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I feel sorry for people who sell good horses - and I love my coaches.

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  • I feel sorry for people who sell good horses - and I love my coaches.

    For those who don’t know, I bit the bullet in January, and following my first ride back after knee replacement, on a 16.3hh TB, I bought him!

    I bought him because he made me smile, I love that walk I felt safe, HUGE for this nervous older unfit rider. I paid more for him than I have ever spent, because of the safety factor, and his ability, he has shown Second Level Dressage with respectable scores. I bought him because he is a known quantity, he has been at the barn for years.I had visions of him and I dancing at 2nd this year......


    WRONG


    I forgot to factor in that though I was back in the saddle, I was by no means fit.

    Didn’t realize that for 6 weeks we would be in Arctic weather here, to cold to do much of anything, apart from survive.

    Then there was the unexpected and unwelcome flu, that turned into a chest infection that laid me up for another month!

    So this is where the story begins, took Chuck to a show a few weeks back, no trainer support, and I sucked big time. Was riding at home and things were going down hill, I’m getting so depressed, now I can’t even get a decent trot from my big investment!

    Booked a lesson, told coach what was going wrong, and how I thought we should fix it. Had it explained that I was talking out my butt, the only way to fix it was to recreate the problem, and then work through it...so we did. Who knew that I have a habit of kicking my inside hand out to the side when I shorten my reins? Not me, until it was mentioned, now I’m riding round “shorten your reins” me “feck did it again” no idea when that started....

    Then onto trot work, and WOW, more outside rein, less inside rein, more subtle in the asking, oh and add leg when he dives, within 20 minutes we had the nicest trot work we have had together. The thing that really came home to me, I knew the issue was mainly me, so a lesson would help. How many perfectly nice horses are bought by people who either can’t accept that they need help, or won’t ask for it. I knew this horse for long enough to know that WE had an issue, not that he was a bad horse that they had palmed off on me. I can so see how some of the “I was sold a badly trained horse” stories come from..of course doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen...but honest sellers can easily be thrown under the bus.

    "He's not even a good pathological liar." Mara

    "You're just a very desperate troll, and not even a good one. You're like middle-school troll at best. Like a goblin, not even a troll." et_fig

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    Aren't light bulb moments on your horse awesome? Best feeling in the world. So happy for you and Chuck.
    ~~ How do you catch a loose horse? Make a noise like a carrot! - British Cavalry joke ~~

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      Originally posted by 4LeafCloverFarm View Post
      Aren't light bulb moments on your horse awesome? Best feeling in the world. So happy for you and Chuck.
      Lol, while I know that getting into a pulling match is never the answer, I was just lost for a moment how to cure it. Just having someone there to say “let go” just helped.
      "He's not even a good pathological liar." Mara

      "You're just a very desperate troll, and not even a good one. You're like middle-school troll at best. Like a goblin, not even a troll." et_fig

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      • #4
        I am glad your situation was one that could be fixed in one lesson. Some issues are not that way and good people sell good horses for a variety of reasons where it may not be the right rider at the right time.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by TWH Girl View Post
          I am glad your situation was one that could be fixed in one lesson. Some issues are not that way and good people sell good horses for a variety of reasons where it may not be the right rider at the right time.
          You are comparing apples to oranges, so while I agree with you, she did clarify she didn't mean All Horses Who Get Sold.

          She bought a horse she knew, one with a solid past and ample training and mileage. That does not describe the horse that many people purchase...young, sketchy history, unknown mileage, or sweet with a pretty tail.

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          • #6
            I would say that any newbie or returning rider, or rider with any skill or physical limits (in other words, almost all of us lower level especially older adult ammies) is going to get into trouble with a new horse if they don't have trainer eyes on the ground for the first six months, and regular lessons.

            And yes, it can be as seemingly minor as bad hand or bad leg position, that gets the horse going wrong, or unbalances the rider.

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              Originally posted by TMares View Post

              You are comparing apples to oranges, so while I agree with you, she did clarify she didn't mean All Horses Who Get Sold.

              She bought a horse she knew, one with a solid past and ample training and mileage. That does not describe the horse that many people purchase...young, sketchy history, unknown mileage, or sweet with a pretty tail.
              Thats exactly it, and although I know this horse, I hadn’t realized how much he would highlight my lack of skills. He is safe, and if you don’t ask anything of him will plod around all day, seriously my happy place is just to get on, wander around holding the buckle end, grinning like an idiot. Once you start asking questions he has a few well rehearsed evasions, that are easily overcome, but you need to know how to fix. A better rider than me would not think twice, and would fix it, I still have to think, then fix, and then it maybe too late.



              It just brought it home so clearly that just sometimes you HAVE been sold a good horse, the right horse, and mud slinging about the person you bought it from because things are going sour, can be unfair.
              "He's not even a good pathological liar." Mara

              "You're just a very desperate troll, and not even a good one. You're like middle-school troll at best. Like a goblin, not even a troll." et_fig

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              • #8
                I wish the person who bought my horse from me had your sense! But no, she sold him and now I have no idea where he is.....
                \"it\'s not what you win, but who you beat\"
                Member of Acrylic Nail,Horseless Riders,Mommies, and Pennsylvania Cliques!

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                • #9
                  I had a similar light bulb moment when I changed barns. My horse is the rock solid and steady type. He will safely pack around a 5 year old little girl. He's safe, safe, safe. I changed barns. In two weeks he was a completely different animal. Jiggy, looky, and not my horse. Turns out he had ulcers. After treatment he turned back into the horse everyone loves.

                  Usually when a former owner claims a horse has 'never done that before', I take it with a grain of salt. Now I can see how easily this could happen. Had I bought him and didn't know his history, I would have sworn he was drugged at the previous barn and the sellers knowingly sold me a crazy horse.

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                  • #10
                    So glad to see how you're coping with your obstacles! Truly indeed, you should accept some "bad sides" of your friend and after good long lasting work together turning them into good ones! Good luck!

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                    • #11
                      My trainer is fond of saying “dressage is not a DIY sport.” I agree with her 100%! Glad you and Chuck are back on track.

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                      • #12
                        I never thought I liked the sensitive type that needed a lot of hand-holding until I got to my current barn. It turns out I'm actually a great fit for horses like this, I just needed some instruction and for my confidence levels to be improved. And that's how I got my newest acquisition.

                        I also learned that I don't like show environments and am more content doing trail riding. We may have some competitive trail or endurance in our future, or we may not. That's okay.

                        The right trainer makes all the difference. You have a good horse there, if he showed up through second level. It sounds like you have the right supports in place too. You'll get there. And if your goals change in the meantime, that's okay too! Just go with it.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BigMama1 View Post
                          My trainer is fond of saying “dressage is not a DIY sport.” I agree with her 100%! .
                          Truer words were never spoken!

                          I'd be lost without my trainer. Seriously.

                          And don't forget you have to find the right trainer. I had the wrong trainer for two years . . . I'm blessed to have finally found the right one - we had to basically start over. That was 2.5 years ago and we're finally making some really good progress (knock on wood). My horse is not an easy ride (he's the nervous, sensitive type) not exactly the best ride for an AA, but I love him to pieces and we're both finally learning how to relax and he's finally starting to use himself correctly. Never could have gotten there without weekly lessons and "homework". I don't care how long it takes, I just want to get it right this time . . . hey, we're not going to the Olympics!

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                          • #14
                            I agree the right trainer is critical.

                            I'm feeling particularly sentimental about this topic because I'm just glowing with joy over what still feels like a second chance with my horse. She's a homebred and for the first five years of her life, we were unstoppable. I started her myself and brought her along to the point where we were jumping small courses at shows. The world was our oyster and I was positive we were going to make it to the big leagues. Then the sh*t started.

                            To try to keep this concise, here's the Cliffs Notes: an injury temporarily stopped my riding and left me with some bad habits; horse developed all sorts of behavioral issues that weren't resolved even with pro training. All of this was happening at a time in my life with a lot of unrelated personal stress. The end result was that I developed some deep-seated fear issues and basically stopped riding. It was a frustrating and depressing period and the effects lasted about five years.

                            It took forever, but we serendipitously found a trainer who completely changed our lives in a short period of time. Even though I only got to work with her for a few months, I feel like I am forever indebted to this woman because she broke the cycle. I'm getting gushy because I've been on a riding high this month. Yesterday we went XC schooling at a new facility. The day before we were nailing our canter transitions in our dressage lesson. Over the weekend, my horse was carting around my 5 year old nephew like precious cargo for his first ever ride. The weekend before, we were galloping around Pimlico Race Course with nearly 200 other riders. There was a time when any one of those things seemed impossible with this horse. I was scared to sell her or give her away for fear she'd kill someone and/or earn herself a trip to Mexico. All I wanted was for the horse I raised to be a productive member of equine society. I think we reached that goal!
                            Don't fall for a girl who fell for a horse just to be number two in her world... ~EFO

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                            • #15
                              Texarkana Wow! What a nice update, congrats!
                              "i'm a slow learner, it's true."

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                              • #16
                                Yep, I switched trainers and now I have a consistent, good horse. Comes from simple fixes, but correct ones.

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