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  • Canterbury will be 'returned to former glory'

    This seems like it might be a cheerful bit of good news for you folks that are in the Warrenton area

    "...the property will be reopened for foxhunting for the first time in more than 30 years."

    http://www.timescommunity.com/site/t...d=506066&rfi=6

    Canterbury will be 'returned to former glory'
    By John Toler
    10/04/2005

    After years on the market, Canterbury Farm, a 373-acre country estate on the Springs Road, has been sold.

    According to Joe Allen Jr., president of Allen Real Estate Company Limited, the property was purchased by Jack and Wendy Andrews of Middleburg.


    Allen Real Estate was both the listing and selling agent, and the selling price for Canterbury -- owned since 1971 by Michael and Ann Susik -- was $7.5 million.

    The original asking price was $9.5 million, but the property was reduced to $7.5 million earlier this year.

    Although Canterbury was on the market for a long time, the Andrews' decision to purchase the estate was made very quickly.


    "We had just returned home on a Saturday from Ireland, where we had attended a wedding," said Wendy Andrews. "We saw a photo of Canterbury in a newspaper, and we liked what we saw and called Joe Allen on Monday morning."

    Less than two weeks later, on Sept. 30, the deal was closed.

    According to Wendy Andrews, the land will be put into a conservation easement. Extensive restoration work is planned for the brick main house -- built by Col. Albert E. Pierce between 1932-36 for $7 million -- as well as the outbuildings, fences and stone walls.

    "We are going to bring Canterbury back to its former glory," said Wendy Andrews.

    In addition, the property will be reopened for foxhunting for the first time in more than 30 years.

    "We look forward to having hunt meets at Canterbury," remarked Wendy Andrews, who has foxhunted in her native Ireland. "And we plan to use the English pub in the Hunt Room," for the hunt meets, an old-time Canterbury tradition.

    After the restoration is complete, the couple will decide whether to make Canterbury their home, or to sell it.

    "We really love our place on Sam Fred Road in Middleburg," she added. "We may, or may not, move to Canterbury."

    Described in an Allen Real Estate's sales brochure as "one of the most beautiful Georgian masterpieces in America," the three-story main house at Canterbury has 12 bedrooms (including eight master suites with fireplaces), 11 full bathrooms and five half-bathrooms.

    Unique features include the three-story circular flying staircase, built of white Carrara marble; the library or "Weather Room," which is connected to a weather vane on the roof; and the Hunt Room in the basement, designed in the style of the great hall of an ancient Tudor castle.

    Outside are numerous agricultural outbuildings related to the previous owner's herd of Santa Gertrudis cattle. There is also a swimming pool with cabana, tennis courts and a tenant house. The property has 3,500 feet of river frontage on the Rappahannock.
  • Original Poster

    #2
    This seems like it might be a cheerful bit of good news for you folks that are in the Warrenton area

    "...the property will be reopened for foxhunting for the first time in more than 30 years."

    http://www.timescommunity.com/site/t...d=506066&rfi=6

    Canterbury will be 'returned to former glory'
    By John Toler
    10/04/2005

    After years on the market, Canterbury Farm, a 373-acre country estate on the Springs Road, has been sold.

    According to Joe Allen Jr., president of Allen Real Estate Company Limited, the property was purchased by Jack and Wendy Andrews of Middleburg.


    Allen Real Estate was both the listing and selling agent, and the selling price for Canterbury -- owned since 1971 by Michael and Ann Susik -- was $7.5 million.

    The original asking price was $9.5 million, but the property was reduced to $7.5 million earlier this year.

    Although Canterbury was on the market for a long time, the Andrews' decision to purchase the estate was made very quickly.


    "We had just returned home on a Saturday from Ireland, where we had attended a wedding," said Wendy Andrews. "We saw a photo of Canterbury in a newspaper, and we liked what we saw and called Joe Allen on Monday morning."

    Less than two weeks later, on Sept. 30, the deal was closed.

    According to Wendy Andrews, the land will be put into a conservation easement. Extensive restoration work is planned for the brick main house -- built by Col. Albert E. Pierce between 1932-36 for $7 million -- as well as the outbuildings, fences and stone walls.

    "We are going to bring Canterbury back to its former glory," said Wendy Andrews.

    In addition, the property will be reopened for foxhunting for the first time in more than 30 years.

    "We look forward to having hunt meets at Canterbury," remarked Wendy Andrews, who has foxhunted in her native Ireland. "And we plan to use the English pub in the Hunt Room," for the hunt meets, an old-time Canterbury tradition.

    After the restoration is complete, the couple will decide whether to make Canterbury their home, or to sell it.

    "We really love our place on Sam Fred Road in Middleburg," she added. "We may, or may not, move to Canterbury."

    Described in an Allen Real Estate's sales brochure as "one of the most beautiful Georgian masterpieces in America," the three-story main house at Canterbury has 12 bedrooms (including eight master suites with fireplaces), 11 full bathrooms and five half-bathrooms.

    Unique features include the three-story circular flying staircase, built of white Carrara marble; the library or "Weather Room," which is connected to a weather vane on the roof; and the Hunt Room in the basement, designed in the style of the great hall of an ancient Tudor castle.

    Outside are numerous agricultural outbuildings related to the previous owner's herd of Santa Gertrudis cattle. There is also a swimming pool with cabana, tennis courts and a tenant house. The property has 3,500 feet of river frontage on the Rappahannock.

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    • #3
      In whose territory does Canterbury fall? It sounds wonderful!
      ~~Liz Williams, Snickersville Hounds~~

      "I'll thank the Lord the life I've led Was always near a Thoroughbred"
      -Paul Mellon

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      • #4
        Canterbury is in Warrenton Hunt Territory.

        Jack is well-known around here as one of THE major developers of Northern Va. He buys and flips property as well. They have 2 properties in Middleburg for sale right now, one a farm also on Sam Fred Rd. for $1.6 mil., and the other, 45 acres, on Mountville Rd. for $1.5 mil.
        Cherry Blossom Farm - Show & Field Hunters, Side Saddles

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          #5
          The article quotes the new owner, Wendy Andrews, as saying the land (how much of it? all of it? I wonder) will be put under conservation easement, so hopefully they really will follow through with that and do it.

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          • #6
            Oh, yes, he'll do that for some of the larger properties, so he gets the tax write-off. That's what he did for the farm that is now for sale on Sam Fred Rd. We tried to buy it, then he said no, put it in easement, and raised the price $300k.
            Cherry Blossom Farm - Show & Field Hunters, Side Saddles

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            • #7
              <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BarnField:
              "We had just returned home on a Saturday from Ireland, where we had attended a wedding," said Wendy Andrews. "We saw a photo of Canterbury in a newspaper, and we liked what we saw and called Joe Allen on Monday morning." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

              Ah, now that is the life: - "darling, look at that very nice home in the paper .. it would be a cute place to store all the silver we've been accumulating"

              Canterbury is a wonderful estate to be sure.

              Originally built for a Chicago businessman, Col Albert E. Pierce, (who also was joint-master and huntsman of the Culpeper Hunt) it was designed by Walcott & Work and landscaped by the preeminent Vitale & Geiffert. A photo of the facade of the manor house as taken by Gottscho-Schleisner, 1935

              The listing for Canterbury from the Allen web site

              Wonderful to hear of it being preserved and put back into its rightful use as a fox-hunting estate Even if they flip the property out later, kudos to the Andrews for protecting it for now and giving access to the local hunt!

              Additionally, it should not go without mention that a lot of upper bracket fox hunting estates have sold in the last month which have otherwise languished on the market.

              In addition to Canterbury, was a hunt estate that has been for sale since about 1999 – The Plains,VA-based "Heathfield" and the exceptionally pricey (if not the highest priced residence to every sell in the M’burg area) Bolivar which was being co-listed by Thomas & Talbot and Frank Hardy Ltd. The $16.75 million price tag - which was a reduction - for 327 acres in the Middleburg Hunt is amazing, the Frank Hardy agents sold it as I understand.

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              • #8
                Bolinvar is the most gorgeous place I have ever seen! I'd gladly take the guest house never mind everything else! I can't get over the tack room it's bigger and nicer then my kitchen and living room (whole house!) combined. Did you notice that there are blanket closets with individual heat lamps! My goodness!
                Grab mane and kick on!

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                • #9
                  Does it abut other territory? 300 odd acres is really not enough land to hunt. Bolivar is to *die* for, btw.

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                  • #10
                    For those who missed out on buying Bolinvar (36987 Mountainville Rd; Leithtown, VA) you are in luck as yet another massive hunt estate has come on to the market which is situated very close to it

                    Huntland (also of Leithtown, VA) - is listed for "just" $18.8 million.

                    Huntland is a very important historical home situated on 550 acres in the beautiful Virginia countryside minutes from Middleburg. Huntland, built in 1837 with major additions added in 1911, has been the weekend retreat for senators, congressmen, diplomats and Presidents. Presidents Johnson & Kennedy visited Huntland on numerous occassions. Courtyard Kennel & stables. 5 sep. houses, 2 apartments.

                    The Kennel and main Stable block ('U' shape design) are magnificent.

                    It would be a true shame if this was sliced up and/or the new owners possess little interesting in huting.

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                    • #11
                      It is fabulously in the middle of our (Warrenton's) territory. Can't WAIT!!!!

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                      • #12
                        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Glimmerglass:
                        For those who missed out on buying Bolinvar (36987 Mountainville Rd; Leithtown, VA) you are in luck as yet another massive hunt estate has come on to the market which is situated very close to it

                        Huntland (also of Leithtown, VA) - is listed for "just" $18.8 million.
                        </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                        Just wanted to add that friends of ours (and members of M'burg) rent Huntlands at the moment. We had our closing meet hunt breakfast there last year, and it really is lovely. But also EXPENSIVE! They said it cost them $4,500 per month during the winter just in HEATING bills for the house. Ouch! Can you imagine what it will be if they are calling for heating prices to rise so significantly this year?
                        Cherry Blossom Farm - Show & Field Hunters, Side Saddles

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                        • #13
                          <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SidesaddleRider:
                          Just wanted to add that friends of ours (and members of M'burg) rent Huntlands at the moment. We had our closing meet hunt breakfast there last year, and it really is lovely. But also EXPENSIVE! They said it cost them $4,500 per month during the winter just in HEATING bills for the house. Ouch! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                          I can't even imagine what the cost of leasing that estate would be The estate is significant & historical enough - plus the market still white hot - that I'm sure it will be snapped up faster then you might think a 'white elephant' would be, heating bills and all.

                          For some relative perspective: This Bedford, NY estate on 34 acres with a similar asking price has an existing tax bill of $116,648 a year. Plus of course the expenses for heating, maintenance, and the like.

                          By comparison, my guess is Huntlands incurrs a annual property tax well under $20,000 a year. Canterbury's taxes were just under $13,000 per published record ...

                          At the end of the day I'd rather look out over 550 glorious acres, hear the cry of the hounds, and live in a lovely but drafty old manse as opposed to getting fleeced with over the top property taxes.

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                          • #14
                            It is so nice to hear hunt country being saved. Canterbury is incredible. More and more people need to do this. Like that will happen, one can hope tho.

                            Don't taxes increase with the sale of the property? Not being savvy to VA. taxes, most homes increase. Has to do with how much the place sold for.

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                            • #15
                              <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by radio talk:
                              Don't taxes increase with the sale of the property? Not being savvy to VA. taxes, most homes increase. Has to do with how much the place sold for. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                              Of course reassessments transpire traditionally after a large sale. However from what I've been privy to seeing taxwise, these multi-million dollar large estate even after they've been resold at hefty $$ still pay exceptionally low taxes due to land in-use benefits and the like. I think that is just fine as lower taxes help ease pressure upon owners from having to explore development.

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                              • #16
                                A bit odd ...

                                The Allen Real Estate web site listed the house as being "SOLD" across the image of the house. Now that banner is gone and the previously listed price is replaced with "Price Upon Request". Are the new owners looking to flip the property out so soon?

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                                • #17
                                  Just thought I'd pass on the news that Huntlands has been sold. Just a month or so on the market, and someone put down $18 million for it! Must be nice.

                                  And FYI, it's 500 acres are NOT in conservation easement.
                                  Cherry Blossom Farm - Show & Field Hunters, Side Saddles

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                                  • #18
                                    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SidesaddleRider:
                                    Just thought I'd pass on the news that Huntlands has been sold. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                    Simply amazing! It is almost a shame it went so fast as AMR just had their media subcontractor put together a nice visual package showcasing the property: Huntland - slide show

                                    I doubt the estate will change under the new owners, with that much money plunked down the person likely wants the privacy and seclusion afforded with the acreage.

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                                    • #19
                                      <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SidesaddleRider:
                                      Just thought I'd pass on the news that Huntlands has been sold. Just a month or so on the market, and someone put down $18 million for it! Must be nice.

                                      And FYI, it's 500 acres are NOT in conservation easement. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                      Wow! Huntlands IS an amazing estate. I ran into Paul & Laura at The Coach Stop one Sunday at breakfast back in July. Paul told me that he was going to try and acquire Huntlands from Roy Ash, owner of Llangolan. Do you know if it was Paul who bought Huntlands? It would be just fantastic if he did, as he would be the kind of person to preserve Huntlands' historic integrity.

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                                      • #20
                                        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bootes:
                                        Wow! Huntlands IS an amazing estate. I ran into Paul & Laura at The Coach Stop one Sunday at breakfast back in July. Paul told me that he was going to try and acquire Huntlands from Roy Ash, owner of Llangolan. Do you know if it was Paul who bought Huntlands? It would be just fantastic if he did, as he would be the kind of person to preserve Huntlands' historic integrity. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                        No, it was not Paul who bought it. Laura told me she had heard that it was someone from the Hamptons who bought it, who after paying like $30 million for a 5 acre place there, thought 500+ acres for $18 million was a bargain! However, Paul and Laura are looking at Jack Andrews' land (45 acres) that he has for sale across from Bolinvar. However, all it is is land partially cleared with stone walls, so it would take quite a while to get a house, barn, and fencing put in. I'm not sure what they are planning on doing, or how long they will be staying at Huntlands past the end of the year.
                                        Cherry Blossom Farm - Show & Field Hunters, Side Saddles

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