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Update to Forum Rules: Criminal Allegations

In our continuing effort to provide an avenue for individuals to voice their opinions and experiences, we have recently reviewed and updated our forum policies. Generally, we have allowed users to share their positive or negative experiences with or opinions of companies, products, trainers, etc. within the industry, and that is not changing.

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Forum rules and no-advertising policy

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Cubbing/Trail Riding Vest

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  • Cubbing/Trail Riding Vest

    I would love to hear what others wear during the dog days when trail riding/legging up for cubbing. I need a vest--lightweight, made for heat and with zippered pockets for my cell phone and car keys--and I cannot find anything suitable. I have tried an armband for my phone and one of the belt packs that runners use but wasn't happy. I don't want to use a saddle bag in case I part company with my trusty steed.
    Any suggestions that come in subdued colors would be very much appreciated.

  • #2
    How 'bout a Columbia PFG Tamiami shirt? It's a fishing shirt that is perfect for hot weather/UV protection, and it has two pockets large enough for phone, keys, etc. Comes in long and short sleeves. I love mine.
    Shop and read reviews about COLUMBIA Women's Tamiami™ II Shirt at West Marine. Get free shipping on all orders to any West Marine Store near you today.
    “When you have a Thoroughbred and a mare and she’s got big ears and big eyes, you’re set and that’s sealed.” Jimmy Wofford


    • Original Poster

      Pierogi--are you able to fit a large cell phone on the pockets? I love my fishing shirts for riding but none can hold a larger phone comfortably.


      • #4
        Originally posted by Merry Fox View Post
        Pierogi--are you able to fit a large cell phone on the pockets? I love my fishing shirts for riding but none can hold a larger phone comfortably.
        I have the iPhone 6 (not plus), and it fits just fine. Seems to me that a larger phone would fit, though I can't speak to how comfortable it would be.
        “When you have a Thoroughbred and a mare and she’s got big ears and big eyes, you’re set and that’s sealed.” Jimmy Wofford


        • #5
          Places like Cabela's and LL Bean often have great vests with lots of pockets in their hunting/fishing lines. And Duluth Trading company makes a gardener's vests with tons of pockets.


          • #6
            I love this jacket from LL Bean. I have several and cut the sleeves off for summer use and kept two intact for the fall. It also comes in a lined version for colder weather. They have two zip pockets perfect for my phone and two larger pockets for treats and keys, a total of 6 pockets. The breast pockets are good for a smaller phone or cash but not much else.


            • #7
              LL Bean ~ several choices ~ that have worked nicely in the barn setting for me.
              Zu Zu Bailey " IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE ! "


              • #8
                I use a travel vest by the Magellan Company and have done for years, for trailriding, endurance and competitive trail (link below if I'm doing the new link process right). It's very light, has a bunch of pockets (some outside, some inside) that fit my iPhone 6, treats, snacks, paperwork, truck keys and more. Double zipper so you can unzip from bottom which is good sometimes for the riding position. It's so light it can be washed and will dry out in very little time. Comfortable over a tee or polo in hot weather and under a sweatshirt or jacket in the winter. If the link doesn't work, go to Magellan.com and search "travel vest." My only issue is that I wish it came in a bright color to wear in deer hunting season!
                Magellan’s Travel Vest - Shop Magellan's, your source for travel clothing, RFID bags, luggage, packing organizers and in-flight & travel accessories.
                It's just grass and water till it hits the ground.


                • #9
                  Mesh; http://www.wildhareshootinggear.com/...est-Black.aspx


                  Holster; https://www.ldwest.com/
                  Last edited by Equibrit; Feb. 27, 2018, 08:57 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Heads up that this thread was bumped by a now-deleted spam post.


                    • #11
                      Magellan catalog (is it still around?) had a lightweight travel vest with tons of pockets. I'd look there. I always leave my Keyes in my truck bed somewhere and tell someone in case I have to be airlifted out or something. Makes it easyer for those trying to get your rig back for you. I know this from having to try to get Keyes from someone already being taken to hospital.


                      • #12
                        I know this is old but it is still good information to have around.

                        I use a hip holster on my calf or thigh for my cell phone. Mine is black so it blends with my tall boot. It is also an easy place to grab in emergencies or to take pictures.

                        I never carry my keys. I have a good hiding place back at the truck and let the person I am with know where it is. DH knows where I hide it. This way if necessary the other person can get in the truck/trailer if we get separated or I get knocked out. I would hate to be at the hospital with the set of keys and my other rider stuck. Bonus is that I can't accidentally lose the keys somewhere on the 12 mile trail ride/fox hunt. At least one of the hunt members I regularly ride with know where I hide the key.

                        I have my spare tire on the outside of the trailer with a cover. I put the keys in the spare tire cover and rezip it. I figure nobody would look there. The hay manger bags, in the dressing room or on top of one of the wheels seems too obvious.
                        Oh, well, clearly you're not thoroughly indoctrinated to COTH yet, because finger pointing and drawing conclusions are the cornerstones of this great online community. (Tidy Rabbit)


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                          Also know this is old but in case anyone needs a recommendation on a good riding storage belt, I highly recommend this:
                          Sits smooth and flush with your waistband or hips, not bulky, really minimizes bounce. I've been very happy with mine for a variety of uses- running, riding, and biking.
                          Runners, Nordic skiers, and even travelers will appreciate the soft PULSE BELT with minimalist style. It discreetly secures your personal items and hydration flasks, letting you concentrate on your race, workout or sightseeing free of distraction.


                          • Original Poster

                            Closing Time--I wish I had found that running belt last year! I started this thread because I needed to carry a few essential items on the trail in the hot, hot summer months. I did end up going with an LL Bean vest that is great in the spring and fall but still too warm for summer. I never considered the runners belt. As long it is snug and doesn't bounce around I bet it will be perfect. I might also fit under a hunt coat quite nicely too.