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  • #61
    Originally posted by saje View Post
    The last thing the place needs is another forum. How about a stickied FAQ topic "Where can I find a rescue horse?" and then provide a list of the best known, most reputable rescues & placement programs out there?
    What about something akin to Missing Horses--let each legit group start A Single Thread about their organization, then lock it so only their designated rep can update or edit. That gives them a place to provide links but prevents it from turning into a flame war/train wreck central. I used to frequent/mod a gaming board and each group that joined was allowed X number of reps--we had to approve each one (ie check up on their websites or boards and make sure they weren't violtating the TOS) before allowing them posting priviliges or access to particular forums. That way only the official representative of the group would have posting rights and they'd know they weren't being misrepresented. Having separate threads for each group would be easier on those who are looking for a certain kind of horse (OTTB, feedlot/auction, rescue with some retraining on it) and might make it easier to figure out geography as well (no use going to a site for a rescue that only adopts to the Carolinas or something if you live in Minnesota, for example.)
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    • #62
      there is no gaurantee that their new system they are working on will even allow feedlot threads. they say they are "working on a solution"....i've heard that before. i'm surethey are working on a solution but that doesnt mean its definately going to happen. For now, there is no feedlot/kill pen threads permitted and that could be for eternity as far as im concerned
      You do realize, don't you, that the Chronicle of the Horse is a business? One that handy dandy chose to provide us this sandbox to play in?

      Business' have one agenda, that is to promote their business, not someone's personal mission. Hence the no advertising rule, which is IMO, very very relaxed and only gets tightened up when members take advantage of the situation.

      You just stated that you've been repeatedly warned and exactly WHY but it doesn't seem to be sinking in.
      "If you would have only one day to live, you should spend at least half of it in the saddle."

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Everythingbutwings View Post
        I would imagine it wasn't the horses in need part, it was the incessant nature of the posting. They've never had a problem with rescue or rehoming threads.
        That sounds about right.
        "It's like a Russian nesting doll of train wrecks."--CaitlinandTheBay

        ...just settin' on the Group W bench.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Everythingbutwings View Post
          You do realize, don't you, that the Chronicle of the Horse is a business? One that handy dandy chose to provide us this sandbox to play in?
          It also isn't a democracy. I might not agree with some of the Mods decisions or like some of the things they do, but I get to come here, read and post for free - and since they provide the area for free to me, I'll live with their rules or go elsewhere.

          Personally, I don't read the 'save them from slaughter' threads. I do everything I can already to help needy horses - those abandoned on the side of the road, starving in stalls and pastures and wandering estray. If I wanted to buy a slaughter-bound horse, I would go to auction and bid against a local killer-buyer. Or I would find a rescue (broker) that works with killer buyers or go to auction.

          I am grateful for the chance to post stuff here for Bluebonnet - and I do my best not to take advantage of those opportunities. I also do my best not to annoy you all to death with postings.
          Visit us at Bluebonnet Equine Humane Society - www.bluebonnetequine.org

          Want to get involved in rescue or start your own? Check out How to Start a Horse Rescue - www.howtostartarescue.com

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          • #65
            Originally posted by farmgirl88 View Post
            .....there is no gaurantee that their new system they are working on will even allow feedlot threads. they say they are "working on a solution"....i've heard that before. i'm surethey are working on a solution but that doesnt mean its definately going to happen. For now, there is no feedlot/kill pen threads permitted and that could be for eternity as far as im concerned
            ........
            no - there is no guarantee - as this is The Chronicle of the Horse bulletin board, not a rescue bulletin board


            but hey, an idea, as a token of appreciation for your 2,600+ posts on the COTHbb perhaps you'd consider becoming a premium member thus giving a teeny tiny modicum of support to the board
            Nothing says "I love you" like a tractor. (Clydejumper)

            The reports states, “Elizabeth reported that she accidently put down this pony, ........, at the show.”

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            • #66
              in the late 1980s I bought a pony from the kill buyer at a local auction -my vet put her age around 12 at the time - she died last year -- we all do what we can do
              Nothing says "I love you" like a tractor. (Clydejumper)

              The reports states, “Elizabeth reported that she accidently put down this pony, ........, at the show.”

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              • #67
                so what am i supposed to do ignored their PM and just keep posting?
                How about...not ignore their request, quit posting what they asked you to quit posting, and also don't post drama-threads about how you're one post away from being banned. That would probably be a decent solution.
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                • #68
                  Whether you notice it or not, OP, what comes through screamingly clearly in this thread is your attitude of entitlement.
                  This forum isn't yours.
                  You have no right to expect the mods to create another division of it which will add to the expense of running it, and I'm sure will add many additional mod headaches.

                  Several people have offered ideas--such as do your own board/blog and link it.

                  And someone also made the interesting observation that, despite you wailing and carrying on about what you feel you're entitled to here, you don't support the board that you want to offer special consideration to your agenda.

                  Maybe you are the one who needs to take a deep breath...
                  "It's like a Russian nesting doll of train wrecks."--CaitlinandTheBay

                  ...just settin' on the Group W bench.

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                  • #69
                    Well,although rescue threads are easy to ignore. I feel I've done my fair share or more in the rescuing horses department. I don';t come to this BB for that. One can just google the topic and find a lot of discussion about it elsewhere.

                    I have found the moderation on this board to be fair and liveable and I really appreciate this place having been here so long and so strong. I appreciate the eclectic and wide ranging nature of the forums.

                    And when mods have asked me to tone things down, I've respected that. If they ever ban me, I am sure they will be justified, but its not like I am trying or anything.

                    I agree with the decision to limit these sorts of threads. I don't need my heart strings pulled by the incessant pleas for help- it isn't as if they are attached to my wallet.

                    Whinging is another thing altogether.
                    "The Threat of Internet Ignorance: ... we are witnessing the rise of an age of equestrian disinformation, one where a trusting public can graze on nonsense packaged to look like fact."-LRG-AF

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                    • #70
                      I had to take a deep breath after reading all this. Dang.
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by farmgirl88 View Post
                        Here is my simple adult solution...if only it would work....if you dont enjoy the threads about kill pen horses...be an adult with control over your will-power...and DONT CLICK ON THEM...what a novel idea!!

                        Like i said before i'm saddened by the decision but there is always a better solution in the future.
                        Quote from the Moderator:

                        "You've been posting a huge amount of threads, often duplicates, with horses at various auctions and our site is not currently set up to accommodate them."

                        The COTH is not a site for rescues to use to further their agenda. It's a general discussion board for the horse crowd to discuss horse issues. It's my opinion that it's okay to talk about horse rescue in general, but to speak of individual horses that need to be rescued immediately (at a price), IS advertising.

                        It's not a matter of readers ignoring your posts. It's possible that you (and others) are hogging a considerable amount of space or bandwidth at the expense of legitimate discussions allowed by the COTH's posting rules.

                        I think it would have been better if you'd come on here and said something to the effect, "The COTH is re-evaluating their policy about advertising horses at kill lots and working to come up with a solution. In the meantime, check these sites for updates."

                        All I heard from you was "the COTH is being mean to me and all these horses will go to slaughter and it's their fault."

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                        • #72
                          Thank you for clarifying what the PM said, Mod 1. So very different than the original post here.



                          To the poster who said, 'just do not open them' - it is tough when there are so many and they keep getting bumped back up to the top of the page. If there was one thread it would be easy to ignore. But there is never just one thread.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by DeeThbd View Post
                            Ditto. Although I understand that COTH is, indeed, a business, I fail to see how helping horses who are in truly desperate straits, who otherwise would slip through the cracks, is "inappropriate".
                            The horses in these threads are, perhaps, that much more real to us for that very reason.
                            Dee
                            Businesses help charities all of the time...famous people use their voice (their talent) to be a spokesperson for their beloved charity. I think it's hogwash to be called "inappropriate"...

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by danceronice View Post
                              What about something akin to Missing Horses--let each legit group start A Single Thread about their organization, then lock it so only their designated rep can update or edit. That gives them a place to provide links but prevents it from turning into a flame war/train wreck central. I used to frequent/mod a gaming board and each group that joined was allowed X number of reps--we had to approve each one (ie check up on their websites or boards and make sure they weren't violtating the TOS) before allowing them posting priviliges or access to particular forums. That way only the official representative of the group would have posting rights and they'd know they weren't being misrepresented. Having separate threads for each group would be easier on those who are looking for a certain kind of horse (OTTB, feedlot/auction, rescue with some retraining on it) and might make it easier to figure out geography as well (no use going to a site for a rescue that only adopts to the Carolinas or something if you live in Minnesota, for example.)
                              This idea is actually one of the ones we've been tossing around.

                              To further clarify, we no longer do short-term bannings. The previous moderation staff may have instituted one for the OP, but since the switchover in December 2007, we utilize a system of warnings--from informal notes informing users of our policies, escalating to official "infractions"--that serve as a record-keeping system. When a user demonstrates continued disregard for our policies as documented by this system, they may be banned permanently.

                              Before this becomes a trainwreck, we're going to close the thread, but folks are welcome to PM me with ideas or input re: the handling of rescue threads, etc. We also may open up a thread to garner input and/or directly contact some users affiliated with charitable organizations for input as we figure out the best approach.

                              Thanks again,
                              Mod 1

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