• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Hunting in a Wintec saddle?

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Hunting in a Wintec saddle?

    Anyone hunt in a Wintec saddle? I love them. I was wondering if they were o.k. to go hunting in.

    Tx.

  • #2
    We have a draft cross that hunts in a brown Wintec Wide all purpose saddle. It really doesn't look different.

    Comment

    • Original Poster

      #3
      Do you think it would be more slippery in hunt field, is more of what I'm wondering? I know they are fine in the ring but can you do uneven terrain with one.

      Tx.

      Comment


      • #4
        OUr 3 hunters have one each - we have the Wintec 2000 models which have equisuede on the seat and knee area. Partner is a huntsman, so our's get plenty of use! We love them, and there's the extra bonus of not having to worry about them getting wet cos they dry so fast, and they're much easier to clean! Both of us much prefer hunting in them to leather saddles.

        Comment


        • #5
          I was invited to go hunting and used my Wintec 2000. I was sure glad I did as it misted/rained the entire time. My Pessoa would have been ruined. I did not receive any funny looks.

          Comment


          • #6
            I've hunted for years in them. I doubt that anyone notices - I used the tan flat seat jump saddles. Don't notice they are any more or less slippery than a leather saddle - but then I go 2* XC in it too.

            If I'm really worried, I use the spray made for raquet players to give extra grip.

            Much, much easier to look after than leather saddles.

            Comment


            • #7
              I doubt anyone would think twice about it. I love my wintec although I do have a Barnsby for Hunting. I go on hunt trail rides with the Wintec. You never know when you are going to want to take a tour of the swimming hole on horseback.
              -Painted Wings

              Set youself apart from the crowd, ride a paint horse, you're sure to be spotted

              Comment


              • #8
                Ditto Otterhound's post. We started hunting in the Wintec 2000 years ago and the previous models before that. They are actually less slippery IMO than leather. I sold my Stubben and Crosby and outfitted four hunt horses in Wintec saddles. I love the gullett system because the horses change with fitness as the season progesses. They are wonderful to clean off and you don't mind if they get rained on. I actually had to dry one in the house for three days one November because it rained so much while we hunted it was saturated! Wouldn't have wanted to have that situation with a leather saddle. Our huntsman and two whippers-in also own Wintecs.
                "pack in!"

                Comment

                • Original Poster

                  #9
                  Great. Thanks all. I don't really care about how it "looks" just wondering if they were slippery when doing hills or when wet. I used to have a Wintec dressage - loved it.

                  Winecs are a great invention.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    I've about made up my mind to replace (or complement) my Stuebben Wotan with a Wintec and was trying to figure out exactly which of the current models is the right one to get. If it would be tolerated in the hunt field, great, but my main interest is in having a saddle that's easy to care for, fits a variety of horses, and is good for flat work and relatively low-level, occasional jumping.

                    Anyway, I need one of the models that comes in brown and probably one that's offered in 18". My Wotan is a 19"; I hear Wintecs are sized an inch smaller than they really run, but in any case, depending on how high the cantle is/how flat the seat is, I might not require the equivalent of a 19".

                    Any tips? Which one of these Wintecs is the right one? Any opinions on CAIR vs. flocked?

                    Comment

                    • Original Poster

                      #11
                      Wilfred:

                      Supposedly CAIR can make you horse sore in the back, makes a bouncy ride for the rider and can deflate. Few people seem to like CAIR.

                      I was just speaking with a WINTEC dealer and she advised me to get the same size as my current, slightly deep close contact saddle - as for sizing.

                      Wintec Pro 2000 AP seems to be the one the hunting folks get. It's so pretty in brown, too.

                      I'm saving for one.

                      sonoma

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Thanks, sonomacounty, but which are you talking about, the Pro or the 2000? I don't think they're the same. MapleMeadows refers to the 2000, but it looks to me like that model might only come in CAIR.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          I sometimes hunt in my Wintec Pro Jump. It has the most forward flap of all the models which works best for my leg. It has a fairly flat seat.

                          I love it for the rain and like it enough to hunt in it some of the rest of the time, too. This version has equisuede so it's not at all slippery.
                          Equine Ink - My soapbox for equestrian writings & reviews.
                          EquestrianHow2 - Operating instructions for your horse.

                          Comment

                          • Original Poster

                            #14
                            OOps, sorry Wil. Seems you can't be a Pro and 2000 at the same time.

                            Here you go, flocked, not CAIR, Wintec Pro All-Purpose Saddle with Flocked Panels:

                            http://www.doversaddlery.com/product...=MB-15051&qs=1

                            Comment

                            • Original Poster

                              #15
                              At Adams Saddlery right now, you can get it at the price with a gullet kit or fittings thrown in:

                              http://www.adamshorsesupply.com/browse.cfm/4,8620.html

                              Comment


                              • #16
                                You can pick them up on eBay for short $$. I paid $310 for my Wintec Pro Jump and another $10 for another gullet. You just need to be patient.
                                Equine Ink - My soapbox for equestrian writings & reviews.
                                EquestrianHow2 - Operating instructions for your horse.

                                Comment


                                • #17
                                  We have Cair in ours and wouldn't go back to flock. Definitely do NOT make for a bouncy ride! The original Cair panels did have a couple of flaws and there were a few sore backs because of them, but those problems have been well and truly ironed out by now. The also have a lifetime guarantee on the panels, so if one did deflate, it's covered. Wintecs are very common here, with Cair panels, and I've never heard anyone have one deflate. They also provide a much smoother, more even contact with the horse than flock.

                                  Comment


                                  • #18
                                    CAIR and sore backs

                                    My theory on the CAIR panels and sore backs (which I have never had in years of using Wintecs, but many claim they do have). There are four CAIR pockets, one in front and one in back, on each side. There is a place in about the middle of the panel (front to back) where the two pockets meet.

                                    If you have a curvey backed horse, the CAIR pockets will tend to push the air from the ends of the panel toward the middle. The spot where the two pockets join will make a slight bridge, and your horse will never feel it. If you have a very flat-backed horse, or one with very flat muscling, the pockets will distribute evenly, or perhaps the air will move more toward the ends of the panels, and it's possible that there will be a bit of a thickness at the point where the pockets join. Flat backed, flat muscled horses tend to have more sensitive backs, with less fluff and muscle between them and the saddle, so it tends to be a bigger issue. This, of course, can be solved with attention to overall fit and suitable padding.

                                    Some horses really do like the CAIR panels, so I wouldn't chalk that off out of hand. The Wintec people seem to pay attention and keep improving their products, so I wouldn't let history keep you from giving them a try.

                                    JMHO
                                    "One person's cowboy is another person's blooming idiot" -- katarine

                                    Spay and neuter. Please.

                                    Comment


                                    • #19
                                      The most attractive synthetic product out there seems to be Tekna, but I suspect that fitting-through-heating process could be inconvenient to fiddle with.

                                      Comment

                                      • Original Poster

                                        #20
                                        Otterhound or anyone:

                                        So, have the CAIRs have their issues worked out for a long time? Meaning - if I find a used one - how old can it safely be?

                                        OK, I'd try it. I was just repeating back some of what I've heard but since you all do a lot of Wintecs over there, you must know (Monster Pony, too).

                                        Thanks,
                                        sonoma

                                        Comment

                                        Working...
                                        X