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  • #61
    Condolences and prayers to you and your family...

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Matsjo's Owner View Post
      This is not a situation of a rich kid who bought a horse, then killed him for insurance money.
      Since that is aimed directly at me, I will state clearly, once and for all, YOU WERE NEVER ACCUSED OF INSURANCE FRAUD. I would appreciate you dropping the false accusation.

      I will repost what I wrote previously, something you obviously missed reading in your grief:

      Originally posted by HighFlyinBey++ View Post
      I posted the link to the forensic weather site so that the owner of the dead horses could back up the claim of lightning in the event the insurance company had a problem accepting the cause of death. No insurance, no corporate disbelief, no need for the forensic weather site. {<= i.e. NO BIG DEAL}

      {see quoted post for full details including links to posts that show why we thought the story wasn't on the up and up}

      I am sorry it's a true story because that means the horses are really and sincerely dead and that sucks. I'm sorry for your loss.
      Nobody ever thought you killed your horse for money. Nobody wrote ill of you, your family or your horse [except for AR who went shark jumping]. The very worst we thought is that neither you nor your horse ever existed and that the whole story was made up by yet another bored or disturbed person looking for attention.

      Obviously that wasn't the case: dressageluv is NOT a nutter and the story she told--albeit poorly--was sadly true.

      Your horse sounded pretty cool. It was very kind and generous of Murk's owner to fly you up there and I'm glad you were able to be with him at the end.
      Last edited by HighFlyinBey++; Jul. 22, 2010, 05:44 PM. Reason: Corrected detail
      I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right
      Violence doesn't end violence. It extends it. Break the cycle.

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      • #63
        This was the accusation Stac..

        Originally posted by AnotherRound View Post
        Ooh! Nobody said a word about anything "wrong" being done, just alot "wrong" about the original post and your comments!! So, now that you brought it up, what do you think was done wrong? A bit hot off the mark, eh? There was no lighting, and no earthquake, but a horse died (or two) with apparently big insurance coverages, and someone comes to a big, public, BB to announce the magical connection between a non-exitant lighting strike and a non-existant (in PA) earthquake and the horse's dath, and now YOU are talking insurance money!! Veeerrrry interesting!!! What do you want to bet there will soon be a collection attempt on the said fresian's insurance policy!!

        Too bad you announced it on a Bullitin Board where thinking horsemen know that what you describe isn't kosher.

        And, by the way, speculation is not libel. If you were a poster or reader on this board, you would know what "a ditch and a truck" meant.

        And, if you were going to post a story with sketchy details, you would know not to do it on COTH.
        Makes you wonder doesnt it...

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        • #64
          Oh my gosh Murk let it go, (everyone else here has) your friend is grieving.

          To the owner, I am sorry for your loss of what seemed to be an amazing horse.

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          • #65
            I think she ment that in general, not to be takin by you Flyinhigh .
            I came here to clear up things said , with misinformation, im sure you all understand that, I am new and wasnt aware and am sickened by the fact that people actually come here and tell tall tales of woe , it is like the boy who cried wolf , i understand why some of you jumped all over me , as I hope you understand why i didnt for the slightest have an idea of where you were coming from , ditches and trucks , and no lightning and my miss spelled words being of any meaning during such a time. And my in return jumped all over some of you . I never lied , i told what I new at that moment, and it was the right information. You all see she adored her Matsjo , alot of us did, he touched alot of hearts . So story over , hoof beats in heaven , a drying tear.

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            • #66
              Ah, I get it Murkury. I thought she was referring to one of your first posts quoting me about the insurance link. All's cool

              I am sorry y'all got caught up in the distrust. You're absolutely right that it's the boy who cried wolf, over and over and over. We really do try to give newbies the benefit of the doubt (well, most of us anyway) but I hope you understand why I questioned things.

              Peace out.
              I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right
              Violence doesn't end violence. It extends it. Break the cycle.

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              • #67
                I did not jump the shark - the original post was 'murky' enough until merkuryrising showed up and lashed out at everyone everywhere and started making accusations and assumptions about what people were saying. She was threatening legal action, discussing insurance issues, claiming libel and I addressed her behaviour - outrageous, out of line and abusive. When she PM'd me with further abuse and diatribe, I responded on the thread. I thought I was extremely restrained, but I took care to end my comments to her with this, addressed to her:

                Quote:
                Seriously, though, it may well be that my speculations troubled you and for that I am sorry. I was commenting on what your motivations could possibly be by joining up to post on this discussion and getting all legal and defensive about a bulletin board discussion. No libel here, just people trying to sort out facts from possibly third and fourth hand information. Hope the information here has clarified for you how the earthquake couldn't have been involved. Certainly lightning strike is an awful thing to have happen to horses, though. Hope you can help your friend. Its a sad sad day when one's horses die, and you obviously care. Good luck!
                Nobody knew if Murky was the owner, the OP or a freak looking for attention. I addressed my speculations and defenses to her. I had no idea if there really was a horse, an owner, a friend, or if it was all a Murk. PM me with threats and I am not a pleasant person.

                Having found out that there is a real owner, real horse, real friend and that Murky apparently was kind to the real owner, I am saddened by the event and the loss of a horse. I did say that in my posts, but please dont' villify me because I called a fruitbat a fruitbat when nobody knew what was real and what was made up.

                Again, to the owner of the horse, I am sorry for the horse's death, and for your trauma and to the end of a struggle which had so many hopes and dreams and high points. I am the first person to help a horse owner in need, and can see the need sometimes even before they can, and help until the need is done. And this is the only time I will blow my own horn. My actions speak for me with those whome I know or have to do. Hopefully Murky has learned a lesson about how to present herself to strangers, who she may very well run into in real life and one day meet and need assistance from.

                I know I am not the only one insulted by her, and confused and skeptical by the original post.

                To the owner: I hope this kind of thing never happens again to the poor horse's owner, it is a terrible, horrid event. I hope all your stars line up for you, for your own health and for one day, a new wonderful horse. I suspect they will - I think there is another horse waiting for the right time to bless you in your life, and his coming will be healing to you. All our horses are, and they all come at the right time in our lives. That is my hope and my prayer. __________________
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Murkuryrising View Post
                  I think she ment that in general, not to be takin by you Flyinhigh .
                  I came here to clear up things said , with misinformation, im sure you all understand that, I am new and wasnt aware and am sickened by the fact that people actually come here and tell tall tales of woe , it is like the boy who cried wolf , i understand why some of you jumped all over me , as I hope you understand why i didnt for the slightest have an idea of where you were coming from , ditches and trucks , and no lightning and my miss spelled words being of any meaning during such a time. And my in return jumped all over some of you . I never lied , i told what I new at that moment, and it was the right information. You all see she adored her Matsjo , alot of us did, he touched alot of hearts . So story over , hoof beats in heaven , a drying tear.
                  Did you forget to take your blue pill this morning? Or maybe it was the pink one...which ever it was, there has been no need for this to go on for days and any sympathy I may have had for you is long gone after seeing you repeatedly come on here and alternate between attack mode and 'poor me' mode (13 times to be exact).

                  I am sorry for the loss of the horse owner - despite cooljenns earlier assertion that only some posters are sorry for the loss of the horse.

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                  • #69
                    I've watched this thread from the very first post, and I'm very glad that we now know exactly what happened, and perhaps now the COTH community can come together and express sincere sympathy for a tragic loss of a very special horse and leave all the other garbage at the curb.

                    Mat's owner, I'm very sorry for your loss. I hope the happy memories you have will help push the pain away.
                    "My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world." ~ Jack Layton

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                    • #70
                      So sorry for your loss and I'm glad you were able to be there with him at the end.
                      You jump in the saddle,
                      Hold onto the bridle!
                      Jump in the line!
                      ...Belefonte

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                      • #71
                        To HighFlyinBey++

                        My post was not directed at you, or anyone in particular. It was a general statement to clear up what was already posted... there was a comment made that he was 'just another big buck horse and the owner would soon be cashing on said Friesian's insurance plan...' That post isn't here anymore.

                        I don't know who posted it, and I don't really give a shit. I said what I had to & what's done is done. This thread is why I don't spend times on forums, one never can tell the tone intended of a typed message. The only reason I signed up was to post a message to end speculation about my situation.

                        I loved my horse, and now he is gone. I appreciate my friends trying to help me by posting to find out any news on their own.

                        I won't be reading anymore of this thread, I'm tired of being reminded of the bad.

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                        • #72
                          who said anything about your being a rich brat who killed their horse off for the insurance? I've read all this thread and never saw that.......

                          Sorry the horse is gone, pity it wasn't insured if it was that special and valuable.
                          Ellipses users clique ...
                          TGFPT,HYOOTGP

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                          • #73
                            MATSJO I am very sorry for your loss.

                            RIP Matsjo.



                            This thread expresses a very sad state of affairs. Some of the posts here are rather heartless and petty. Let's just give it a rest.

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                            • #74
                              Matsjo - I am very sorry for your loss, especially when it's a life cut short. I enjoyed reading the Vogue story especially, what a good boy he was!
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                              • #75
                                There have been enough misunderstandings, confusion and drama already for this one short thread, so we're going to do everyone a favor and close it now with our condolences before it flares back up.

                                Thanks,
                                Mod 1

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