or being sane.

    You can certainly blow up a hot horse (and make them not sane) if you overwork or overdo it with them, but of course that's the fault of the rider and not the horse.

    One horse I have now (Dexter), I could consider him "hot" at times. He is very sensitive and very light and can get prancy (but still listens). For example, some days he will just not walk home nicely. He'll do more of a jog/jig. While I could force him to walk, sometimes it's a matter of picking your battles because I know that's just his temperment. However, most of the time he will walk along fine on a loose rein.

    He's the type of horse that would probably loose him mind if someone whipped/spurred him a lot, and would certainly lose his mind if he were over-run numerous times on speed events. He just mentally would not handle that. To me, that's what "hot" means.

    Leave a comment:

  • Sweetums Mom
    "Hot" means to me a horse that you just need to "think" and s/he does..... Love those!

    Leave a comment:

  • rockonxox
    Hot isn't necessarily spooky or nuts or anything like that. You CAN have a hot and spooky horse... but I think hot is its own individual descriptor. A hot horse, to me, is one that is always on and usually quite sensitive to their rider (for worse or for better). They have a lot of go go go to them and are absolutely not a kick ride. Hot also does not mean, necessarily, that they are strong. Many hot horses need a lighter vs heavier hand and/or seat. If you aren't a confident ride and aren't comfortable riding a horse with a good self propelled motor that can sometimes get a little strung out and needs a reminder to tone it down at times that will notice everything you do as a rider (from shifting the balance in your heels to sitting deeper with your seat etc) then don't buy a hot one!

    Honestly, if there is a particular horse you are interested in just ask the owner what their quirks are.

    Leave a comment:

  • beowulf
    It depends on who is using the term, IMHO.

    A "hot" Q/TB might not be the same as a "hot" WB.

    In my terms, I classify a hot horse as a horse that is very forward thinking and more of a mental ride.

    Too often "hot" can mean "difficult", which I think tends to have roots in physical discomfort.

    Generally, if I see "hot" in an advertisement I assume undiagnosed problem. This might not always be the case for all horses - some lines are genuinely a handful and some breeds have a bit more octane than others.. but I've looked at enough horses that had 'hot' in their advertisement to realize it's normally a key-word for something else besides basic temperament.

    But... to give you an example of how it's important to take "hot" with a grain of salt..
    I recently attempted to lease out my quiet/sane BN-N TB gelding during my surgery lay-up. I put an ad out that had 2 videos of him, both which accurately depicted how he is to ride: sensible, quiet, but needs a good and quiet hand *mentioned in the ad.

    I had a HJ trainer who wanted him for her lesson student and possible string. It sounded like the perfect match - I have always had people joke I am wasting his talent as an eventer and that he wants to be a hunter-jumper.. HJ trainer came out with her student, tried him, and he was not being his normal quiet self. I noticed she was being really handsy, and didn't love it but didn't say anything. He was tense and rushing through the aids. After a few laps where he was really tense and not settling, I notice she was riding him in long-neck spurs! I don't know how I didn't realize before, but I guess I was too preoccupied filling student in on what he was like.. anyway, she didn't even canter him. She pulled him up, got off, handed me the reins and said "this horse is way too hot to be a hunter"

    I found a 15 y/o HJer that is riding him now and doing a wonderful job with him.

    Leave a comment:

  • Scribbler
    Yes, I would also say that it is a very forward horse that wants to move, and may get snorty and prancy if denied that movement.

    But honestly like every descriptor in the horse world, "hot" can mean many things. I can see someone calling a horse "hot" as just forward and sensitive, and I can also see someone calling a horse hot that has some behavior problems as well. You honestly won't know until you go and watch the owner ride first, and then try the horse.

    Also a hot horse, especially a young one, ridden by a cautious or nervous or handsy rider, will absolutely develop behavior problems from frustration. If he can't go forward he may decide he needs to go sideways, or up in the air.

    Some riders have a calming effect on horses, but are still comfortable using minimal aids and allowing for a little zoom. Others have an exciting effect on horses (and may love to get hot horses very hot). Others may get anxious when they feel out of control and get heavy with the aids. This last category of rider should probably stay away from hot horses.

    That said, the Arabians I have seen are "hot" but they tend to express it as prancy and fancy, as opposed to the hot OTTB that want to express it by running a mile at top speed no matter what is in the way. The working QH I have seen get really hot doing their job, but then they can stand and wait for the next cue or cow, in a way that few hot Arabs or OTTB could manage. I think harness horses are bred to be hot in harness, meaning they want to do a big trot forward, but that doesn't necessarily mean spooky.

    Leave a comment:

  • 4LeafCloverFarm
    To me, "hot" is the exact opposite of a kick ride. Nothing to do with crazy or spooky.

    Leave a comment:

  • Bluey
    Originally posted by BunnyHugger View Post
    I've been doing some virtual horse shopping (I'm not in the position to get another one until late fall). I was researching Dutch Harness horses, being taken by their flashy movement in sales listings. Many people described them as very hot. That got me to thinking... what exactly is "hot"? Is it another word for "spooky"? Not sane?
    Often, ads will use "sensitive and forward" in conjunction with hot so it would seem those are two distinct characteristics. I'm interested in sensitive and forward, but not up for "crazy".
    I'm really interested in hearing others' interpretation of hot.
    A hot horse may be one with a fever, a temperature of over 102F.

    The "hot" horses I have known or ridden were considered hot because as the rider made more demands of them, they became more alert and reactive.
    Some times that is good, means a horse that will turn it on and have more energy as you go.
    Some times, when that means inconsistent performer by that extra energy being hard to channel or the horse becoming distracted or worried by the pressure, not so good.

    One example, a young reining horse just learning and as it catches on it starts anticipating and overworking, that tends to be considered a hot horse.
    In the hands of a pro, that horse really will shine, but it won't become easily an amateur or junior horse, not unless it changes as it matures and gains experience.
    Some never do, they stay very sharp, "hot" all their lives.

    Leave a comment: