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  • #61
    Oh gosh, how disappointing. I’m adding my jingles for you, too!

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    • #62
      What a disappointment, but glad you were made aware of all the problems before you bought. Jingling that you find the perfect farm out there for you!

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      • #63
        I know you'll find the right place, at the right time. Better to lose out than get stuck with a money pit.
        You can't fix stupid-Ron White

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          #64
          How about 3.5 acres with an almost new manufactured home and an almost new 60 x 100 indoor arena for a whole lot less money. Good possibility for purchasing extra adjacent acres from neighbor though I'd have to seed for pasture. There are some pens with loafing sheds, nothing special. The good things are having an indoor arena in Iowa and having leftover money to add a stall barn or buy land or both.

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          • #65
            It sounds wonderful.

            If you really want the land next door, then I would firm that up too. It would be awful if you bought the farm, and then found out you can't get the land.
            You can't fix stupid-Ron White

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            • #66
              Originally posted by goinghome View Post
              How about 3.5 acres with an almost new manufactured home and an almost new 60 x 100 indoor arena for a whole lot less money. Good possibility for purchasing extra adjacent acres from neighbor though I'd have to seed for pasture. There are some pens with loafing sheds, nothing special. The good things are having an indoor arena in Iowa and having leftover money to add a stall barn or buy land or both.
              Since Iowa gets about as many tornadoes as the Tornado Alley I lived in for years, is there a storm cellar close to the manufactured home?
              "The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- George Bernard Shaw

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              • #67
                Originally posted by RPM View Post

                Since Iowa gets about as many tornadoes as the Tornado Alley I lived in for years, is there a storm cellar close to the manufactured home?
                That is a valid concern, those are important.

                Then, they really don't cost much, compared with buying that farm.

                They sell all kinds of storm cellars here, some metal tubes, some concrete boxes.
                You can put them under a garage floor, out in the yard by the house, most any place you can dig a hole for them.
                Some you can add to a house as an interior closet.

                A friend that he and his family survived a tornado pulling the roof off their house with them in there, when he build a barn, made the tack room a tornado shelter.

                The simpler shelters cost very little and right now, here, there is a tax break for those also.

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                  #68
                  No way to firm up buying more land until after we move in (if we buy it) and get to know the farmer who owns the land.

                  After we get moved I imagine we'll concentrate on getting ready for Iowa winter. First priority for me being buying a winter coat and warm boots.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by RPM View Post

                    Since Iowa gets about as many tornadoes as the Tornado Alley I lived in for years, is there a storm cellar close to the manufactured home?
                    there is FEMA grant money available to build a residential shelter, Iowa is in the program for potential federal funding for safe rooms, contact your State Emergency Manager and/or State Hazard Mitigation Officer. FEMA provides money the state agency in charge runs the program

                    Last edited by clanter; Sep. 7, 2018, 07:19 AM.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by clanter View Post

                      there is FEMA grant money available to build a residential shelter, Iowa is in the program for potential federal funding for safe rooms, contact your State Emergency Manager and/or State Hazard Mitigation Officer. FEMA provides money the state agency in charge runs the program
                      I will definitely check it out. I'm not averse to having one.

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                      • #71
                        Personally, I like the safe rooms that are attached to the house. I don't want to run out in the back yard to a shelter. Also, if you get a safe room, leave your vital papers, and irreplaceable items in there. You don't want to have to gather items up when a storm front is predicted.
                        You can't fix stupid-Ron White

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by JanM View Post
                          Personally, I like the safe rooms that are attached to the house. I don't want to run out in the back yard to a shelter. Also, if you get a safe room, leave your vital papers, and irreplaceable items in there. You don't want to have to gather items up when a storm front is predicted.
                          Couldn't help but chuckle about gathering up items in the event of a tornado warning because the FIRST thing I'd do is try to round up our elderly cat. She has ESP when it comes to me putting her in her carrier.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by goinghome View Post
                            The karmic university did speak. A 15 acre property, fully-fenced, with two barns (old but well-maintained) that we had looked at back in June became available again. The listing agent who showed my husband the house called us Sunday to let us know. It was a working windmill with an electric pump and rural water. Several pens with pipe fence. Frost-free water hydrants to every barn and pen. The house is a 1920 Craftsman in excellent condition. We made an offer, they accepted. It is more expensive but it doesn't need near as much done to make it horse habitable. Actually there are horses there now.
                            This is a perfect example of what has became our property-buying mantra: Be patient! Each time we have gotten a good house deal we had to wait and wait and wait. Call it karma or God's will, you can't buy the perfect house until it comes on the market- in OP's case, it had to come on the market twice!

                            To quote Sherlock Holmes: "The future is all around us- unready."

                            Congrats! Can't wait for pictures!!!!

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                              #74
                              Looks like the tiny acreage with the indoor arena is the place we're moving to. I'm relieved to tell the truth. The house is small but not too small for two people. I can stick a couple of free-standing stalls in the indoor arena until I can build a separate stall barn. Pasture is minimal but that can be remedied over the next couple of years. Patience is something I need to work on anyway.

                              Starting over from scratch is going to be a challenge. I think I'll do better if I start small and build on what works for me today.

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                              • #75
                                That sounds like the perfect place, congratulations.
                                You can't fix stupid-Ron White

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                                  #76
                                  Thank you JanM. I'm sure I'll find plenty of things I want to change but that would be true of any place I bought.

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                                  • #77
                                    Congrats! Bet you are glad that is over

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                                      #78
                                      Originally posted by WildLittleWren View Post
                                      Congrats! Bet you are glad that is over
                                      I'm not sure I'll believe it's over until I'm actually living there,

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