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Hurricane Florence—info, resources, etc.

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  • #41
    Jingles for ALL ....

    Be prepared
    Be safe
    Be careful

    Safe travels if evacuating ...

    JINGLES !
    Zu Zu Bailey " IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE ! "

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    • #42
      Not sure if this has been posted, but for anyone with pets here is an up to date pet-safe evacuation shelter list.

      https://www.bringfido.com/hurricane/

      Stay safe everyone!

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      • #43
        They're talking about a 20 plus foot' storm surge if this thing hits land as a cat 4.....if it hits at high tide its gonna be ugly

        https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/Ex...torm-Carolinas

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        • #44
          Originally posted by J-Lu View Post
          When I lived in Houston, a friend and I tried to flee from a hurricane with our horses, and voted to turn around when we were slightly above a half-tank of gas. Don't underestimate common evacuation routes-we turned around and went home due to the traffic.
          I was just thinking about that too!! What a nightmare. Do you remember how it felt leaving F and A at the barn after all, thinking we might never see them again?

          Jingles for all in the path of this storm.
          Building and Managing the Small Horse Farm: http://thesmallhorsefarm.blogspot.com

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          • #45
            Oh my! This sounds so worrisome. We live about as far away - on the opposite side of the continent - as we can get and a stiff breeze is uncommon.

            I see on tv that some people are intending to stay, despite evacuation orders and I keep imagining that if they need to get out they will have left it too late.

            I looked up Tryon - seems they do not seem so worried, but surely they will not escape the torrential rain? I will keep an eye on Eventing Nation. Canada is drawn first to go - they will not know how it rides, but the first horses out will not ave to contend with ruined footing - by the time the last rider on the last horse (Switzerland?) goes, it may be a mess.....just speculating since I've never encountered anything like this.

            Tell me how you all are doing if you are in the region - thanks - sending thoughts.
            Proud member of People Who Hate to Kill Wildlife clique

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Foxtrot's View Post

              I see on tv that some people are intending to stay, despite evacuation orders and I keep imagining that if they need to get out they will have left it too late.

              .
              In New Orleans after Katrina I escorted a woman to her home to show her where her husband's body was found, he and a neighbor both died... she wanted to see for herself, her comment was I told him to not stay

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              • #47
                Originally posted by clanter View Post

                In New Orleans after Katrina I escorted a woman to her home to show her where her husband's body was found, he and a neighbor both died... she wanted to see for herself, her comment was I told him to not stay
                Ugh, don’t tell me this. My mom won’t leave her barrier island. Nothing more I can do to talk sense into her.

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                • #48
                  I think that the NOAA National Hurricane Center is an excellent website. No commercial interest, just science.
                  https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by fordtraktor View Post

                    Ugh, don’t tell me this. My mom won’t leave her barrier island. Nothing more I can do to talk sense into her.
                    and this woman said her husband always stayed and partied ... he was not expecting the water to go over the top of the house

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                    • #50
                      The latest from NOAA. If you don't want to read it all, scroll down to "Key Messages". https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refres.../111458.shtml?

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                      • #51
                        Satellite view; https://cdn.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOE.../1800x1080.jpg

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                        • #52
                          Originally posted by clanter View Post

                          and this woman said her husband always stayed and partied ... he was not expecting the water to go over the top of the house
                          No one expects it until it happens to them and then it is too late. She is being ridiculous and has so many inland offers of shelter. Nope, she doesn’t want to leave because she is worried it will take a while to get back on the island if she goes. To me that is a good reason not to be there during the storm but far be it from me to apply reason to this situation....

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                          • #53
                            Forecast track as of 2pm (scroll down a tiny bit) https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at...?cone#contents

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                            • #54
                              The Weather Channel crawls says Charlotte Motor Speedway is open for evacuees. NASCAR always steps up for shelter for those who have to leave. Xfinity (Comcast) opened their wi-fi hotspots in the entire area that could be affected.

                              Anyone who is so foolish to stay behind should have axes, and in a pinch, shotguns, so you can blast a hole in the roof to get out when the flood waters trap you in the attic. They should also write their name, and contact information on their body with a sharpie, so they can be identified easier. Tell anyone staying behind that, and if it changes one mind, that is something.

                              I think any parent that keeps a kid with them in a mandatory evacuation area should get criminal charges for what happens to their children. I still remember before Katrina, the people being interviewed and saying the usual, we've been through this before and my family is riding it out. ANd right there with them were kids. How many died?

                              I used to work at Army helicopter central, and the Katrina stories were horrible by crews in the years after Katrina. I can't even discuss them, because people were telling me because they couldn't keep that burden to themselves, and I promised not to tell specifics.

                              There are convoys of electrical company trucks already heading to the impact area, they always do. If you are going to leave, leave now. Waiting can get you stuck in a traffic jam. If leaving now means you can't board up, leave anyway. Things can be replaced, but lives can't.

                              If you need somewhere to go, announce it on here, and I'm sure you will have a place for you and your animals.
                              Last edited by JanM; Sep. 11, 2018, 09:03 PM.
                              You can't fix stupid-Ron White

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                              • #55
                                You can get local forecasts here, just type the location or move your cursor over the area and click;https://www.weather.gov/

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                                • #56
                                  Originally posted by JanM View Post
                                  The Weather Channel crawls says Charlotte Motor Speedway is open for evacuees. NASCAR always steps up for shelter for those who have to leave. Xfinity (Comcast) opened their wi-fi hotspots in the entire area that could be affected.

                                  Anyone who is so foolish to stay behind should have axes, and in a pinch, shotguns, so you can blast a hole in the roof to get out when the flood waters trap you in the attic. They should also write their name, and contact information on their body with a sharpie, so they can be identified easier. Tell anyone staying behind that, and if it changes one mine, that is something.

                                  I think any parent that keeps a kid with them in a mandatory evacuation area should get criminal charges for what happens to their children. I still remember before Katrina, the people being interviewed and saying the usual, we've been through this before and my family is riding it out. How many died?

                                  I used to work at Army helicopter central, and the Katrina stories were horrible by crews in the years after Katrina. I can't even discuss them, because people were telling me because they couldn't keep that burden to themselves, and I promised not to tell specifics.

                                  I'm sure the convoys of electrical company trucks are already heading to the impact area, they always do. If you are going to leave, leave now. Waiting can get you stuck in a traffic jam. If leaving now means you can't board up, leave anyway. Things can be replaced, by lives can't.

                                  If you need somewhere to go, announce it on here, and I'm sure you will have a place for you and your animals.
                                  This. Mandatory evacuation areas have no fire, ambulance, or police crews to help you. Get out NOW. And if insisting on staying, write your information on your arm in sharpie. This is a serious storm and I think it is going to have devastating consequences, even much further inland than some seem to think. Flooding wise!

                                  Do people in these areas just not have experience with hurricanes? I watched several people being interviewed on the news and they were ho hum, no big deal, just another day. This is a massive, powerful storm. Make arrangements and get out now if you are in the direct path of this storm.

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                                  • #57
                                    There is a woman in Florida who stayed behind with her sick mother, and other family during the mandatory Irma evacuations. The woman's mother died, and she wants to sue because first responders wouldn't come out in hurricane conditions, during a mandatory evacuation, to take her mother to the hospital. What part of mandatory didn't she understand? And when the authorities say they aren't coming out in a hurricane they're not kidding. She also said they should have sent a helicopter to evacuate her mother and the rest of her family during the height of the storm.

                                    My signature line says my opinion of all of this.

                                    scemd.org for SC evacuation maps and information
                                    ncdps.gov for NC
                                    You can't fix stupid-Ron White

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                                    • #58
                                      regarding storm surge ... I worked the area south of New Orleans after Katrina down to Venice, around Boothville or Empire hung in tree about twenty feet off the ground was the body of a horse, it stayed there all the months I was up and down that road .... and that area was not the worst for storm surge

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                                      • #59
                                        pAin't_Misbehavin', I really struggled last night when I was at the barn, thinking about whether my pony should go in or stay out. I am sticking with my decision to have him in the barn. He has never been in a hurricane as far as I know, and I'm afraid he would panic and hurt himself badly, or get hit by debris. Also, though the pasture there isn't likely to flood too deep, still, he's short. I would never forgive myself if he drowned in his pasture. He might still panic in a stall, but would have less opportunity of hurting himself. The barn is block halfway up, and I think the chance of it being damaged enough to endanger him is less than the chance of him being injured outside. I must confess, I cried on him a little last night. I hope he will be OK, and all the humans and animals there as well.

                                        I'm not too worried for us, at least if the track stays north of us. We are 4-5 miles inland and we are 35 feet above sea level. We are not in an evacuation zone. We are about as prepared as we can be. I did underestimate how quickly gas lines would form (I'll know better next time), but actually was able to pull right up to the pump at a gas station coming back from the barn last night, and my husband went out early this morning to the same place I used last night, and had the same experience. We knew we had quite a bit of gas in the boat tanks that we could have used if we hadn't been able to get gas, but now both cars and the boat tanks are full. Propane canisters are topped up.

                                        Best of luck to everyone in the path of the storm!

                                        Rebecca

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                                        • #60
                                          Jim Cantore, the Weather Channels prophet of doom, landed in Wilmington, NC today. Forecast is now Cat 3 Friday afternoon at Wilmington, and the model is now tracking the inland track is much more west, and expected to stall out on the coastline from Friday to Saturday, and the main hurricane is expected to wreck it's way down to SC by Sunday. They are also now predicting up to 30" in the Wilmington area.
                                          You can't fix stupid-Ron White

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