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  • #41
    Originally posted by Lady Counselor View Post
    ...getting emails like this.
    From my sister-in-law out in the midwest to my husband:

    "Hi
    I've told you about "Jane's" daughter "Annie" who lives out there and is lonely. Well, "Jane" will be emailing you to see if you would let her boys (ages 7 and 9) ride your horses. "Annie" grew up around horses and misses them.. etc etc etc etc."

    Sigh.
    I don't have anything suitable for beginners, I certainly have nothing patient and kind enough for a child, and I really don't fancy getting into the whole family open-can-of-worms my unavoidable refusal will bring.

    Think I'm going to refer them to our local 4H barn and hope for the best. That will be better than having to run the risk of a bad experience.
    then tell them that your insurance doesnt cover kids to ride
    always the way some bids of family think they can have a freebie ride amd you doing them a favour not the other way round
    just tell them straight your would rather not - simple if they want a lesson then go to a riding school not on your competition horses or wahtever or retirees or whatever they are - as they are not a novice ride
    meaning you have to be able to ride to ride them - so the insurance wont cover it unless you have a least 5yrs or 10 yrs of riding under your belt lol
    that should do the trick

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    • #42
      Make sure that if you let someone or their kid ride that proper liability waivers in accordance with your state laws are signed, which I'm sure you already do. My understanding is that even more important is that children's waivers are signed by the custodial parent--in the case of grandparents, a non-custodial parent or other relatives the waiver might be worthless. I'm not a lawyer, but there were some cases where I used to work (we were assigned to the recreation division that included sports teams, sightseeing tours, and ski trips among others) that made the bosses emphasize the legality of waivers only when signed by the legally appropriate person.
      You can't fix stupid-Ron White

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      • #43
        Waviers really help. Especially when your 8 year-olds friends want to come ride. Now, her mare is a horse I can put a beginner on, and DD can ride mine on the flat, but once I tell parents that they'll have to bring her, sign the waiver, etc, they don't usually follow through.

        I am also amazed at how parents will ask if I will give their darlings lessons. Um, no. I'm an amateur. Then I have to explain that. And that we have a trainer at our barn who gives lessons. Then I give her number.
        A proud friend of bar.ka.

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        • #44
          Meh, I don't *hate* it.

          The person volunteering my horse and services is a little annoying. But I see why they did what they did. I also benefitted from that as a kid. And I think I need to be an ambassador for our very elite, specialized sport. Members of "the horsey set" don't have the best reputation for sharing what we have been fortunate enough to have been given, however we acquired it.

          The "I rented a horse once" rider usually doesn't actually want to get on mine when they meet him up close and personal on the ground. He's rideable-- I make damned sure of that and because he is a 'finished horse' I think he should be able to pack someone around. People made horses like that so I could learn, so I think I ought to pay it forward if I can. To all the people who think they can't possibly lead someone around on their broke horse or pony safely. Really?

          My horse is also 1,300# of personality that the saddled rental horse is not. Standing next to him, or the part where we free lunge him and I attempt to teach them how to send him away or come to them-- steel shod hooves, snorting, rolling and all-- usually sets the would-be rider back on his heels a bit. They watch me control him, but they aren't sure they can do the same. I think it's good for non-horse people to see horses in all their free-willed glory, and a person manage that if they have not seen that before. It's just truth in advertising.

          I do take the time to explain the difference between this horse and the type they rode once for an hour. I also help them find a good lesson barn if they want to do more. I warn them that learning to ride is like ballet-- plan on spending lots of time (and money) before it starts to feel as easy and as smooth as it looks. We all just have to pay our dues.

          Usually it works out for all because the new rider walked away with at least something-- a chance to be around a horse, a decision *not* to ride that they made, more information about how to get what they want and an experience with a horse person who didn't make them feel snubbed or incompetent.
          The armchair saddler
          Politically Pro-Cat

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          • #45
            I'm generally not offended at people asking me directly about coming out to "see" the horses. Since I board at a small barn that also offers guided trail rides to the public, it's not like I'm used to a quiet, private barn anyway.

            My horse is a gentle soul and basically an attention whore, so if there are trail ride guests wandering around the barn just wanting to pet a horse, I don't have a problem with letting them pet mine. It's a good opportunity, especially if they have kids, to teach them a little about how to approach and pet a horse, where to stand, where to NOT put fingers and hands, etc.

            Having friends or family members "invite" themselves can also a good way to help the BO's business. . .sure, they can come out and see the horses! So they want to ride? They can sign up for a trail ride or use the barn's pony ride service for the kids while they're visiting.

            In the past, I have had friends and co-workers who wanted to come ride. . .they paid the BO for a trail ride and signed the release forms like any other customer, but I was the trail guide. The BO didn't mind at all, because she got the money without having to send a staff member out as a guide.

            However, I do start to get irritated when people think that the fact I own a horse means I'd be more than happy to schedule my entire life around their child's nap time and just let them come out to the barn for "pony" rides around the arena on my own horse.

            There have been a few occasions where my parents "volunteered" rides on my horse to their childed neighbors or grandchilded friends without checking with me first. Or, people I knew way back in high school (who were "too cool" to talk to me back then) get in touch with me out of the blue through Facebook about bringing their kids to ride my horse.

            Of course, I am happy to invite them out and let them know about the trail rides and pony rides offered at the barn. But, I guess it's not the "free ride" they were expecting, because none of them have ever followed up.

            Oh well.
            Please copy and paste this to your signature if you know someone, or have been affected by someone who needs a smack upside the head. Lets raise awareness.

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