I've asked this question before. With my guy it's easy to figure out if he's ready for real work. In warm-up he will not make any sound until he is loose and relaxed. Sometimes at shows he never "truffles". (I like that term)
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I usually refer to my boy's snorts as the "whuffles".
He is OTTB, and now he mainly does it when we're either outside, or when he's fresh.
He is SUCH a loud horse; my husband cracks up every time he watches me ride, because Tiki whuffles in time to both his trot and his canter. It is adorable; I love it.
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I knew a mare who did this at the canter, and it was especially pronounced o/f.
I always thought it was because she was tense and worried... at least in my eyes it made her seem really anxious...
Is there some other noise that some people are referring to? Does anyone have a video?
I just can't imagine anyone thinking this little mare was making a pleasant/cute sound...
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Here's a video which has the sound I'm referring to (and no, not the heavy breathing from my cameraman ~40 sec from booking it to catch all of the XCOriginally posted by Lazy Palomino Hunter View PostIs there some other noise that some people are referring to? Does anyone have a video?
). You can hear it best during the first half of the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvd8d3jg9Tk
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LPH - are you possibly thinking of "roaring" which is from the larynx - surgery can fix it, usually.
A horse with a long stride (i.e. TB) will be more economical in his respiration than say a horse with a shorter galloping stride (i.e. Arab) over long distances.Proud member of People Who Hate to Kill Wildlife clique
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I love that noise too! mg, your horse is having a blast!Originally posted by mg View PostHere's a video which has the sound I'm referring to (and no, not the heavy breathing from my cameraman ~40 sec from booking it to catch all of the XC
). You can hear it best during the first half of the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvd8d3jg9Tk~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Well, the noise in the video is the noise I was talking about. But the horse in the video doesn't look distraught-- and the breathing seems largely related to the fact that he's galloping XC.Originally posted by Foxtrot's View PostLPH - are you possibly thinking of "roaring" which is from the larynx - surgery can fix it, usually.
Maybe my perspective might be skewed by context. The video shows a horse breathing hard because he's working hard. The mare in question, however, would breathe that way after about 3 strides at the canter. Basically it happened even at times when she shouldn't have been winded. She always looked a little concerned, too, so maybe the effect was additive.
Just for the sake of the discussion and comparison, does anyone have a video of a horse actually roaring? I'm definitely familiar with it in concept, but I've never actually heard a roarer.
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Well my guy (the one in the video) sounds that way every time he canters...even during dressage. He does it every single time he canters, starting with the very first stride, so I don't think it's so much an effect of working hard as it's just something he does while cantering and galloping.Originally posted by Lazy Palomino Hunter View PostWell, the noise in the video is the noise I was talking about. But the horse in the video doesn't look distraught-- and the breathing seems largely related to the fact that he's galloping XC.
Maybe my perspective might be skewed by context. The video shows a horse breathing hard because he's working hard. The mare in question, however, would breathe that way after about 3 strides at the canter. Basically it happened even at times when she shouldn't have been winded. She always looked a little concerned, too, so maybe the effect was additive.
Adelita- Thanks! XC is totally his element
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Weird, my horse makes the noise at canter and sometimes at the trot once he's relaxed. Now my Arab/ASB will snort loudly at every stride/every gait when he's worried. And his whole body moves with the exhale. It's not pleasant .Originally posted by Lazy Palomino Hunter View PostI knew a mare who did this at the canter, and it was especially pronounced o/f.
I always thought it was because she was tense and worried... at least in my eyes it made her seem really anxious...
Is there some other noise that some people are referring to? Does anyone have a video?
I just can't imagine anyone thinking this little mare was making a pleasant/cute sound...
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My mare does it ALL of the time in ALL gaits, especially when happy and relaxed. She does it so much I don't notice. A friend pointed out she sounds like a choo choo train. She does it most at the trot and walking, especially when super relaxed after having been standing for awhile--snort, snort, snort.
I think snort, choo choo, chuff, snuffles, or whatever are always a good sign--lungs are open and working and things are relaxed.
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I was taught that those horses who "truffle" [love that word!] are athletes who know how to breathe properly for hard work.Visit Sonesta Farms website at www.sonestafarms.com or our FaceBook page at www.facebook.com/sonestafarms. Also showing & breeding Cavalier King Charles Spaniels.
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I've also heard that it is associated with athletic horses, maybe because many thoroughbreds do it. I like the sound too, kind of rhythmic and relaxing. we had a young TB mare who did it every stride at the canter. She was not a wound up or hot horse at all. She was very soft and quiet and turned into a great children's hunter.
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It's like riding a whoopie cushion.
Boomer is so bad that I have to tell my clinicians to yell extra loud if they want me to hear them.
My mother loves the noise because she always knows where I am on the XC course (in the woods) and she can tell when he's jumping because the noise stops.
In the dressage arena it's a dead give-away if you have rhythm issues during the canter.http://kaboomeventing.com/
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I love watching floppy ears.Originally posted by Auventera Two View PostSweets does it when she's happy and relaxed in the canter or gallop. It's accompanied by the loose floppy ears, high tail carriage, and GREAT great rides. When she's tense or nervous, everything feels tight and the rhythmic snort is not there.
Mir has long big ears to match her long legs... and they flop when she is happy and relaxed.
If i'm posting on Coth, it's either raining so I can't ride or it's night time and I can't sleep.
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I always conceptualized it as puffing... hence my intense desire to have a little kid take my old guy into short stirrup one day so he can show with the name "Puff the Magic Dragon"
It's odd for me to think of it as a "relaxed" thing, or even from the "athletic" angle, because my older guy who does it has a heart of gold and is honest as the day is long, but his preferred way of going is, well, like a scary lower-level local jumper (fast, falling in on turns, jumping from anywhere). It's taken a lot of work to get him to be even moderately competitive in the local hunters, and even then it's a 50/50 thing from day to day. He sure is fun, though... makes me wish I was 50-70 lbs lighter so I could get back on him.
And he puffs with every stride. I think it's endearing. Maybe he really is relaxed, even if he isn't fitting the "hunter mold" as he books it around a ring with his slightly short stride.
He also has jet-gas propulsion from time to time, but that's a different story :P
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