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  • New to barefoot

    My OTTB threw a shoe tonight-- the third one in 6 or 7 weeks. Prior to this, he hadn't thrown a shoe in the almost-two years I've had him. While he seems to have pretty good feet, he's been at a new barn for the past few months where he is out on grass almost 24/7, and we have had a rather wet spring/summer, which I think is contributing to the shoe issue.

    Currently he has plain shoes in front only. For a TB, his feet are pretty good; his barefoot hind hooves are lovely, no chips or cracks. I also have him on Omega Horseshine, which is supposed to be good for hooves as well.

    I was planning on trying to transition him to barefoot this fall for the first time, but after throwing yet another shoe, I think I'm going to do it NOW rather than wait, if for no other reason than to give the now-craggy nail holes in front time to grow out.

    My only concern is, will I have ANY hope of doing anything but light riding for the rest of the summer? Is there anyone else out there with a barefoot OTTB who's doing any sort of (light) competition? I have plans to go to a couple of dressage schooling shows, "fun" shows, and a hunter pace or two this season.

    I know I won't REALLY know until we see how my guy does barefoot, so I guess I'm just looking for some reassurance that there are other barefoot OTTB's out there who aren't just pasture puffs. Anyone?
    *friend of bar.ka

    "Evidently, I am an unrepentant b*tch, possible trouble maker, and all around super villian"

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    I don't understand the whole "transition to barefoot" thing. While I've never owned a TB, I've never had a horse that was sore after pulling shoes. I just pulled 'em and kept riding. Sometimes the hoof wall wasn't tough enough and chipped too much/wore down too quickly to remain barefoot, but not sore. I figure if a horse is sore going from kegs (and no pads) to barefoot then the farrier did something wrong. But then I think most TBs, QHs and H/Js are trimmed too short anyway- I bugs me to see a 3" or so toe on any horse.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by cnvh View Post
      My only concern is, will I have ANY hope of doing anything but light riding for the rest of the summer? Is there anyone else out there with a barefoot OTTB who's doing any sort of (light) competition? I have plans to go to a couple of dressage schooling shows, "fun" shows, and a hunter pace or two this season.
      No ma'am, without hoof boots for riding during the transition time, you're looking at some high expectations for his newly barefoot hoofies to fill.
      I highly suggest you do some research so that you are well prepared. Education and preparedness are the key to success... oh and learning about nutrition, environment, balance and conditioning.
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        #4
        Well, Horsie's day-to-day surroundings are pretty mild-- grass pasture, nice sand footing in the indoor, so-so stone dust in the outdoor, no real rocky terrain in the out-of-arena areas we usually go. There's a paved driveway we have to take to get to the arenas, that's it. (Unlike our last barn, which had miles of gorgeous-- but extremely rocky-- mountain trails.) I jump a little-- max 2'6"-- but we usually just W/T/C, or meander around the property through the fields.

        I'm fairly confident that he will be fine barefoot, at least at home... I'm just wondering if I may need to consider boots if we go somewhere less forgiving, or if boots are even an option for things like hunter paces-- do any brands stay on well for things like that?
        *friend of bar.ka

        "Evidently, I am an unrepentant b*tch, possible trouble maker, and all around super villian"

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        • #5
          I'm more with shakeytails on this. The only thing I would worry about would be the hunter pace, but thats just because I have no idea what kind of footing you'd be on. IME, most horses do just fine going to barefoot unless you a.) work the snot out of them the first week or two, or b.) your farrier gets really aggressive with trimming their feet.

          I did have a problem with one of my horses, but that was because the farrier got too aggressive trimming the heels on his club foot.

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          • #6
            I'm riding/competing all 3 of my ottb's barefoot. Two of them are schooling second level dressage, and we show recognized. My gelding has been trail ridden all over creation barefoot, including rocky creek beds and paved roads. Just cause a horse is a tb doesn't mean it has to have bad feet!!

            Some horses transition easily with no problems and can be ridden right away, others not so much. It's individual, and it also depends on the quality of job the farrier does. If you pull the shoes, don't take off tons of sole at the same time. Pull the shoes, let him get used to that, then start doing a little trimming. If your horse is tender at first, you could try some hoof boots for him, or there are all different products you can put on the sole to toughen/strengthen or desensitize. Or you can be patient and give him time. If you do a search, there is a TON of info (and heated debate) about barefoot horses. In my experience, the biggest different between a horse being sound or not barefoot is the trim job itself, rather than anything genetic about the horse's feet. A bad trim will make any horse lame, and a good trim will help restore a horse to soundness.

            As far as boots for a trail or hunter pace... I own a pair of Old Macs and a pair of Boa boots... and both stay on just fine. I haven't put enough mileage on either pair to even tell you which is better, they've only been used temporarily, but the Boa boots are easier to put on. Either pair of boots stays on at all gaits during turn out or riding.
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            • #7
              My horse is a TB, He was bare foot until he got navicular, he is bare foot in the hind and he has really healthy feet, just not the bone on the inside.

              If he didn't have navicular, he would be bare foot!

              I would just take it easy the first week or two, then I think you should be fine!

              The hunter pace tho I would be concerned, not knowing what the footing is like, hard, muddy/slippery just be careful, maybe go check out the area a day or two before and see what its like and go from there.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Tobias View Post

                If he didn't have navicular, he would be bare foot!
                why?

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                • #9
                  I've found that bare feet have better traction than plain-shod (ie shoes don't have studs or borium) on many surfaces, like asphalt, mud, grass. My older mare has hunter paced several times a year and has been barefoot for four years. I had another mare, though, who was barefoot for a while but never seemed to toughen up to hard surfaces enough so I just put her back in shoes instead. I do think you should make sure you build up to the distance and terrain you are planning to do (say seven miles trot/canter on hills/dirt/roads whatever the course will be like). I wouldn't take a recently barefoot horse, work him only in the ring or for 2 mile hacks, and then go do a hunter pace, because I wouldn't be sure how he would do with that distance and amount of impact. He might be able to do it in terms of muscle and heart, but his feet might end up sore - or not. Better to know before you go.

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                  • #10
                    You shoe a horse for protection, traction, or therapudic change in way of going.

                    Pull the shoes, have the horse properly trimmed to anatomical correctness and then work the horse. If the horse stays sound for your work then God Bless You. If the horse gets sore footed either re-think your work or put the shoes back on.

                    The horse, not somebody's theory of the horse's foot, will give you your answer.

                    G.
                    Mangalarga Marchador: Uma Raça, Uma Paixão

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                      #11
                      Our first Hunter Pace isn't until the end of September, so I have lots of time to see how he adjusts, and/or use boots, or re-shoe him by then, which will have given the craggy nail holes time to grow (almost) out. I was hoping to take him to a fun show next weekend, was going to do a dressage test, a low eq O/F, and a pole-bending class; if he seems OK barefoot I may do the dressage test. (I think I'll head over to the show grounds this weekend and see what the footing is like.)

                      Thank you all for your input; I know there have been a ton of barefoot threads on here, but I haven't had time to search them yet. I was planning on trying him barefoot over the winter, but I hadn't planned on doing it quite this soon, so now I'm scrambling for info.
                      *friend of bar.ka

                      "Evidently, I am an unrepentant b*tch, possible trouble maker, and all around super villian"

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Guilherme View Post
                        The horse, not somebody's theory of the horse's foot, will give you your answer.
                        Thank you!

                        I wish more people would listen to that.
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