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Would you buy a horse who had a sarcoid once?

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  • Would you buy a horse who had a sarcoid once?

    Would you buy a horse who had a sarcoid that had been removed, and not recurred yet (6 months later)?

    I have no experience w sarcoids, but looking at a sale horse who had one. Awaiting word from my vet...
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    Yes, following a thorough PPE, and at a low price
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    Nope, no way
    23.53%
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    Maybe - tell me why below
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    My Arab gelding had sarcoids and they would just keep coming back. He ended up with one in his girth area that ended his riding days for a while. Then they all just disappeared.

    He had one on his chest and and I think the blanket buckle irritated it enough over a few year's time that his immune response was triggered. And that is why they all vanished.

    But until then it was rough. They would break open. I just wouldn't do that again, knowing what I know now. They can grow so randomly, and they are so hard to treat.
    Sheilah

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    • #3
      Unless it was something crazy bad, it wouldn't even come into my decision making for buying a horse that is otherwise suitable for what I want. IOW, there isn't an answer in the poll for me - d) Just plain yes.

      Pending a vet check looking for other things, of course, but the sarcoid as you've described wouldn't come into play for me at all.

      And I disagree with Sheilah above. They are not "so hard" to treat. A normal sarcoid is easily gotten rid of with Xxterra or one of a couple of other treatments.
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      • #4
        We had a horse with a growing sarcoid on it's elbow. We had it lasered removed, never came back.

        So where was it on this horse?
        The cue card kid just held up an empty cue card. For a minute there I thought I had lost my sense of humor. --- Red Skelton

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          #5
          Originally posted by pony grandma View Post
          We had a horse with a growing sarcoid on it's elbow. We had it lasered removed, never came back.

          So where was it on this horse?
          Up by the sheath... removed, came back quickly, removed under general.... no sign since...

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          • #6
            I would have no reservations about buying a horse with sarcoids unless their location was interfering with the saddle or the eye. I had a horse who developed sarcoids below one eye and on the inside of both front legs above the knees. The first time I treated with Xxterra they did not go away. Eventually they got much bigger (think 3 golf balls piled on a leg) so I treated with Xxterra again, but using a more aggressive protocol. It took a while, using multiple containers of Xxterra, but they eventually disappeared completely and the hair even grew back. No recurrence.

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            • #7
              Agree with posters above, a sarcoid that was removed and hasn't grown back wouldn't deter me from making a purchase.

              As a seller, If the sarcoid was removed and it hadn't grown back, I wouldn't see the need to make any concessions on price.

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              • #8
                Once had two horses with sarcoids that boarded with me. One had had one grow close to the eye. It was more or less gone with a small area of irregularity remaining. Honestly never saw anything on the other for the 2 or so years they were in my care. I was told they were saddle broke but were considered a loss due to the sarcoids and hadn't been worked in years. They were nice looking Westphalians. Seemed like an epic waste to me. The owner had suffered a bad riding accident and had several well bred horses that they weren't able to do much with and didn't want to sell along.

                Short answer: no. I wouldn't be put off an otherwise good horse by sarcoids.

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                • #9
                  Im in PNWjumpers boat.
                  it wouldnt even come into the equation. Esp removed. In fact im surprised it was even mentioned if its no longer there.

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                  • #10
                    OP: That situation would not especially concern me.

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                    • #11
                      I wouldn't expect a discount because a horse once had a sarcoid, so D.
                      Let me apologize in advance.

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                      • #12
                        If this is the biggest issue the horse has, I think you are in there like swimwear. Close the deal and start enjoying your new horse!

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by bip View Post
                          ...you are in there like swimwear.
                          Duly added to "must use phrases" list

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by PNWjumper View Post
                            Unless it was something crazy bad, it wouldn't even come into my decision making for buying a horse that is otherwise suitable for what I want. IOW, there isn't an answer in the poll for me - d) Just plain yes.

                            Pending a vet check looking for other things, of course, but the sarcoid as you've described wouldn't come into play for me at all.
                            I agree with this.

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                            • #15
                              For what it's worth, my horse had a sarcoid on his face right under his left eye when he was 8 or 9. We had it frozen off with liquid nitrogen. Two treatments and it has not come back.....nor has he developed any others on the rest of his body. He is 30 this year.

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                              • #16
                                I knew a horse who had one sarcoid on her jaw. They tried repeatedly to remove it, and every time it just grew and multiplied. A few years down the line they were all over her face, a few on her neck, and chest. She lived in bandages, and they tried every specialist they could find. No expense was spared, but they couldn't get rid of them, or even stop them from growing.

                                I was a teenager at the time, and only a casual barn worker there, so I don't remember more details about the veterinary work that went on. They might have eventually figured out the cause (even if they couldn't treat it), and it was definitely an exceptional outlier to most people's experiences with sarcoids. But I will never ever forget the smell that came off that horse, and don't think I could consider a horse with one as a result.

                                I actually really wish I had learned what happened, I think the vet ended up offering to do a necroposy because they too were so curious. (And yes, the horse was eventually put down as a direct result, probably 4 or 5 years after they started to unsuccessfully treat the first one).

                                Not to frighten you off, lots of horses have them and have no problems...but I will forever be haunted by that smell

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                                • #17
                                  I've had two horses with one sarcoid each. One on ear - other on chest. Both were removed surgically and neither horse had a recurrence. So I would not hesitate based on my statistical sample of two.

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                                  • #18
                                    I would trust my vet's opinion on the risk of the sarcoid and I would also ask my insurance company if this would affect insurance. Those would help factor into my decision making. Beyond that, it wouldn't really bother me.

                                    I have had two horses with sarcoids, but they were both resolved easily (surgically removed). A clients is having less luck with her horse: he had one removed but it has returned, and is starting another. About 20 years ago, a friend had a horse that was missing about 25% of his hair due to sacrcoids….he was still a very competitive hunter and I don't recall it being an issue other than aesthetics.
                                    Freeing worms from cans everywhere!

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                                    • #19
                                      I just bought a two year old that has what I think is a sarcoid above his knee. I bought him without a vet check because he was cheap and he basically walked into my arms when I met him. He's incredibly furry and I found the bump after the fact. He's extremely sweet and I'm hoping this won't cause major problems for him. Planning to have a vet out, but this thread is making me feel a little easier!

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Jax View Post
                                        I knew a horse who had one sarcoid on her jaw. They tried repeatedly to remove it, and every time it just grew and multiplied. A few years down the line they were all over her face, a few on her neck, and chest. She lived in bandages, and they tried every specialist they could find. No expense was spared, but they couldn't get rid of them, or even stop them from growing.

                                        I was a teenager at the time, and only a casual barn worker there, so I don't remember more details about the veterinary work that went on. They might have eventually figured out the cause (even if they couldn't treat it), and it was definitely an exceptional outlier to most people's experiences with sarcoids. But I will never ever forget the smell that came off that horse, and don't think I could consider a horse with one as a result.

                                        I actually really wish I had learned what happened, I think the vet ended up offering to do a necroposy because they too were so curious. (And yes, the horse was eventually put down as a direct result, probably 4 or 5 years after they started to unsuccessfully treat the first one).

                                        Not to frighten you off, lots of horses have them and have no problems...but I will forever be haunted by that smell
                                        I had a horse with a sarcoid that was sucessfully treated. He didn't smell any different than any other horse. I wonder if it was misdiagnosed or if she had another undiagnosed condition that caused the smell.
                                        Oh, well, clearly you're not thoroughly indoctrinated to COTH yet, because finger pointing and drawing conclusions are the cornerstones of this great online community. (Tidy Rabbit)

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